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  • simmy17
    SBR Sharp
    • 08-14-12
    • 487

    #1
    Cubs Reds Line
    Last night the red opened -118 favs now up to +104 i really liked the reds even at -118 not im a little scared of the line

    Never mind looks like my book made a mistake going by sbr line history Chicago opened at minus favorites
  • Z-Fly
    SBR Hustler
    • 11-26-13
    • 94

    #2
    Cubs are at home with the better pitcher. It makes since to me that they are the favorites.
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    • robbeduagain
      SBR MVP
      • 08-25-12
      • 1248

      #3
      The better pitcher? Simon is by far the best in this match up. At least this year any way
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      • posey
        SBR MVP
        • 05-23-14
        • 1112

        #4
        Simon isn't/wasn't the better pitcher IMO, he was the one with more or luck and better run support.
        When you look at Simon's stats you see a 5.58 K/9, 2.23 BB/9, 1.12 HR/9, 12.6% HR/FB. You wouldn't expect a guy with those numbers to have an ERA of 3.05, let alone 10-3 W-L. His BABIP is fairly low, his LOB% is very high, FIP, xFIP and SIERA are much higher than his ERA. I expect Simon's ERA to get worse as the season progresses.
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        • farmhouse1
          SBR MVP
          • 02-14-14
          • 4377

          #5
          Samardzija aint nothin special in my opinion...
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          • posey
            SBR MVP
            • 05-23-14
            • 1112

            #6
            I haven't seen him enough to argue against it, but he 'beats' Simon in nearly all relevant statistical categories. And his sabermetric numbers are much closer to his ERA than the sabermetrics of Simon.
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            • bestone109
              SBR Sharp
              • 01-31-14
              • 255

              #7
              I think everyone is forgetting how hot the reds are and hitting well
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              • Fred The Hammer
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-13-13
                • 11581

                #8
                I read today where Smrzutvkdja is 0-5 with a 4.79 in his last 10 starts vs the Reds. They've always hit hard throwers better than guys that can change speeds. Phillips may not play but I still like the Reds. Their pen has been brutal but they did get 8 ip from Leake and Cueto in their last 2 games so atleast they got a little rest. The Reds have kicked the shit out of the Cubs in general in Wrigley.....haven't lost a series there in forever
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                • farmhouse1
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-14-14
                  • 4377

                  #9
                  Yeah but this line just look like a classic cubs line in my opinion... Just one of those games where you cant find any reason to like the cubs yet some how they win... Not saying they win or lose today just saying the line definitely makes me wonder...
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #10
                    Originally posted by farmhouse1
                    Samardzija aint nothin special in my opinion...
                    But he is MUCH better than Simon normally. The wild card here though is that the Reds have always had Shark's number as Fred the Hammer alluded to.
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                    • farmhouse1
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-14-14
                      • 4377

                      #11
                      Cubs 0-4 in simardzija last 4 starts against the reds....
                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                      But he is MUCH better than Simon normally. The wild card here though is that the Reds have always had Shark's number as Fred the Hammer alluded to.
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                      • James Marques
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-04-14
                        • 1605

                        #12
                        Cubs ML and under
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                        • joseph0228
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 06-21-14
                          • 9

                          #13
                          Doesn't matter if the Cubs have the better pitcher, they haven't been able to win all year for him anyway.
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            Originally posted by farmhouse1
                            Cubs 0-4 in simardzija last 4 starts against the reds....
                            Right, goes right to what I said about Reds having his number. Well, the 0-4 is meaningless in itself, but it is the fact that they have hit him hard. I think he's had one Quality Start in his last five tries against them.

                            But if you compare Simardzija vs. Simon vs. the league this year, Shark blows Simon away in every meaningful stat. So it all depends how much you value head-to-head numbers.
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                            • mcdonae101
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-02-14
                              • 3646

                              #15
                              Originally posted by robbeduagain
                              The better pitcher? Simon is by far the best in this match up. At least this year any way
                              Lol, I'd like to know how u come to that conclusion. Likely just looked at record at made this statement
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                              • LT Profits
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-27-06
                                • 90963

                                #16
                                Originally posted by robbeduagain
                                The better pitcher? Simon is by far the best in this match up. At least this year any way
                                Originally posted by mcdonae101

                                Lol, I'd like to know how u come to that conclusion. Likely just looked at record at made this statement
                                Samardzija is by far the better pitcher this year, Posey summarized it perfectly in Post #4.
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                                • Fred The Hammer
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-13-13
                                  • 11581

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by LT Profits
                                  Samardzija is by far the better pitcher this year, Posey summarized it perfectly in Post #4.
                                  Simon is just a spot starter....calm down people. Now if he focused on baseball instead of murdering people (other country...no charges) and rape charges ("Convictions? No.....never convicted")
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                                  • turtlejc
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-18-11
                                    • 3958

                                    #18
                                    I will be at this game

                                    I have simon starting in fantasy so take cubs
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                                    • farmhouse1
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-14-14
                                      • 4377

                                      #19
                                      Okay but damn this reds team has been smashing the ball lately .. Simardzija never gets run support..
                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                      Samardzija is by far the better pitcher this year, Posey summarized it perfectly in Post #4.
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                                      • farmhouse1
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-14-14
                                        • 4377

                                        #20
                                        What does this mean? I have no clue how fantasy baseball works
                                        Originally posted by turtlejc
                                        I will be at this game

                                        I have simon starting in fantasy so take cubs
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                                        • chalk46
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 12-14-13
                                          • 564

                                          #21
                                          Brandon Phillips not in lineup for Cincy
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                                          • robbeduagain
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-25-12
                                            • 1248

                                            #22
                                            He's pitched better lately than those numbers for the year indicate, and people on here and elsewhere have been saying that the regression was inevitable for awhile, but it hasn't happened. He's an ex reliever, he's better with runners on base. Just my opinion based on what I've seen this year. I live in the Cincy area and watch the reds. I didn't just look at the records. I guess we'll find out tonight. Good luck with what ever you choose.
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                                            • robbeduagain
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-25-12
                                              • 1248

                                              #23
                                              And by the way, Shark's month of June has been awful. Well over 5 era with numbers nothing like earlier this year
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                simardzija..all he does is lose and is a good pitcher
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                                                • jay89
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 08-04-13
                                                  • 671

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by chalk46
                                                  Brandon Phillips not in lineup for Cincy
                                                  mesoraco batting cleanup, even better
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                                                  • chalk46
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 12-14-13
                                                    • 564

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jay89
                                                    mesoraco batting cleanup, even better
                                                    Could not agree more lol
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