Will Fed be NADAL's bitch yet again in the semis?

[baskets]

Fed needs to beat Nadal in this spot. Big moment for his career.

[MagicDiceFlow]

Nadal's gonna get waxed this year by Fed....look at the way Fed is picking apart Delpo. He's playing some insane tennis.

[yisman]

lol, Federer has nothing to be ashamed of.

He's not Nadal's "bitch". Nadal owns him on clay, but Nadal owns everyone but Djokovic on clay.

Federer vs. Nadal on other surfaces: edge Federer

[zacharyj53]

lol, Federer has nothing to be ashamed of.

He's not Nadal's "bitch". Nadal owns him on clay, but Nadal owns everyone but Djokovic on clay.

Federer vs. Nadal on other surfaces: edge Federer

This, as it stands Federer is the best of all time.

[baskets]

even Fed knows Rafa owns him. how much of Roger's poop is on Rafa's dick? lots

Fed needs to win to put things more in his favor

[baskets]

Head-to-Head matches

52/2011 ATP The Mubadala World Tennis Championship (UAE)HardRafael NadalRoger Federer6-1 7-5 Bronze2.33-1.59
47/2011 ATP London (GBR)I_HardRoger FedererRafael Nadal6-3 6-0 Robin1.5-2.57
21/2011 ATP French Open (FRA)ClayRafael NadalRoger Federer7-5 7-6(3) 5-7 6-1 Final1.49-2.6
18/2011 ATP Madrid (ESP)ClayRafael NadalRoger Federer5-7 6-1 6-3 1/21.14-5.44
12/2011 ATP Miami (USA)HardRafael NadalRoger Federer6-3 6-2 1/21.63-2.25
52/2010 ATP The Mubadala World Tennis Ch. (UAE)HardRafael NadalRoger Federer7-6 7-6 Final1.82-1.96
47/2010 ATP London (GBR)I_HardRoger FedererRafael Nadal6-3 3-6 6-1 Final1.61-2.28
19/2010 ATP Madrid (ESP)ClayRafael NadalRoger Federer6-4 7-6(5) Final1.34-3.22
19/2009 ATP Madrid (ESP)ClayRoger FedererRafael Nadal6-4 6-4 Final3.42-1.31$$3/2009 ATP Australian Open (AUS)HardRafael NadalRoger Federer7-5 3-6 7-6(3) 3-6 6-2 Final2.18-1.67

[baskets]

in SLAMS??????


Rafa is 7-2 against Fed.

Fed needs this win

[yisman]

Nadal does not own Federer.

This kind of stuff is a great myth. Many of their matches have been on clay, and not shockingly, Nadal has dominated those.

Talking about poop and dicks doesn't make your post sound any better, either.

Nadal leads their head-to-head 17–9. However, most of their matches have been on clay, which is statistically Nadal's best surface and statistically Federer's worst surface. Federer has a winning record on grass (2–1) and indoor hard courts (4–0) while Nadal leads the outdoor hard courts by 4–1 and clay by 12–2.[70]

[zacharyj53]

in SLAMS??????


Rafa is 7-2 against Fed.

Fed needs this win

Nadal leads their overall head-to-head series 17–9, with 14 of those encounters having been on Nadals favoured clay court surface.

So off clay he is 3-9 against him.

[gregm]

Fed needs to beat Nadal in this spot. Big moment for his career.

????

[yisman]

Exactly. Not a big moment in his career at all.

Federer's legacy is made. He doesn't need to beat Nadal.

Most accomplished male tennis player of all time, and this match means very little in the grand scheme of things.

[horja1]

even Fed knows Rafa owns him. how much of Roger's poop is on Rafa's dick? lots

Fed needs to win to put things more in his favor

I hope you are not as stupid as you sound ... and stop posting about tennis ... it's obvious you have no idea about it

[Mikail]

Nadal leads their overall head-to-head series 17–9, with 14 of those encounters having been on Nadals favoured clay court surface.

So off clay he is 3-9 against him.

[Reener77]

Nadal leads their overall head-to-head series 17-9, with 14 of those encounters having been on Nadals favoured clay court surface.

So off clay he is 3-9 against him.

Actually Rafa is 12-2 on clay against Roger, so off clay he is 5-7.

[baskets]

It is a big moment in his career. Fed has lost almost 70% of his matches to Rafa. And in the big matches, almost all of them, Fed has gotten his ass kicked.

In the slams, when it counts, he has gotten his ass kicked. Fed only beat Rafa when Rafa was still improving on grass. The first match a demolition, the second a 5-setter.

Fed has lost 11 of last 14 to Rafa. And of those 3 wins... 2 were in the end of year tourney where Rafa was tired and didn't bring it.


Lol, don't know shit about tennis? If you don't think Fed is Rafa's bitch, you dont know tennis. Fed knows that he is Rafa's bitch, Rafa knows it .... and this is a huge match. Slams are where it counts... and if Fed loses again, he'll be 2-8 vs Rafa in the Slams.

If you think otherwise, then you're delusional. And believe me, I'm as big a Roger fan there is... but the facts are the facts.

[baskets]

Fed has a mental block. He should've won the French vs. Nadal last year... and he should've won the Aussie Open vs Rafa...

... but his mind prevented him from doing so.

Fed is -136 odds vs Rafa. Fed playing out of this world right now, Rafa playing like garbage. Fed should win this match in the semis... but will his mind go to mush yet again????

Sadly, if Fed loses this semis, which he definitely should win, it's the nail in the Fed-Rafa argument. At that point you'd have to put a stamp on Roger's anus that says, "Rafa owns this shit, bitch"


end of story

[EaglesPhan36]

The Abu Dhabi event was garbage exhibition, so I'm not looking much at that "recent" meeting ... what you should look at though is London last year at the end of the season when Federer crushed Rafa 6-3, 6-0. Was an indoor surface, but more indicative of where the two players are at. Rafa in better condition now then he was then, but by how much? Federer looks to be in about the same shape and form as when he killed everyone in London.

Surprisingly, they have not met that many times on hard courts in non-exhibition matches in the last few years. Going on current form, Federer wins. If Rafa had been playing someone like Fed or Djokovic today and not Berdych, I think he would be headed back to Spain right now. A steadier player would have been up 2-0 on Rafa after those first two sets and it would have been very difficult for him to work his way back. But that's why Berdych is Berdych.

[yisman]

Lol, don't know shit about tennis? If you don't think Fed is Rafa's bitch, you dont know tennis. Fed knows that he is Rafa's bitch, Rafa knows it .... and this is a huge match. Slams are where it counts... and if Fed loses again, he'll be 2-8 vs Rafa in the Slams.

If you think otherwise, then you're delusional. And believe me, I'm as big a Roger fan there is... but the facts are the facts.

The facts are the facts, and the facts prove that you're wrong. Nadal only "owns" Federer on clay, and again, Nadal is the best clay courter of all time. How many players does Nadal not "own" on clay?

If you think Nadal owns Federer, you simply don't know tennis.

[freshguy222]

what you need to factor in though is is that berdych's matchup against nadal favors berdych heavily. hard and long returns are often difficult to handle for rafa (main reason for his problems against djokovic). federer does not really have those hard returns which might give rafa more time before his second which is crucial for him. do you remember the us open final? djokovic killed him with those long and hard returns which federer lacks. and of course rafas spin although not as effective here works better on federers backhand. federers backhand longline will be important, but im afraid that feds serve (maybe using serve and volley a lot) will carry him

[yisman]

Let's see the line. If "everyone knows" Nadal "owns Federer", then Nadal should be the clear odds favorite.


155 Roger Federer -155
156 Rafael Nadal +135

So yeah, baskets is clueless about tennis.

[horja1]

what you need to factor in though is is that berdych's matchup against nadal favors berdych heavily. hard and long returns are often difficult to handle for rafa (main reason for his problems against djokovic). federer does not really have those hard returns which might give rafa more time before his second which is crucial for him. do you remember the us open final? djokovic killed him with those long and hard returns which federer lacks. and of course rafas spin although not as effective here works better on federers backhand. federers backhand longline will be important, but im afraid that feds serve (maybe using serve and volley a lot) will carry him

Federer will serve better than Berdych and for more than just 1 set (unlike Berdych) and he will win against Nadal in max 4 sets

[freshguy222]

ya well, we'll see, roger has to hit his slice serve from the deuce court then he will be in good shape as this opens up the court and rafas forehand side which is crucial against him

[baskets]

Nadal does not own Federer. This kind of stuff is a great myth. Many of their matches have been on clay, and not shockingly, Nadal has dominated those. Talking about poop and dicks doesn't make your post sound any better, either.

Let's see the line. If "everyone knows" Nadal "owns Federer", then Nadal should be the clear odds favorite. 155 Roger Federer -155 156 Rafael Nadal +135 So yeah, baskets is clueless about tennis.

mooooooooor - ooooooooon

This was clear as day. I bet on Fed, though... from a fan's point. Didn't really care about the money. Just can't stand Rafa owning Fed.

Anybody who can't see the Rafa ownage of Fed ... and the Djoker ownage of Rafa .... is as blind as dingbat.

[yisman]

baskets, you don't know tennis. The moron here is you.

Enjoy talking about dicks.