give me a reason to not put 850 on Kamke -170 over Soeda

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  • tevari
    SBR MVP
    • 02-02-07
    • 4959

    #1
    give me a reason to not put 850 on Kamke -170 over Soeda
    I mean, he demolished Andujar (who is admittedly dreadful on hard courts), and Soeda had like a 3 hour match the night before. Shouldn't Kamke be around -300 or so?
  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #2
    Why should Kamke be that big a favorite over anyone? Guy was supposed to be a breakout from the Challenger ranks to the ATP main draw type of guy this year, but he hasn't put together much. He's still a step below competing most days on the ATP level, so Soeda is pretty much his level of player. I go back and look at who he lost to last week in Metz and have a hard time putting any money on him. Soeda is a good fighter and plays pretty much every match on hard surfaces. Neither has much scary weaponry for this surface. I think the price is about right.
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    • sportman1313
      SBR MVP
      • 12-31-10
      • 2752

      #3
      I was actually surprised by the line also but do understand it bc Kamke indeed isn't THAT good but you'd think that he would have been favored greater merely bc he took out Andujar (who was in a bad spot anyways) and soeda coming off two 3setters. Even quality but I thought it would've been atleast -200, but do agree that price is about right when u evaluate the whole picture
      Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
      Why should Kamke be that big a favorite over anyone? Guy was supposed to be a breakout from the Challenger ranks to the ATP main draw type of guy this year, but he hasn't put together much. He's still a step below competing most days on the ATP level, so Soeda is pretty much his level of player. I go back and look at who he lost to last week in Metz and have a hard time putting any money on him. Soeda is a good fighter and plays pretty much every match on hard surfaces. Neither has much scary weaponry for this surface. I think the price is about right.
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      • innn
        SBR Sharp
        • 08-31-10
        • 492

        #4
        I will go with ...of course Go Soeda in this match
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        • Demonata
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 07-12-11
          • 25829

          #5
          I have to side with Tevari here. Kamke should win easily here and it is a good line to bet on. That Japanese qualifier does not stand a chance in my opinion and I will probably bet a hundred or so on Kamke. Especially with Kamkes upset and Soeda playing that long match. Kamke is the pick here. Good Luck man.
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          • tevari
            SBR MVP
            • 02-02-07
            • 4959

            #6
            Soeda isn't a huge mug or anything, but I think Kamke is on slightly another level here. I'll parlay him with Huber/Raymond in WTA doubles @ +115 for 400.
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            • noober
              SBR MVP
              • 10-23-09
              • 2012

              #7
              I don't trust Kamke after seeing some very poor displays from him this year.
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              • sportman1313
                SBR MVP
                • 12-31-10
                • 2752

                #8
                I don't trust Kamke either but he's in a real good spot here and I'm all over this one...best of luck, let's get this. Let's go Tobias
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                • birdmanweezy
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-18-10
                  • 4635

                  #9
                  no bet
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                  • shari91
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 02-23-10
                    • 32661

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Demonata
                    I have to side with Tevari here. Kamke should win easily here and it is a good line to bet on. That Japanese qualifier does not stand a chance in my opinion and I will probably bet a hundred or so on Kamke. Especially with Kamkes upset and Soeda playing that long match. Kamke is the pick here. Good Luck man.
                    What Kamke upset? He was -200 against Andujar for a reason. The last time he won as a dog it was in July against Chela.
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                    • tevari
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-02-07
                      • 4959

                      #11
                      Doubles hit. Just waiting on him
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                      • sportman1313
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-31-10
                        • 2752

                        #12
                        nice, hopefully he makes it quick and not cause us to sweat it out
                        Originally posted by tevari
                        Doubles hit. Just waiting on him
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                        • showtiime
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-16-11
                          • 2850

                          #13
                          tobias stop killing my parlay.
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                          • mattyheisman
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 05-25-09
                            • 301

                            #14
                            He blows. What a joke.
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                            • Demonata
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 07-12-11
                              • 25829

                              #15
                              Wow Kamke must suck.
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                              • goblue12
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-08-09
                                • 1316

                                #16
                                It wasn't a bad bet.

                                You got -170 on something where the fair market value was -185/+185
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                                • dRavidC
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-22-11
                                  • 2516

                                  #17
                                  kamke just broke back a bit of hope for you fellas
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                                  • innn
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 08-31-10
                                    • 492

                                    #18
                                    I told you I'll take Soeda and it's looking good
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                                    • mattyheisman
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 05-25-09
                                      • 301

                                      #19
                                      Somehow hes gotta get to the third set. Would imagine Soeda has to be tired.
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                                      • dRavidC
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-22-11
                                        • 2516

                                        #20
                                        if kamke wins the 2nd i think the 3rd is all his. think fatigue from two straight 7-6 sets will factor in - but the fatigue factor will ONLY kick in if it does go to 3 sets.
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                                        • mattyheisman
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 05-25-09
                                          • 301

                                          #21
                                          Fatigue wont matter. Gets smoked in tie breaker. What a loser.
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                                          • tevari
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-02-07
                                            • 4959

                                            #22
                                            pretty rough, but he didn't choke or retire or whatever. just got outplayed. on to the next one
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                                            • dRavidC
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-22-11
                                              • 2516

                                              #23
                                              yeah that's why you should never play non-well known inconsistent performers...
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