Murray vs D Young 09/06/11

tevari · 09-06-11, 09:56 AM

snowball's chance. he might take a set, but nothing more

Demonata · 09-06-11, 10:26 AM

He can beat him. Got the crowd backing him and feeds off of it. He's going to have to get a lot of winners from murray just playing safe. Young needs to attack.

SportsPedagogy · 09-06-11, 10:43 AM

Decent value. I played him today. He is an up and comer and eventually he is going to have a signature breakthru win ... Could be now

Demonata · 09-06-11, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by SportsPedagogy

Decent value. I played him today. He is an up and comer and eventually he is going to have a signature breakthru win ... Could be now

Exactly.

EaglesPhan36 · 09-06-11, 11:01 AM

I think Murray showed he is locked in now after his scare against Haase. He absolutely destroyed Lopez the other day. I'm still not a believe in Donald Young. All this "up and comer" talk is pure media-driven hype in the quest to find another serviceable US player to talk about other than Isner or a fading Andy Roddick. Young has had a nice tournament here and sure, upsets happen, but Young lacks the consistency to beat a player like Murray over the course of a Best of 5 IMO. I think Murray steps on his throat early and doesn't give Young any life. Murray in straights with Young having an outside shot to take a set if Murray struggles on-serve.

Anyone taking Young for "value" probably took Monaco for the same reasoning last night.

tevari · 09-06-11, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

I think Murray showed he is locked in now after his scare against Haase. He absolutely destroyed Lopez the other day. I'm still not a believe in Donald Young. All this "up and comer" talk is pure media-driven hype in the quest to find another serviceable US player to talk about other than Isner or a fading Andy Roddick. Young has had a nice tournament here and sure, upsets happen, but Young lacks the consistency to beat a player like Murray over the course of a Best of 5 IMO. I think Murray steps on his throat early and doesn't give Young any life. Murray in straights with Young having an outside shot to take a set if Murray struggles on-serve.

Anyone taking Young for "value" probably took Monaco for the same reasoning last night.

thank you for saying something sensible in this thread

Demonata · 09-06-11, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

I think Murray showed he is locked in now after his scare against Haase. He absolutely destroyed Lopez the other day. I'm still not a believe in Donald Young. All this "up and comer" talk is pure media-driven hype in the quest to find another serviceable US player to talk about other than Isner or a fading Andy Roddick. Young has had a nice tournament here and sure, upsets happen, but Young lacks the consistency to beat a player like Murray over the course of a Best of 5 IMO. I think Murray steps on his throat early and doesn't give Young any life. Murray in straights with Young having an outside shot to take a set if Murray struggles on-serve. Anyone taking Young for "value" probably took Monaco for the same reasoning last night.

Man upsets do happen in the Us open though. Nobody thought Roddick would lose to Isner back in 2009. Or Del Potro to defeat Federer. Donald young is 22 years old. I seriously doubt he's at his peak. In these later rounds in my opinion no one is safe. Especially in the US open. The game will tell. If Young gets blown out than that's normal but if he pushes it to 5 sets or even wins than a great game proving young can be a great player now.

tevari · 09-06-11, 11:24 AM

3 words

donald freaking young

i echo EP's sentiments, he's getting media hype for simply beating a few 'good' players thus far, but murray is on another level, let's get real here.

Demonata · 09-06-11, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by tevari

3 words donald freaking young i echo EP's sentiments, he's getting media hype for simply beating a few 'good' players thus far, but murray is on another level, let's get real here.

Sorry after seeing Isner beat Roddick and Del Potro defeating Federer back in 2009 I believe anything can happen in the US open. Probably wont happen but an injury,off da by murray or Young becoming a great player could happen today.

bruceBRUCEbruce · 09-06-11, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by tevari

3 words

donald freaking young

i echo EP's sentiments, he's getting media hype for simply beating a few 'good' players thus far, but murray is on another level, let's get real here.

pretty similar to the pubes->on a ->cupcake post, no?

face · 09-06-11, 12:22 PM

i've been making money on donald, i think he's good.

ringemup · 09-06-11, 12:31 PM

donald young is facing his greatest challenge here, hell have to be perfect to take murray down. i jus dont buy it.

face · 09-06-11, 12:39 PM

yea i don't think he beats murray, trying to figure out a way to make more money off him though. probably should just pass.

Mirar Baseball · 09-06-11, 01:09 PM

I think he will have to play a set of his life in the first set tomorrow to have a chance. And even then he might lose it 3-6 or 5-7. Murray is super confident and he might just be content with holding serve early on, and wait until adrenaline rush subsides and Young starts to fade away. This just could translate into a +700 first set moneyline win for the underdog. I lost with 1st set Dolgopolov against Novak last night and I probably will lose it again with Young tomorrow.

But you gotta realize that it's not do or die in the first set for the top four players. It is for their opponents. Thus a player who is willing to gamble in order to produce enough winners... and can be gotten at +600 or +900, should be played.

xxxvince · 09-06-11, 01:27 PM

murray hasnt been hot recently, 2 many unforced errors, young looked good beating wawrinka in 5 set

beefcake · 09-06-11, 01:56 PM

Now way I'm betting on a guy who I saw get into a Limo after the challenger event in freaking Charlottesville last year..my wife was laughing her ass off..Now when she see's "The Donald" on TV, she cant control herself..

vincanity15 · 09-06-11, 03:17 PM

Like his changes slightly better now the match is on grandstand and not ashe

EaglesPhan36 · 09-06-11, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

Man upsets do happen in the Us open though. Nobody thought Roddick would lose to Isner back in 2009. Or Del Potro to defeat Federer.

Big differences there though as Isner & DelPo have games perfectly suited to hard courts. Young has no major weapons that are going to scare anyone. His serve is not powerful. His forehand is decent, but not great. His best asset is probably just that he's a pretty decent fighter at the end of the day.

HeeeHAWWWW · 09-06-11, 04:15 PM

Not unless Murray has an utter howler.

Boner_18 · 09-06-11, 04:16 PM

Anyone can beat a guy who serves as poorly as murrray. I don't think he'll everwin a major.. do I think he makes his exit to don young. Nope.

Optional · 09-07-11, 04:34 AM

I don't get the Young love. How many serves did he drop to tipsy the other day?

I don't like betting on Murray as he is unreliable when you least expect it imho, but I sure wouldn't bet against him here. Murray 3-0 -178 or 3-1 +305 looks best options to me.

rthoughton · 09-07-11, 08:29 AM

no value in a loser. and rod-dick blows. not sure that isner example helps.

rthoughton · 09-07-11, 08:30 AM

murray rolls. and go all in on that douche nadal.

MUHerd37 · 09-07-11, 09:45 AM

I don't think Young has a shot. Murray is on a totally different level. Young's nice run ends here. Somebody posted that Murray hasn't been good recently. Really? 9-1 in his last 10 matches. Guy only plays hard when he wants to. Guy just won a Masters Series event in Cincy. This is a major event and Murray isn't gonna lose to Donald Young. Look what he did against Hasse. Got down 2 sets to 0 and completely turned it on. Then he completely dominated Lopez. Murray has this.

HeeeHAWWWW · 09-07-11, 10:05 AM

Yup, Murray tends to have one stinker a tournament. Sometimes he loses early cos of it at the US, cos he can be hit off court (Wawrinka last yr, Cilic year before). He had his stinker vs Haase, but woke up and won 13 games in a row.

Young isn't the type of player who really bothers him at all (as it was at Indian Wells). Serve isn't good enough in particular, and Murray is returning absolutely incredibly lately.

Also, Murray knows Nadal is beatable this year, and with the courts playing slow he can definitely beat Federer.

Demonata · 09-07-11, 10:08 AM

Young can't lose though because the match will never start with this rain.

juventusfc · 09-07-11, 10:47 AM

do u guys roughly know when play will start?