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  • jessetk313
    SBR MVP
    • 09-12-11
    • 1298

    #1
    Nadal v. Wawrinka
    So Nadal is 11-0 career vs Wawa including a 5-0 record on the hardcourt. Couple this in with the fact that Nadal really wants to add this WTF championship to his resume and I am left thinking..hmm....do we pound Nadal tomorrow?
  • matt1216
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-27-11
    • 14683

    #2
    I think Wawa can take this. He's out to show the big Boys he can stay...... That backhand seemed to be back for wawrinka last match. I know Nadal wants this tournament, but wanting and ability are two diffrent things. Federer wanted the French open, but it never happened
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    • MoneylineExpress
      SBR MVP
      • 04-18-11
      • 1439

      #3
      Originally posted by matt1216
      I think Wawa can take this. He's out to show the big Boys he can stay...... That backhand seemed to be back for wawrinka last match. I know Nadal wants this tournament, but wanting and ability are two diffrent things. Federer wanted the French open, but it never happened
      Federer won the French back in 2009 when Nadal was out.
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      • matt1216
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-27-11
        • 14683

        #4
        Originally posted by MoneylineExpress
        Federer won the French back in 2009 when Nadal was out.
        Yes, but federer lost a lot to nadal at the French open. My point is, if this is nadals weakest surface, and he's trying hard. Then there's nothing else he can do. If he wanted to win this he woulda done so a couple years ago. I think WaWa has a good shot. Ferrer didn't look completely into this match today.
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        • jessetk313
          SBR MVP
          • 09-12-11
          • 1298

          #5
          I understand your point Matt. I guess what I am saying is that Nadal has owned Wawa regardless of the surface. Even though Wawa is playing good tennis I think Nadal has flipped a switch and is playing good tennis as well.
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          • sluggy1616
            SBR MVP
            • 07-21-13
            • 1317

            #6
            I'm with matt on this. Not sure if I bet the games or the over. I might do both with a half unit on the money line.

            Does anyone know how the prize money for this event is paid? I think that will play a factor in how hard Birdy and Ferrer will play.
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            • losschaser
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-15-13
              • 723

              #7
              Wawrinka has never even won a SET against Nadal in 11 meetings. He might take a set tomorrow but I just do not see him winning at all. The line should be over 10.0 here. All that being said I still bet $100 on Wawa for the entertainment factor
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              • easyliving
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-25-12
                • 8876

                #8
                any value taking Wava+4 games?
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                • Noleafclover
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-06-13
                  • 1349

                  #9
                  Originally posted by losschaser
                  Wawrinka has never even won a SET against Nadal in 11 meetings. He might take a set tomorrow but I just do not see him winning at all. The line should be over 10.0 here. All that being said I still bet $100 on Wawa for the entertainment factor
                  Says its a bad line, takes it any way.
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                  • Stokes36
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 01-17-13
                    • 494

                    #10
                    Originally posted by easyliving
                    any value taking Wava+4 games?


                    Only once in the 11 meetings has Wawa covered 4 games. If anything, I'd go with Nadal -4.
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                    • sluggy1616
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-21-13
                      • 1317

                      #11
                      i took the over. no play on the money line. A bit of a sketchy bet by my standards. I think Nadal is getting tired and I like how Wawa took Joker to 5 at the us open many months ago
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                      • matt1216
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-27-11
                        • 14683

                        #12
                        Guys look at the lines.... -4 nadal and wawrinka has only covered it once??? Yet there still giving -4???? This should give u your answer right there. Wawrinka will cover
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                        • MoneylineExpress
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-18-11
                          • 1439

                          #13
                          Rafa owns players with the one handed backhand. The topspin is too much. Might be tight, but Nadal should be safe.
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                          • poet
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 08-11-13
                            • 796

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MoneylineExpress
                            Rafa owns players with the one handed backhand. The topspin is too much. Might be tight, but Nadal should be safe.
                            That's exactly what I was thinking. Gasquet, Fed, etc...
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                            • frugalgambler
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-30-13
                              • 3418

                              #15
                              Wawrinka took Nadal to 7-6(10) in the first set in China, a few weeks ago (going 0-4 on breakpoints). It is not like anybody will be expecting much from Wawrinka tomorrow and the crowd is probably going to support him. I am taking a stab at Wawa 1st set @+285. If he loses the first set, there is a pretty good chance he will fall apart in the 2nd set, like he did in China, so I do not really like Wawa +4.
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                              • MoneylineExpress
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-18-11
                                • 1439

                                #16
                                In those 11 matches lost, Wawrinka has only won 1 set
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                                • Sarunas
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-04-13
                                  • 2151

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by matt1216
                                  Guys look at the lines.... -4 nadal and wawrinka has only covered it once??? Yet there still giving -4???? This should give u your answer right there. Wawrinka will cover

                                  please! make the read on the sentence yous make writing. then make correct

                                  make increase on the moneys in futures
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                                  • Stokes36
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 01-17-13
                                    • 494

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by MoneylineExpress
                                    In those 11 matches lost, Wawrinka has only won 1 set
                                    Wawrinka has won 0 sets actually. lol
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                                    • poet
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 08-11-13
                                      • 796

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Sarunas
                                      please! make the read on the sentence yous make writing. then make correct

                                      make increase on the moneys in futures
                                      Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black?
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                                      • Sarunas
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-04-13
                                        • 2151

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by poet
                                        Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black?
                                        nos! not is the question of the englishes

                                        is question of the logicals



                                        Guys look at the lines.... -4 nadal and wawrinka has only covered it once??? Yet there still giving -4???? This should give u your answer right there. Wawrinka will cover
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                                        • kenz
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-09-12
                                          • 4879

                                          #21
                                          Berdych wasted 5 bps on the game just because he is nowhere near his last year form and a terrible returner and his mobility is poor. Wawrinka broke 2 out of 4 break points

                                          Mark my words Nadal will tactically return the same way as in the Ferrer game and all returns will bounce high with the surface. That really locked Ferrer's game. Ferrer does not like high bouncing balls, just like Wawrinka. Add to that Nadal's return abilities that Berdych does not have => we may see -hcp tonight
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                                          • Tboonepickem
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-21-13
                                            • 1113

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by poet
                                            Is this a case of the pot calling the kettle black?
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #23
                                              Stan looks over net and knows he can not beat Nadal

                                              He will try but I think easy straight sets
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                                              • jessetk313
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-12-11
                                                • 1298

                                                #24
                                                I hope so jj.
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                                                • pattymayo
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-19-09
                                                  • 10221

                                                  #25
                                                  A nadal win here ensures he ends the season as world number 1

                                                  Also, if Stan can beat Ferrer in next match Stan will likely advance to the semis anyway

                                                  I just don't see Nadal missing a beat here. Probably play he under
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                                                  • Simon Gruber
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-02-13
                                                    • 2342

                                                    #26
                                                    Let's go Stan. Got + 4 -105, and +450
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                                                    • BennyBigNuts
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 04-16-12
                                                      • 8700

                                                      #27
                                                      I need a good link anyone got one?
                                                      All these ones I'm clicking on are dog shit on p2p.
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                                                      • Bbfromgpt
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-24-12
                                                        • 6115

                                                        #28
                                                        I'm following on flashscore.com
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                                                        • BennyBigNuts
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 04-16-12
                                                          • 8700

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Bbfromgpt
                                                          I'm following on flashscore.com
                                                          Found a decent one

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                                                          • Betn247
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 12-24-10
                                                            • 622

                                                            #30
                                                            watchespn.com
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                                                            • jessetk313
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-12-11
                                                              • 1298

                                                              #31
                                                              Nadal is gonna bury me. Serving for the set and he's broken. Come on!!
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                                                              • Bbfromgpt
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-24-12
                                                                • 6115

                                                                #32
                                                                I wanna take a shot on Wawrinka live but just can't do it. This shoulda been over when it was 5-3 Nadal
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                                                                • MoneylineExpress
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-18-11
                                                                  • 1439

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Wow vintage Nadal. Stole those last two points when Wawrinka had the upperhand in the rallies.
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                                                                  • frugalgambler
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-30-13
                                                                    • 3418

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Wawrinka is just playing like a spazz on the big points. Nadal just has this effect on players like Ferrer or Wawa.

                                                                    Wow, as I was typing this, Wawa somehow broke back in the 2nd set. I was sure he was going to waste two more breakpoints. +4 has a good chance of covering (or at least pushing).
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                                                                    • matt1216
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 10-27-11
                                                                      • 14683

                                                                      #35
                                                                      You boys are lucky Nadal is even winning.... Stan break points almost every nadal service game
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