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kenzSBR MVP
- 12-09-12
- 4879
#13861Comment -
kenzSBR MVP
- 12-09-12
- 4879
#13862Fognini making his friends rich
He must see @15 in 2-5 0-30
Definitely fixedComment -
MiDNiTeSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-11-13
- 7684
#13863sousa falling apart nowComment -
kenzSBR MVP
- 12-09-12
- 4879
#13864Unreal Italian jobComment -
JC1186SBR MVP
- 02-21-14
- 1070
#13865Lol this isn't a fix.
This is just Foginini.Comment -
MiDNiTeSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-11-13
- 7684
#13866paire all over monty now it looks likeComment -
MiDNiTeSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-11-13
- 7684
#13867fukn two fukn games that is all sousa u dumb prickComment -
kenzSBR MVP
- 12-09-12
- 4879
#13868I think it is extremely likely a fix. The odds were very cautious even when Fognini was missing shots purposedly
Fognini is ItalianComment -
SirtySreeSBR MVP
- 12-19-13
- 2370
#13869Not a fix if you watch the game. Nothing suspicious going on. Both players chasing down some shots but Fog just went ridiculous after the initial break.Comment -
MiDNiTeSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-11-13
- 7684
#13870just hold the first game sousaComment -
MiDNiTeSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-11-13
- 7684
#13871i have +4.5 guy is up 7-5 5-2 30-0 any may not cover thanks sousaComment -
kenzSBR MVP
- 12-09-12
- 4879
#13872I am watching. My opinion of a fix wont change, neither yours. So no need to talk about itComment -
MiDNiTeSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-11-13
- 7684
#13873i dunno if fog fixed this match but when he was on his hot streak last year guy use to lose to mugs first set then blitz them 2nd and 3rd i dont think he was fixing today he came so close to losingComment -
MiDNiTeSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-11-13
- 7684
#13874miracle guy held twice after 2nd set meltdown u can lose now sousa u chokerComment -
gastoSBR Sharp
- 12-30-11
- 330
#13875How do you know that both players are not involved. Sometimes you need both sides to cooperate. Look at the NBA when sides mysteriously cover or total of game goes over with last shot. Wide open 3, and most of the top NBA players can make that if not contested.
Its on the Tennis Channel right and the British commentators are mentioning the wild swings. They said " Sousa won first set which he should not won and Fognini won second set which he should not won". This is all code word for " Fix is in". They will lose their jobs if they outright suggested that was the case.
Its pretty clear, Fognini is a better player so can pretty much decides if he covers or not, if games go Over Games total or not. Crazy to see how many people are naive here to think games are not fixed. Tennis is perfect for all the spot betting, and only 1 or 2 individuals needed.Comment -
JC1186SBR MVP
- 02-21-14
- 1070
#13876Oh man c'mon guys pull your heads in.
Sousa when up *5-3 30-15 hit a forehand that just missed by the smallest margin.
Could have easily been 40-15 - 2 mp's. In which case it would take a simple missed return into the net for GSM.
If Fognini losses this 3rd set I could understand some speculation.
But if he wins it rules it out 100% as Sousa was a few cm's away from match points and likely GSM.
When fixing you never leave margins that close.Comment -
kenzSBR MVP
- 12-09-12
- 4879
#13877My fav guy in ATP won
Forza FognaComment -
gastoSBR Sharp
- 12-30-11
- 330
#13878JC you dont have to find reasons why its not fixed. Just the odds at -580 and then having such wild swings tell you either the odds makers have no clue or something was going on.
Even if Sousa had won the point, who is to say he would not lose next two points with wild returns or two double faults if he was serving. Just saying it can be fixed even to the last moment. Off course that is dangerous especially if both players are not involved.
I just watched Set 3 and you can see who was better so I dont know what was going on earlier. I am happy though, had a 10 game parlay with baseball paying over $1,000 bet $10 and filled 9th spot with Fognini ML. One more spot , will not use tennis as I dont know the players and their tendencies muchComment -
SirtySreeSBR MVP
- 12-19-13
- 2370
#13879How do you know that both players are not involved. Sometimes you need both sides to cooperate. Look at the NBA when sides mysteriously cover or total of game goes over with last shot. Wide open 3, and most of the top NBA players can make that if not contested.
Its on the Tennis Channel right and the British commentators are mentioning the wild swings. They said " Sousa won first set which he should not won and Fognini won second set which he should not won". This is all code word for " Fix is in". They will lose their jobs if they outright suggested that was the case.
Its pretty clear, Fognini is a better player so can pretty much decides if he covers or not, if games go Over Games total or not. Crazy to see how many people are naive here to think games are not fixed. Tennis is perfect for all the spot betting, and only 1 or 2 individuals needed.
Most games that are shown on TV with large audiences are legit with very minimal fixes. It is usually the lower tier matches where the only details you will find about the match is the final score, where there is no tv coverage, minimal crowd, and no break down of points to be seen anywhere.Comment -
gastoSBR Sharp
- 12-30-11
- 330
#13880BTW all sports are ripe for fixing. In baseball same, one player, the Pitcher can significantly impact the outcome of a game. Look out for big time pitchers heavily favored against a decent team . If big time pitcher is away from home, odds are he will lose the game as most money flows to the big time pitcher with a big time team like Detroit, Cardinals or Dodgers etc. Just away from homeComment -
MiDNiTeSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-11-13
- 7684
#13881jc right man that wasnt a fix guy went for his shot and nearly had mp he just choked, fog was so close to losing thisComment -
gastoSBR Sharp
- 12-30-11
- 330
#13882The reason they will fix, is they know there are Tools who will believe that just because its on tv it cannot be fixed. Are you kidding me. If the power can go off at a Superbowl game and the other team mysteriously stages a comeback after a half hour delay with hundreds of millions watching, you mean to tell me they will not fix a game with maybe a few thousand people watching. Gimme a break.Comment -
SirtySreeSBR MVP
- 12-19-13
- 2370
#13883The reason they will fix, is they know there are Tools who will believe that just because its on tv it cannot be fixed. Are you kidding me. If the power can go off at a Superbowl game and the other team mysteriously stages a comeback after a half hour delay with hundreds of millions watching, you mean to tell me they will not fix a game with maybe a few thousand people watching. Gimme a break.
last post responding to this. we going off topic over a stupid issue wen we should hav just enjoyed wat was a good match and be discussing that and nt this dumb fix topicComment -
kenzSBR MVP
- 12-09-12
- 4879
#13884I think Andujar will winComment -
MiDNiTeSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-11-13
- 7684
#13885i never said there are no fixes and in some of fogs other matches big time suspicious i just not sure today is one since he so close to losing but i could be wrong just my opinion no need to get so hyped up manComment -
MiDNiTeSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-11-13
- 7684
#13886yeah im on pablo too guy is such a different player on clay cmon andujar no mugging around todayComment -
MarillionSBR MVP
- 01-06-14
- 1453
#13887Comment -
kenzSBR MVP
- 12-09-12
- 4879
#13888Guys since we dont have evidence, it is all subjective. I stated what I think, you guys stated what you think. Any further discussion and it gets ugly.Comment -
kenzSBR MVP
- 12-09-12
- 4879
#13889Speaking of fixes, what do you think about these two? I can't access Betfair now and cannot see how much money has been put on it:
Schwartzman D. - Saretta F. betting odds and user predictions. tennis Sao Paulo 2 Challenger Men 2014 (clay) H2H Results. Register for free on Odds Portal.
http://www.oddsportal.com/tennis/bra...e/#home-away;2Anything can happen. Not sure betfair has challenger tennis though
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kenzSBR MVP
- 12-09-12
- 4879
#13890
1. Poor serve, prone to double faults and weak 2nd serves
2. Prone to turn into a mental wreck in a very very short time
But he has very good groundstrokes and never lost in Monte Carlo in the first gameComment -
MarillionSBR MVP
- 01-06-14
- 1453
#13891Yeah, South America after all. I can imagine hordes of gringo match fixing drug dealers courtsiding there lol.
Btw that reminds me of a funny story about a chess player who played in a tournament in Nicaragua or Honduras (sth like that) a few decades ago. In the middle of the chess games (with spectators there and all) a guy from the local military junta went in between the tables with a Kalashnikov in his hand and started leniently moving around. Then he stopped the clocks and said "OK guys that's enough for now, you'll continue tomorrow".Comment -
bababooey13SBR MVP
- 11-13-13
- 1897
#13892No one said fixes don't happen in tennis as they do happen from time to time. Some of us were saying this game isn't, not all games isn't.
Most games that are shown on TV with large audiences are legit with very minimal fixes. It is usually the lower tier matches where the only details you will find about the match is the final score, where there is no tv coverage, minimal crowd, and no break down of points to be seen anywhere.
Im gonna keep betting every sport like it is rigged as it has been profitable for awhile now.Comment -
MiDNiTeSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-11-13
- 7684
#13893fantastic start pabloComment -
kenzSBR MVP
- 12-09-12
- 4879
#138941st serve points won 89% - 47% in favor of Vasselin
This is clay but serve still countsComment -
fcmbSBR Wise Guy
- 03-02-14
- 628
#13895Speaking of fixes, what do you think about these two? I can't access Betfair now and cannot see how much money has been put on it:
http://www.oddsportal.com/tennis/bra...e/#home-away;2Comment
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