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  • j-e-t-s jets
    Restricted User
    • 08-09-08
    • 346

    #1
    No MoneyGram or ** @ the greek!!!
    Time to move to vegas folks. First matchbook and now thegreek= no express money deposits. Called today and was told no ** or **. The USA government at its best...of all the problems in the world, lets concentrate on sports gambling. VERY SMART!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This sucks - can't deposit, payouts take forever and then you need to pray that bank takes the check.

    Count me out...........hard enough betting on games, let alone worrying about deposits and payouts.
  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #2
    It's becoming much harder for books to process transactions for it's customers, unfortunately. However hopefully they will figure out something that will be somewhat acceptable to all parties in the near future.
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    • katstale
      SBR MVP
      • 02-07-07
      • 3924

      #3
      Greek used to be friendly abt b2b. My understanding is now they pretend like they gave you a bonus to transfer with.....

      thats right, a 4x rollover requirement. But the bonus is never added. gotcha
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      • bigboydan
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-10-05
        • 55420

        #4
        I heard it was a 3x's rollover Katstale, but never the less. They did implement that rule a few weeks ago.
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        • katstale
          SBR MVP
          • 02-07-07
          • 3924

          #5
          maybe they like you better than me--but i got email with 4x which you have to admit is just outrageous behavior.

          I mean, personally i don't mind, but its still a hassle and a hustle by a book that made its name on class treatment of customers.
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          • bigboydan
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-10-05
            • 55420

            #6
            It could be 4x's at TheGreek and 3x's at BetJamaica (thought they were both the same though, but could be mistaken). Anyways, they had to do something IMO though, because everyone was taking full advantage of the 1x's rollover they had. because there processing was so far superior than everyone else's for the longest time.
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            • michael777
              SBR MVP
              • 09-20-05
              • 1936

              #7
              Originally posted by j-e-t-s jets
              Time to move to vegas folks. First matchbook and now thegreek= no express money deposits. Called today and was told no ** or **. The USA government at its best...of all the problems in the world, lets concentrate on sports gambling. VERY SMART!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              This sucks - can't deposit, payouts take forever and then you need to pray that bank takes the check.

              Count me out...........hard enough betting on games, let alone worrying about deposits and payouts.
              did they say they could not accept anymore ** or ** today because they already are at todays limit? or is this a more permanent thing?
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              • j-e-t-s jets
                Restricted User
                • 08-09-08
                • 346

                #8
                Oh no this is permanent......I was told the ONLY deposit method for US customers is some pre-paid credit card. The card only takes up to 100 and the nearest center to me is 250 miles away...boy thats convenient.....not even check or bank wire. WOW. I knew Greek was having trouble when they suddenly switched from MoneyGram to Western Union last weeek. ** is fast to pick up on this stuff. I went to deposit 250 bucks sunday via western union to greek and the clerk refused my transaction. I felt like a god damn criminal for trying to bet on a damn game. it was like i was on the 48hrs special "to catch a predator"....the clerk stopped the transaction (with my money in hand)....said he could not process my transaction and needed to call a mngr. I said ok fine give me my money back..he refused while he waited for his mngr..i was about to jump over and beat the little geeks ass....mngr came over...and said "western union cannot process transactions for overseas gambling"....I WAS SHOCKED...long line of ppl.....this sucks....US should fix wall street before doing this shit
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                • Mudcat
                  Restricted User
                  • 07-21-05
                  • 9287

                  #9
                  Regarding rollover for book-to-book, Bert was reporting 3x at Greek a short while ago

                  Here
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                  • j-e-t-s jets
                    Restricted User
                    • 08-09-08
                    • 346

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bigboydan
                    It could be 4x's at TheGreek and 3x's at BetJamaica (thought they were both the same though, but could be mistaken). Anyways, they had to do something IMO though, because everyone was taking full advantage of the 1x's rollover they had. because there processing was so far superior than everyone else's for the longest time.
                    To be fair, I think Greek is one of best books out there for timely payouts etc (check my previous praise of this book). That said, the bonus games they play are total BS. I think bonus whores should get screwed, but greek screws good customers and falsely advertises. Example- I got a friend at work to sign up and they told him i would get a 21% bonus. I called for the bonus and they said i was not eligible because one of their rules is you must have an active account with "multiple wagers" each week for the past 30 days. I said ok "i've had an account for 5 years and bet 1,000-2,000 per nfl game each week and that doesn't qualify"??? They said no that since i only bet 1-2 games that is not "multiple" wagers each week. So....i gues if i bet $10 on 200 games that would qualify???but 2000-4000 per week doesnt count. WELL SCREW YOU..keep your 250 bonus with 4x rollover. In addition, I've deposited multiple times moneygram at 1000-1500 per deposit and got "sorry sir express money deposits dont qualify for bonuses".....well what does qualify???? Customer Service has gone down hill fast...
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                    • katstale
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-07-07
                      • 3924

                      #11
                      email 3 days ago
                      Dear xxxxxxx,

                      Please be advised that all sportsbook transfers must be wagered with 4 times before a withdrawal can be processed. You have wagered with xxxxx and the rollover amount is xxxxx.

                      Kind Regards,
                      Hileah
                      The Greek Customer Accounts
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                      • bigboydan
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 55420

                        #12
                        Originally posted by katstale
                        email 3 days ago
                        Dear xxxxxxx,

                        Please be advised that all sportsbook transfers must be wagered with 4 times before a withdrawal can be processed. You have wagered with xxxxx and the rollover amount is xxxxx.

                        Kind Regards,
                        Hileah
                        The Greek Customer Accounts
                        I wasn't doubting what you were saying at all Katstale. I was just going by what they informed me of a few weeks ago. So I guess they upped it to 4x's at TheGreek which is a bit harsh, but never the less acceptable in today's processing format situation.
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                        • HedgeHog
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-11-07
                          • 10128

                          #13
                          I left The Greek a year ago...don't they still send checks to US?
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                          • Brock Landers
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 06-30-08
                            • 45360

                            #14
                            ok, this thread is TOTAL BULLSCHIT

                            I just talked to the greek, They have a Limited number of names daily for ** and **, but they are DEFINETLY options..

                            Also, Fed Ex a cahsiers check for ANY amount you want, or use bank wire for LARGE amounts if you want.

                            For smaller amounts, under 5 dimes at a time, the ******** card, or any other number of bank debit cards will work fine

                            There you have it, j-e-t-s jets is flat out incorrect
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                            • big joe 1212
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 06-01-08
                              • 19380

                              #15
                              Originally posted by j-e-t-s jets
                              To be fair, I think Greek is one of best books out there for timely payouts etc (check my previous praise of this book). That said, the bonus games they play are total BS. I think bonus whores should get screwed, but greek screws good customers and falsely advertises. Example- I got a friend at work to sign up and they told him i would get a 21% bonus. I called for the bonus and they said i was not eligible because one of their rules is you must have an active account with "multiple wagers" each week for the past 30 days. I said ok "i've had an account for 5 years and bet 1,000-2,000 per nfl game each week and that doesn't qualify"??? They said no that since i only bet 1-2 games that is not "multiple" wagers each week. So....i gues if i bet $10 on 200 games that would qualify???but 2000-4000 per week doesnt count. WELL SCREW YOU..keep your 250 bonus with 4x rollover. In addition, I've deposited multiple times moneygram at 1000-1500 per deposit and got "sorry sir express money deposits dont qualify for bonuses".....well what does qualify???? Customer Service has gone down hill fast...
                              The Greek tried this on me also, since I only use them for football season! I was told I'd get a deposit bonus, sent them money, then they pulled this! Complained enough, then they caved in!
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                              • j-e-t-s jets
                                Restricted User
                                • 08-09-08
                                • 346

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                ok, this thread is TOTAL BULLSCHIT

                                I just talked to the greek, They have a Limited number of names daily for ** and **, but they are DEFINETLY options..

                                Also, Fed Ex a cahsiers check for ANY amount you want, or use bank wire for LARGE amounts if you want.

                                For smaller amounts, under 5 dimes at a time, the ******** card, or any other number of bank debit cards will work fine

                                There you have it, j-e-t-s jets is flat out incorrect
                                OK shit for brains...if you give me your email address I will send you the complete email chain from today where they explain they will no longer take ** or **. You should do your homework before looking like an ass as usual. Yeah- i got nothing better to do than make up something about deposit options. Get a life..... Anyone interested in the email chain response (with the name of the customer service reps) let me know. SO- either thegreek is full of shit or they have misinformed customer service reps.
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                                • j-e-t-s jets
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 08-09-08
                                  • 346

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                  The Greek tried this on me also, since I only use them for football season! I was told I'd get a deposit bonus, sent them money, then they pulled this! Complained enough, then they caved in!
                                  Exactly my point. Great book but they pull this BS with bonuses. I'd prefer they don't offer bonuses period.....just hate false/misleading advertising to sucker ppl in. Do like matchbook and say no bonuses....can't have ur cake and eat it too with the misleading bonuses.
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                                  • wtt0315
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-18-07
                                    • 8037

                                    #18
                                    i think the ** block when you went to send it is because of ** blacklisting you.. they did it to me for sending to panama. that is 100 percent **
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                                    • j-e-t-s jets
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 08-09-08
                                      • 346

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by wtt0315
                                      i think the ** block when you went to send it is because of ** blacklisting you.. they did it to me for sending to panama. that is 100 percent **
                                      Good point- very well could be. Just strange that thegreek wont take ** today as well. We'll see what happens. Hopefully the gov't controls don't clamp down further. Thegreek is one of the most reliable books..bar none.
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                                      • wtt0315
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-18-07
                                        • 8037

                                        #20
                                        i usually make up names now as the sender. bad thing is if they **** it up you cant get your money back.
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                                        • Brock Landers
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 06-30-08
                                          • 45360

                                          #21
                                          Jets...you are wrong, i know whta i am talking about as i talked to the book and asked specifically what options as available. i listed em and thats the story
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                                          • wtt0315
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-18-07
                                            • 8037

                                            #22
                                            heres the email i just got
                                            Dear Mr. XXXXXX

                                            Please be informed that we still do money gram and western union deposits however we have no information's for both options at this time, if you wish to make a deposit using one of these options you will need to contact us tomorrow morning at 8am central time for the information to do the deposit.

                                            In regards to withdrawals we still do both options , however they are done on a limited basis.

                                            Regards
                                            XXXXXX
                                            Customer Accounts.
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                                            • Climate
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 01-22-07
                                              • 345

                                              #23
                                              I think the bottom line is we gotta fight to prevent all these unreasonable laws from making it impossible to gamble.

                                              It's not like people are going to stop anyway. I can call 3 bookies right now and get action.

                                              These guys are rediculous if they think they are going to stop gambling.


                                              They can't stop cocaine, marijuana or methamphetamines, and last time I heard, those businesses can kill you, and anybody else that gets involved in them.

                                              What a fuvking joke.
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                                              • AMBlai01
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-16-08
                                                • 5882

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bigboydan
                                                It could be 4x's at TheGreek and 3x's at BetJamaica (thought they were both the same though, but could be mistaken). Anyways, they had to do something IMO though, because everyone was taking full advantage of the 1x's rollover they had. because there processing was so far superior than everyone else's for the longest time.
                                                BetJamaica is also at 4X's i just joined that book about 2 weeks ago and that is what they told me....so they are both the same at 4X.
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                                                • thebertshow
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 08-30-07
                                                  • 645

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by katstale
                                                  email 3 days ago
                                                  Dear xxxxxxx,

                                                  Please be advised that all sportsbook transfers must be wagered with 4 times before a withdrawal can be processed. You have wagered with xxxxx and the rollover amount is xxxxx.

                                                  Kind Regards,
                                                  Hileah
                                                  The Greek Customer Accounts

                                                  I was going to post the e-mail where they told me 3x but I deleted it. It had to be a few days before that. They must have changed it to 3x and then after I cashed out at 3x they changed it to 4x.
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                                                  • Casperwaits
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 08-25-06
                                                    • 5042

                                                    #26
                                                    I use BetJamaica and a couple of weeks ago they told me they were not accepting ** deposits on weekends. I have been putting money into my acct on weekdays as of late via ** with no problem. They offered me the "convienence" of that PrePaid credit card thing, but the places they said that carried it do not carry it. Oh well.
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                                                    • big joe 1212
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 06-01-08
                                                      • 19380

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Casperwaits
                                                      I use BetJamaica and a couple of weeks ago they told me they were not accepting ** deposits on weekends. I have been putting money into my acct on weekdays as of late via ** with no problem. They offered me the "convienence" of that PrePaid credit card thing, but the places they said that carried it do not carry it. Oh well.
                                                      They are just too busy on weekends in football season. thats why they do it (i think)
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                                                      • TLD
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 12-10-05
                                                        • 671

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by j-e-t-s jets
                                                        The card only takes up to 100
                                                        Inaccurate, unless this changed drastically in literally the last few days.


                                                        Originally posted by j-e-t-s jets
                                                        the clerk stopped the transaction (with my money in hand)....said he could not process my transaction and needed to call a mngr. I said ok fine give me my money back..he refused while he waited for his mngr..i was about to jump over and beat the little geeks ass....mngr came over...and said "western union cannot process transactions for overseas gambling"
                                                        How would they know it was for "overseas gambling"? You don't wire money to a sportsbook, but to an individual.
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                                                        • j-e-t-s jets
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 08-09-08
                                                          • 346

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                          Jets...you are wrong, i know whta i am talking about as i talked to the book and asked specifically what options as available. i listed em and thats the story
                                                          My apologies- they are accepting ** and ** on a limited basis. The information I was given last week was incorrect. It looks like they need to change names often and have daily max deposits with both options. Industry is getting crazy....as long as the major books keep paying out we'll be ok.
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                                                          • cap10
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 09-15-07
                                                            • 494

                                                            #30
                                                            3 weeks ago bjam stopped me from ** on the weekend;;; i see where this is goiing;; bjam will cancel ** soon;; i hope i am wrong
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                                                            • jm765
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 07-02-06
                                                              • 156

                                                              #31
                                                              they are good >>>>
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                                                              • I.R.B
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-12-08
                                                                • 3209

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by wtt0315
                                                                i think the ** block when you went to send it is because of ** blacklisting you.. they did it to me for sending to panama. that is 100 percent **
                                                                A friend of mine went thru the same thing... He made more then a few OffShore sends in a months time and next thing you no he can't use ** anymore...
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                                                                • Brock Landers
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 06-30-08
                                                                  • 45360

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by j-e-t-s jets
                                                                  My apologies- they are accepting ** and ** on a limited basis. The information I was given last week was incorrect. It looks like they need to change names often and have daily max deposits with both options. Industry is getting crazy....as long as the major books keep paying out we'll be ok.
                                                                  thanks for the apology, i have played there for years now, i called and got the scoop the night you posted and told everyone what was up...its available!
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