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  • H1Cypher
    SBR MVP
    • 12-25-11
    • 1494

    #1
    5dimes prop dispute. Chat inside.
    Please wait for a site operator to respond.
    You are now chatting with 'Diana'
    Diana: Hello. How may I assist you today?
    Hey: Hi correct me if I am wrong but the basketball prop Team A to score 10+ points first vs Team B
    Hey: if team A has 11 - and team B has 10
    Hey: isnt team A win the bet?
    Hey: because team A had 10 + points first
    Hey: or am i incorrect
    Hey: it clearly reads 10+ points first
    Diana: Just a moment please
    Hey: Team B had 10 - Team A had 9
    Hey: then team A scored making it 11 - 10
    Hey: 10 + points first or am i wrong on that
    Diana: yes, if team A scored first more than 10 you win
    Hey: you guys graded a prop wrong
    Hey: here ill give you the ticket number
    Hey: so you cna change it for everyone else also
    Hey: 114534267-1
    Hey: clippers had 11 pacers had 10
    Hey: nba boxscore play by play will show it
    Diana: Just a moment please
    Hey: http://www.nba.com/games/20120320/LACIND/gameinfo.html
    Diana: checking with wagering
    Hey: sure
    Diana: they say it is correct
    Diana: Roy Hibbert made the 10th Indiana's point on a free throw
    Hey: that isnt 10 +
    Hey: that is 10 - 9
    Hey: read our text
    Hey: what did i just ask you
    Diana: the prop was
    Hey: the prop was 10 +
    Diana: which team scores the 10th first
    Hey: LAC scores 10+ points first 3/20/2012 7:00:01 PM - (EST) +100 Opponent: IND scores 10+ points first
    Hey: it says 10 +
    Hey: it does not say 10
    Hey: and i checked the rules
    Hey: and i asked youo and you confirmed
    Diana: 10 + meaning 10 or more. I asked a wagering manager
    Diana: sorry
    Diana: he is telling me that the first one to score 10 or more
    Hey: i dont care but you guys should change it
    Hey: 10+ isnt 10
    Hey: its 11
    Diana: whoever reached 10 first wins
    Hey: thats not english
    Diana: sorry
    Hey: and its not stated so in the rules
    Hey: so how cna it be that way
    Diana: 10+ in the prop means 10 or more
    Hey: it doesnt say that anywhere
    Hey: not even in the rules
    Hey: and you checked when you put me on hold
    Hey: earlier
    Hey: did you not?
    Diana: you can call wagering and ask for a manager
    Hey: when i asked you about Team A
    Diana: their response is that one
    Hey: thank you have a nice day
    Hey: can you guys change the wording
    Hey: in the prop for anyone else
    Diana: I will let them know
    Hey: anyone who speaks proper english may be confused
    Hey: have a good day
    Diana: thanks
    Diana: you too


    Why was I put on hold? Or was it pretend hold? Is their chat this incompetent... and I am curious what is the english definition of 10+? No money lost here- but I think they should cancel all wagers on merit alone - and re word this prop at 5dimes it is deceptive.
  • BET THE HOOK
    SBR MVP
    • 02-16-09
    • 1947

    #2
    Wow there are 5Dimes complaints popping up everywhere today.
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    • H1Cypher
      SBR MVP
      • 12-25-11
      • 1494

      #3
      Read the chat they look like absolute morons. I was nothing but on point... and I know the definition of 10 +.
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      • EricZ116
        SBR Sharp
        • 10-09-10
        • 493

        #4
        10+ should include 10 for sure. 10 + means 10 and over. Sorry dude, but they're right.
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        • Maniac
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 04-12-11
          • 667

          #5
          Sounds like they have messed up the wording for it a bit, but 10+ means 10 or more in my mind.
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          • macoeric
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-29-10
            • 626

            #6
            Ditto
            10+ means 10 and up in my mind
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            • H1Cypher
              SBR MVP
              • 12-25-11
              • 1494

              #7
              Originally posted by Maniac
              Sounds like they have messed up the wording for it a bit, but 10+ means 10 or more in my mind.
              So they should change the wording. That's what I'm saying. I didn't lose money on the prop but i don't like that it can A be mis interpreted and B has no clarification in the rules C they put me on hold 3 times(I didn't care cause i was watching the clipper game) and D their chat is plain incompetent

              Cause what if I had lost money- had been confused.... had not been watching a game... had been hustled.... and their chat ****** with me before shutting the door. That's how it could have happened. Rule needs clarification for safety of bettors.
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              • thejrichshow85
                Restricted User
                • 06-15-08
                • 3342

                #8
                I hate 5dimes but they are right in this situation... 10+ means 10 or more...you lose.
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                • Maniac
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 04-12-11
                  • 667

                  #9
                  If it said "More than 10" then you would have a point, but saying it out loud "10 plus" to me is exactly what it sounds like.
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                  • mrpooh
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 01-12-11
                    • 558

                    #10
                    Yup, book is right. They have to say 10+, otherwise people would say if a team doesn't hit 10 on the head, it doesn't count
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                    • princecharles
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 11-22-10
                      • 827

                      #11
                      Here's a more concise opinion.
                      You are BOTH an idiot and a terribly poor judgemented shot-taker.

                      I am amazed that some smart people actually responded normally to you.

                      Please go far far away. And stay there.
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                      • Justin7
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-31-06
                        • 8577

                        #12
                        10+ means 10, or more than 10. I don't see anything wrong here.
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                        • H1Cypher
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-25-11
                          • 1494

                          #13
                          No clarification anywhere on their website. Even the incompetent customer service didn't know- put me on hold. Said I was right- put me on hold said I was wrong.

                          That is the problem. There should be something in their rules or it should clearly say first to 10. 10+ points means 10+ not 10 or more. I know what the prop is- it just occured to me how dishonest it is- and even more so when I noticed they had 0 clarification anywhere on their site.

                          And lol at the people responding to me with what it means I could care less. Shot taker- implies I lost money here.

                          Regardless I will bump this just to show how pathetic their customer service is.

                          Lol- at so many people assuming I lost money betting on this prop. I should have been more clear what my dispute is about. There should be clarification somewhere in their rules. I've played the prop before and always assumed it was first to 10 like so many more... looking at it today it occurred to me

                          in any common english school if someone tells you to get 10+. It is over 10... only gamblers get use to tricky shit like this and are oblivious and totally okay with it- sheepish attitude.
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                          • djefferis
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-16-08
                            • 1197

                            #14
                            10 is a winner on 10+ and here is why...

                            say the score is 9-8, by listing 10+, it accounts for a possible 2 or 3 point shot by the team with 8, making it that the team does not need to EXACTLY reach 10 first to be a winner. If they had said first team to win 10, then someone would be on here complaining when his team scored 10 EXACTLY and the other team advanced from 9 to 11, never reaching 10 (or in the case of neither scoring exactly 10 at some point, wanting the wager declared a push).

                            There is some lead way for the book here, calling the wager 10+ means 10 or more points first.
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                            • EricZ116
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 10-09-10
                              • 493

                              #15
                              No, in any common English school 10+ includes 10. There is no dispute, you're 100% wrong. The prop is worded 100% correctly, and once again I'm sorry you lost money on this because I don't believe you took the time out of your day to argue with live chat any cite a particular game if you hadn't.

                              >10 does not include 10, maybe you are confusing the two? 10+ literally means "10 or more", not "more than 10" like '>10' would.
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                              • relaaxx
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-15-06
                                • 3281

                                #16
                                Originally posted by EricZ116
                                No, in any common English school 10+ includes 10. There is no dispute, you're 100% wrong. The prop is worded 100% correctly, and once again I'm sorry you lost money on this because I don't believe you took the time out of your day to argue with live chat any cite a particular game if you hadn't.

                                >10 does not include 10, maybe you are confusing the two? 10+ literally means "10 or more", not "more than 10" like '>10' would.
                                sorry you lost the bet - but like others have said - 5dimes is right.
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                                • Ez Money 77
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-23-11
                                  • 2585

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by H1Cypher
                                  So they should change the wording. That's what I'm saying. I didn't lose money on the prop but i don't like that it can A be mis interpreted and B has no clarification in the rules C they put me on hold 3 times(I didn't care cause i was watching the clipper game) and D their chat is plain incompetent

                                  Cause what if I had lost money- had been confused.... had not been watching a game... had been hustled.... and their chat ****** with me before shutting the door. That's how it could have happened. Rule needs clarification for safety of bettors.
                                  Dude if u didn't lose the bet then why did u go to chat and give a ticket number saying it was graded wrong if u weren't trying to take a shot? Go to chat and make a big deal about them grading a losing bet a winner? Yeah sure buddy.
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                                  • 5mike5
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-21-11
                                    • 52002

                                    #18
                                    common knowledge 10+ means 10 is included...

                                    cant really claim anything "tricky" about it
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                                    • Chris@thegreek
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 06-27-09
                                      • 19

                                      #19
                                      Prop is 1st team to 10


                                      You lost your bet, please read disclaimer, it is unreal, how bettors when they lose find a excuse to think bet is a winner
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                                      • pellumb341
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-25-11
                                        • 1183

                                        #20
                                        10+ includes 10 ... at my local bookies over 2.5 is "3+" , 3 or more goals to be scored.
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                                        • showtiime
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-16-11
                                          • 2850

                                          #21
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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65563

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by thejrichshow85
                                            I hate 5dimes but they are right in this situation... 10+ means 10 or more...you lose.
                                            What do you hate about 5Dimes?
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                                            • tommygun
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-01-10
                                              • 2239

                                              #23
                                              million complaints about 5 dimes today
                                              BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.

                                              Soccer Tipping: 5-0-1
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                                              • Dark Horse
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-14-05
                                                • 13764

                                                #24
                                                What do you not understand about 10 and higher?

                                                It's not that hard. Try it on your fingers.
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                                                • onlooker
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 36572

                                                  #25
                                                  Wow! Seriously?
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                                                  • BernardMadoff
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 12-12-09
                                                    • 6679

                                                    #26
                                                    Id read that as the FIRST team to get to TEN OR MORE wins the bet. Nice shot you tried, but Im sure theyve handled such before on more than one occasion.
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                                                    • BernardMadoff
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 12-12-09
                                                      • 6679

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by H1Cypher

                                                      Hey: here ill give you the ticket number
                                                      Hey: so you cna change it for everyone else also
                                                      Hey: 114534267-1

                                                      Originally posted by H1Cypher



                                                      Lol- at so many people assuming I lost money betting on this prop.




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                                                      • 5mike5
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-21-11
                                                        • 52002

                                                        #28
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                                                        • Dark Horse
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-14-05
                                                          • 13764

                                                          #29
                                                          If you didn't lose it, you won it. But you still called in on behalf of all of us? So that we wouldn't confuse the language in the prop, and all other props ever to be written. And, for this great and noble cause, you were willing to have your winning prop changed to a loss. The only question that matters, in the face of such greatness. Are you souperman?
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                                                          • indio
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 06-03-11
                                                            • 751

                                                            #30
                                                            Your example is eerily similar to another example.

                                                            The clinical definition of an idiot is one with an IQ of < 25. So since I'm quite sure your last test had you right at 25, then yes, you would be classified as an idiot, and not an imbecile, which is the next higher bracket.
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                                                            • RosieTheGreat
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 02-12-12
                                                              • 91

                                                              #31
                                                              no i pretty much agree with support here.

                                                              10+ means 10 or more.
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                                                              • cloverfield
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 12-24-10
                                                                • 862

                                                                #32
                                                                10+ is obviously there to cover a team that has 8 points and possibly hits a 3 pointer.
                                                                I can't even believe this would be a question
                                                                Is this a real thread?
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                                                                • RosieTheGreat
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 02-12-12
                                                                  • 91

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Or 9 and hits a 2 pointer.

                                                                  But yeah 10+ is easier to right than first team (>or=)10
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                                                                  • fizzwont
                                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                                    • 07-03-11
                                                                    • 55

                                                                    #34
                                                                    while op is mentally challenged, he's right that betting props at 5D is insane. They will make them vague then change the meaning to make it suit what side they are on. They screwed me out of 100 and lots of others on the hot dog eating prop a few years ago, prety sure they ended up taking both sides and Tony was the usual dick about it. Only play the vanilla low vig stuff at 5dimes!
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                                                                    • iQon
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-08-10
                                                                      • 1483

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Tam b "won." You shouldn't bet on things if you don't understand the grading rules
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