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  • warriorfan707
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-29-08
    • 13698

    #1
    Be careful at 5dimes if you bet an open parlay
    Look what happened to me. I was trying to take Butler buying points, and when I submitted it somehow it reverted back to +13. I called them IMMEDIATELY and told them what happened. Rep said he talked to the wagering manager and because the FIU game had started there was nothing they could do. They couldnt void it, change it, nothing. Crazy thing is when I submitted the 3rd leg of the parlay it showed it as Butler +20... then when I opened up my parlay to look at it somehow it had reverted back to +13, the actual line.

    This really fukkin pisses me off because Butler +20 would have been a winner and this cost me around 450 bucks. Im actually wondering if I should file a complaint about this.


    101048199-1 12/20/11 8:01pm $200.00 $510.20 $0.00 Loss 4 Team Parlay
    Win 12/20/11 8:00pm College Football 208 Marshall +7 -175* vs Florida International
    Win 12/20/11 8:00pm College Football 207 Florida International/Marshall Under 61 -700*
    12/20/11 8:29pm Loss 12/20/11 9:00pm College Basketball 563 Butler +13 -110* vs Gonzaga
    12/20/11 8:45pm Win 12/20/11 9:00pm College Basketball 581 College Charleston/Louisville Under 158 -2800*
  • Jerm3462
    SBR MVP
    • 11-09-09
    • 4454

    #2
    You will need a screenshot to win.
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    • warriorfan707
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-29-08
      • 13698

      #3
      Ya this is understndably a pretty hopeless case. Such bullshit though. I clicked Butler +14, dropped it down to 20, then submitted. Then I open my parlay and it shows Butler +13.

      Nothing I can do either.
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      • Jonah
        SBR MVP
        • 10-21-09
        • 4042

        #4
        Feel for you. Hate when stuff like this happens. Looks like this was just a regular parlay, was it an open one? Also, looks like it cost you more like $700.

        You should really be mad at the home job the zags got tonite. Butler shot like 4 free throws, the Zags - a ton. And then those degenerate gambler fans - who bought the vacated students seats - yelling and willing the Zags to a cover.
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        • Duff85
          SBR MVP
          • 06-15-10
          • 2920

          #5
          What is the difference if Tony takes your money on a marginal call or gives it to you so that you can lose it back to him more slowly. In the end your wagers will line his pocket. Why not just ring up your bank and add Tony to your account so he can take your money at his convenience.
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          • warriorfan707
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-29-08
            • 13698

            #6
            Originally posted by Jonah
            Feel for you. Hate when stuff like this happens. Looks like this was just a regular parlay, was it an open one? Also, looks like it cost you more like $700.

            You should really be mad at the home job the zags got tonite. Butler shot like 4 free throws, the Zags - a ton. And then those degenerate gambler fans - who bought the vacated students seats - yelling and willing the Zags to a cover.
            It was an open one, if you look closely youll see there are different time stamps for each leg.
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            • andywend
              SBR MVP
              • 05-20-07
              • 4805

              #7
              12/20/11 8:45pm Win 12/20/11 9:00pm College Basketball 581 College Charleston/Louisville Under 158 -2800*
              The closing total on this game was 139. Why would you possibly buy 19 points and be willing to lay -2800 at under 158?

              I am curious what the over 158 is priced at as if its anywhere near 20-1, that would be a fantastic wager.

              I would LOVE to book your action.
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              • durito
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-03-06
                • 13173

                #8
                Originally posted by andywend
                The closing total on this game was 139. Why would you possibly buy 19 points and be willing to lay -2800 at under 158?

                I am curious what the over 158 is priced at as if its anywhere near 20-1, that would be a fantastic wager.

                I would LOVE to book your action.
                they wont let you sell the points to bet the over. and if they did, obviously you wouldn't get that price.
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                • SBRMAN23
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-07-11
                  • 6905

                  #9
                  I know exactly what your talking about when a Line changes it hoes back to the original instead of what you bought it up or down to its so tricky of them you gotta read that shitt before u submit it
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                  • Bill Dozer
                    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                    • 07-12-05
                    • 10894

                    #10
                    Originally posted by warriorfan707
                    Ya this is understndably a pretty hopeless case. Such bullshit though. I clicked Butler +14, dropped it down to 20, then submitted. Then I open my parlay and it shows Butler +13.

                    Nothing I can do either.
                    Hi WF,

                    The line was never at 14 for this game. This was confirmed with 5D. Is it possible you forgot to buy the points and wanted to do so after placing the bet?
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                    • warriorfan707
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-29-08
                      • 13698

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                      Hi WF,

                      The line was never at 14 for this game. This was confirmed with 5D. Is it possible you forgot to buy the points and wanted to do so after placing the bet?
                      That was a typo, in the OP I said 13.

                      No, what happened was when I was submitting the third leg on this parlay (Butler) I bought it up to 20 and submitted it. I never bought it at +13. Then when I went to open wagers, it somehow had submitted at +13.

                      I called them immediately to tell them what had happened and that their was a technical error but they failed to acknowledge it. I never submitted Butler +13, I am absolutely certain.

                      What could I possibly have to gain by doing that and then calling them immediately to tell them there was a malfunction on their end?
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                      • warriorfan707
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-29-08
                        • 13698

                        #12
                        Originally posted by andywend
                        The closing total on this game was 139. Why would you possibly buy 19 points and be willing to lay -2800 at under 158?

                        I am curious what the over 158 is priced at as if its anywhere near 20-1, that would be a fantastic wager.

                        I would LOVE to book your action.
                        That was the 4th and final leg of the parlay, I wanted to finish it with something 100% certain and not be greedy.

                        Kinda funny that I have to explain this to you.
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                        • Cicima6709
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-12-10
                          • 1023

                          #13
                          The guy above is right though...Under 158 at -2800 is ridiculously bad value. You honestly couldnt find a better lock then 19 extra points on the total? I wouldnt take that at -1000.
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                          • warriorfan707
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-29-08
                            • 13698

                            #14
                            Bill, I find it interesting that what is being zeroed in on here is the fact that "The line was never at 14". Once again in the OP I clearly stated (twice) that it was 13.

                            Sounds like people are going to extreme measures to make this look like it was my fault.

                            Like I said I called them the instant this happened. This is total bullshit that they would not acknowledge it. People know how I bet. I buy points in these parlays. And the fact that I did call them the instant it happens should be enough. 5dimes is being shady here.
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                            • Jonah
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-21-09
                              • 4042

                              #15
                              Books will give you the wrong side or do something like this from time to time to rattle you, even if it is for far lesser amounts... One time with 5dimes, they said I bet the opposite side twice during halftime. I confirmed a the wrong side twice? Please.
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                              • BigdaddyQH
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-13-09
                                • 19530

                                #16
                                If this is the way you waer, it is amazing that you have anything left to wager with. Bottom Line: You lose. Whether you made the mistake or not, you have no way of proving anything. The nexst time you want to make some crazy wager like this, phone it inPeople who buy up points and lay ridiculous odds get what they deserve. You got yours. Call it in nest time, and get a name and a confirmation. You guys that trust offshore books should invest in beach front property in Kansas.
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                                • warriorfan707
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-29-08
                                  • 13698

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                  If this is the way you waer, it is amazing that you have anything left to wager with. Bottom Line: You lose. Whether you made the mistake or not, you have no way of proving anything. The nexst time you want to make some crazy wager like this, phone it inPeople who buy up points and lay ridiculous odds get what they deserve. You got yours. Call it in nest time, and get a name and a confirmation. You guys that trust offshore books should invest in beach front property in Kansas.
                                  You can feel free to blow me. Im not interested in your opinion. Im doing just fine wagering how I do, thanks.
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                                  • Bill Dozer
                                    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                    • 07-12-05
                                    • 10894

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by warriorfan707
                                    Bill, I find it interesting that what is being zeroed in on here is the fact that "The line was never at 14". Once again in the OP I clearly stated (twice) that it was 13.

                                    Sounds like people are going to extreme measures to make this look like it was my fault.

                                    Like I said I called them the instant this happened. This is total bullshit that they would not acknowledge it. People know how I bet. I buy points in these parlays. And the fact that I did call them the instant it happens should be enough. 5dimes is being shady here.
                                    Warriorfan,
                                    5Dimes states that you did not buy the points and they've never had an error with someone buying.

                                    The reason why the 14 was asked about because it looked like you were suggesting a line move reset your points buying. It was a bit confusing.
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                                    • pokerplayer22
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-09-09
                                      • 1207

                                      #19
                                      Warriorfan...im not taking sides but you are probably on the wrong forum if you are looking for someone at sbr to side against 5dimes. SBR is not likely to throw any blame at 5dimes no matter the situation
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                                      • warriorfan707
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-29-08
                                        • 13698

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                        Warriorfan,
                                        5Dimes states that you did not buy the points and they've never had an error with someone buying.

                                        The reason why the 14 was asked about because it looked like you were suggesting a line move reset your points buying. It was a bit confusing.
                                        Bill, I understand there is nothing to back up what I am saying other than my wagering history, my word, and the fact that I called them IMMEDIATELY.

                                        Im telling you man, this is blatant BS. I submitted the line at +20 and when I went back to my open parlay it was somehow submitted as +13.

                                        This is the first time I have ever seen this myself (although I dont bet many open parlays).
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                                        • pokerplayer22
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-09-09
                                          • 1207

                                          #21
                                          Warrior...what time did you call them and what time did the Butler game start? And do you know if the call was recorded? (Im guessing all are)
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                                          • warriorfan707
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-29-08
                                            • 13698

                                            #22
                                            I called them literally 5 seconds after the Butler leg of the parlay was submitted. Yes I believe all calls are recorded.

                                            I told them there was a technical error and they basically ignored it.

                                            Im not happy about this, and I know SBR will just side with 5dimes of course. This is fukked.
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                                            • pokerplayer22
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-09-09
                                              • 1207

                                              #23
                                              If you called 5 seconds after the bet was placed and well before the Butler game had started (and the phone call is recorded) then SBR needs to step in here and get something done aside from just cashing their 5dimes checks
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                                              • warriorfan707
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-29-08
                                                • 13698

                                                #24
                                                I agree. I absolutely did call.

                                                What is BS here is that the rep said "Because the Marshall/FIU game has already started we can't void or change this wager in any way".

                                                Well of course there was a game that started. THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF BETTING AN OPEN PARLAY

                                                I would never have submitted Butler +13 on an open parlay then called them immediately... cmon now. There was a damn technical error.
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                                                • warriorfan707
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 03-29-08
                                                  • 13698

                                                  #25
                                                  I would have won this parlay at Butler +20. Im not asking to be paid. But I do want my 200$ refunded.

                                                  I should not have lost that bet, that was total BS.
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                                                  • warriorfan707
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 03-29-08
                                                    • 13698

                                                    #26
                                                    Been a 5dimes member for many many years and have never had good things to say until now. No problems until this happened. (Aside from a couple blunders in their live casino)
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                                                    • Duff85
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-15-10
                                                      • 2920

                                                      #27
                                                      move on son... Tony needs more of your cash. Got any super-lock 8 teamers going today? Just reload and go with a Boise State (ml - ofc), Celtics, Fake Show, Heat parlay - make sure you buy say 10 points each on the nba plays. This would be your style of wager, yeah?
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                                                      • davidchong
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-10-06
                                                        • 1806

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by warriorfan707
                                                        I would have won this parlay at Butler +20. Im not asking to be paid. But I do want my 200$ refunded.

                                                        I should not have lost that bet, that was total BS.

                                                        ughhh? refund?,
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                                                        • warriorfan707
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-29-08
                                                          • 13698

                                                          #29
                                                          Hopefully SBR checks the phone logs at 5dimes and sees that this was not my fault. I called them immediately and informed them of their technical error and was virtually ignored.

                                                          Ive been betting for many years, I never make mistakes on my wagers. I know exactly what Im doing. There was some kind of website malfunction....
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                                                          • AlwaysDrawing
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 11-20-09
                                                            • 657

                                                            #30
                                                            Sounds to me like you tried to buy the points, the line moved, and you forgot to buy them again.

                                                            After the game started, you noticed and called to try to change it, and they said they can't change a bet in an event which has started, per their policies.

                                                            Unfortunately, in this case, the mistake seems to be yours. I'm sorry for your loss, but I agree with 5dimes here. After they told you that they wouldn't let you make a change they shouldn't change their ruling, otherwise players could freeroll them.

                                                            Would you still be complaining if you had won that last leg anyway?

                                                            Posting after the event reaches completion hurts your credibility.
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                                                            • warriorfan707
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 03-29-08
                                                              • 13698

                                                              #31
                                                              No. You're wrong. The line didnt move. Dude, Im a veteran, Ive been betting for several years, I know the difference between when a line moves and some technical error. It said something to the effect of "invalid selection" but it still let me submit it at +20.

                                                              You can believe whatever you like, Ive been betting with 5dimes for several years and I guarantee Im way more experienced than you in these matters.
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                                                              • AlwaysDrawing
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-20-09
                                                                • 657

                                                                #32
                                                                Did not mean to offend. You certainly are quite a bit more experienced at betting parlays while buying points.

                                                                Good luck with your dispute.
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                                                                • Optional
                                                                  Administrator
                                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                                  • 61517

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I have taken quite a few open parlays at 5 dimes and haven't come across any glitches.

                                                                  I believe that you believe you could not have made a mistake, but if 5D is telling the truth about no other problems like this happening before, you really have to be open minded to the possibility.

                                                                  I'll keep a close eye on any legs with points buys I do in future though.
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                                                                  • steveC3
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 07-07-10
                                                                    • 246

                                                                    #34
                                                                    everyone takes a bad beat. Move on brother.
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                                                                    • steveC3
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 07-07-10
                                                                      • 246

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Happy holidays to all
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