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  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #1
    Why do I get the feeling this year we'll set a new record
    With all these new books popping up this year trying to take advantage of the U.S. laws forcing more of the well known books to flee the U.S. marketplace I can't help but to wonder just how many victims their will be when they go to cash out after the football season is over. I have a feeling we might just set an all-time record this year when it comes to close up shop stiff jobs.

    What are your thoughts on this subject gentlemen?
  • MBENZ
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-07-07
    • 5238

    #2
    You actually think some of these guys will make it through the whole season?I don't.
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    • bigboydan
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-10-05
      • 55420

      #3
      Originally posted by MBENZ
      You actually think some of these guys will make it through the whole season?I don't.
      Well, I think a lot of them will close up shop AFTER the superbowl is over and pull a BetEd. The remainder will be just barely staying afloat IF their isn't an NBA season because even though college basketball good the season in the first week of April and then the slow season begins. I don't think the NHL playoffs and baseball is going generate enough revenue to make their payroll requirements no matter how short staffed they become in hopes of survival.
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      • ApricotSinner32
        Restricted User
        • 11-28-10
        • 10648

        #4
        What books are we talking about besides betislands?
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        • bigboydan
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-10-05
          • 55420

          #5
          Not sure if BetIslands will fold or not because they do have rather deep pockets from my understanding however, places like GTbets come to mind. They haven't business all that long now and their already have some troubles.
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          • HedgeHog
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-11-07
            • 10128

            #6
            Originally posted by ApricotSinner32
            What books are we talking about besides betislands?
            Perhaps you meant Jazz, because BI appears solid. They operate out of the same building and use the same software. But they are owned separately and Jazz is drowning in debt. I seriously doubt they'll be around next year. Hopefully, for the sake of those owed money, a major Book (Cris?) will bail them out.
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            • MBENZ
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-07-07
              • 5238

              #7
              Synbet and Bet Grizzly won't be around by Turkey day,there is a couple more running on fumes.
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              • Monte
                SBR MVP
                • 08-21-10
                • 2056

                #8
                Maybe because it is over for the U.S. right now, until something changes.
                Every day you risk your funds from now on, even in books that would be 100% safe otherwise like Bookmaker.
                Just look at the big picture, here in the gambling world they might be a big fish, but they are nothing and can be crushed like a fly by the law.
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                • bigboydan
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 55420

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MBENZ
                  Synbet and Bet Grizzly won't be around by Turkey day,there is a couple more running on fumes.
                  You might be right about BetGrizzly (Not Rated) however, the jury is still out about Synbet (Not Rated) but, I can't say it would surprise me at all if they did.
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                  • Nookx
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 12-17-07
                    • 486

                    #10
                    Thats why no one from the US should put money on any small sites. The Europeans need to beta test them first... Thanks Guys
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                    • Jerm3462
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-09-09
                      • 4454

                      #11
                      BigDan, don't you work for sbr?

                      arent you supposed to be painting a rosy picture of the industry ?
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                      • MBENZ
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-07-07
                        • 5238

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jerm3462
                        BigDan, don't you work for sbr?

                        arent you supposed to be painting a rosy picture of the industry ?
                        Telling the truth has never been a bad quality.Have never seen Dan pump a crap book.
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                        • 5mike5
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 09-21-11
                          • 52006

                          #13
                          GTBETS is joke...already claiming processor issues i see...thank god i didnt fall into "were nit vip but were are sort of" act...phew...glad i went with 5dimes
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                          • mtneer1212
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-22-08
                            • 4993

                            #14
                            Stay with the staples. 5dimes, Heritage, YouWager, BetOnline, Bookmaker and Legendz and all will be fine.
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                            • bigboydan
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 55420

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jerm3462
                              BigDan, don't you work for sbr?

                              arent you supposed to be painting a rosy picture of the industry ?
                              Yes, even though I'm employed by SBR I don't have to sit here and tell everyone to play at some book that we have on an ole "pump and dump" rotation like other sites out there. I was told by management since day one that I can recommend books that I felt comfortable with playing and as you can clearly see by some of my posts regarding this subject their isn't many at this time during the state of the industry as a whole that I even feel at ease even playing at.

                              The bottom line is this sir. People on this forum can blast me all they want if they feel the safety of their funds are not an issue during this rocky state of the industry it's currently experiencing however, I will go to my grave saying that should be everyone's top priority but unfortunately it's not.
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                              • 8ArIvd5
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-24-10
                                • 3175

                                #16
                                bbd, how should i feel about getting involved with 5dimes?
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                                • edawg
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-09-11
                                  • 2820

                                  #17
                                  IMO BBD is an A+ moderator!
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                                  • bigboydan
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 55420

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 8ArIvd5
                                    bbd, how should i feel about getting involved with 5dimes?
                                    I personally feel that 5Dimes (SBR Rated A+) is a very solid recreational shop and is most definitely worthy of your action. I feel very comfortable recommending them to all the U.S. players.
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                                    • shari91
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 02-23-10
                                      • 32661

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by MBENZ
                                      Synbet
                                      That's my vote right there. By far. Too many things wrong with that joint to even list.
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                                      • The Prick
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-31-05
                                        • 4965

                                        #20
                                        lolol "industry".
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                                        • bigboydan
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 55420

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by The Prick
                                          lolol "industry".
                                          Look here Prick. I thought I told you to stay out of this section unless you had something intelligent to add to the conversation. This is the ONLY section that I don't joke in... Get it, got it, good !!


                                          Have a wonderful day sir.
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                                          • bigboydan
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-10-05
                                            • 55420

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by shari91
                                            That's my vote right there. By far. Too many things wrong with that joint to even list.
                                            Synbet (Not Rated) is a skin of Pulsebet (Not Rated). Now I've heard mixed reviews about this establishment as a hole, some good and some bad. Well, I'll just tell you what I know and let you decide Shari.

                                            Justin7 has made a comment here in this thread (post #13) where he feels even though Synbet (Not Rated) is a very new book that if he were to rate them it would give them a "C-". On the other hand SBR poster Mr.Champi posted in this thread (post #7) that their skin site Pulsebet (Not Rated) is a scam book. Also very respected SBR Poster Peep backs up Mr.Champi's comments about Pulsebet with his comments with some type of location issues in this thread (post #9).


                                            Now since both of these books are not rated by SBR at this time I really can only tell you what I see out there right now. Personally, I feel if Synbet falters we might just see the double whammy and see pulsebet go down the tubes as well.


                                            Now the one nobody's even mentioned yet in this thread is TopBet (SBR Rated F) who just recently filled a sponsorship void at another gaming portal that had BetEd (Closed) as their top sponsor for quite a long time. Now what intrigues me about this particular book (Topbet) is the fact that they are part of the Futurebet family of books who has a very well known history of not only cheating it's players but the books that use their services as well which you can read about here. Needless to say this book is fighting the ultimate uphill battle in every possible fashion you can ever imagine because, theirs a good chance the triple screw job (book, players and gaming portal) could possibly left out in the cold at the same time.
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                                            • shari91
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 02-23-10
                                              • 32661

                                              #23
                                              Dan, I'm not sure if you've seen it yet but there's a new thread on the front page at Peeps with a rep from Synbet/Pulsebet/some walk in shop in the Bahamas that the rep won't name and that no one who's been there has ever seen. Needless to say, I wouldn't give them a penny after reading that. I wouldn't even take a no deposit freeroll there.
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                                              • MBENZ
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-07-07
                                                • 5238

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by shari91
                                                Dan, I'm not sure if you've seen it yet but there's a new thread on the front page at Peeps with a rep from Synbet/Pulsebet/some walk in shop in the Bahamas that the rep won't name and that no one who's been there has ever seen. Needless to say, I wouldn't give them a penny after reading that. I wouldn't even take a no deposit freeroll there.
                                                Exactly,after reading that thread there is no way you could possibly be blind enough to take a shot there.The guy can't lie fast enough to cover his tracks.

                                                Edited by Shari: The name of the thread at Peeps is "Synbet will be the most advanced sportsbook in North America"
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                                                • bigboydan
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 55420

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by shari91
                                                  Dan, I'm not sure if you've seen it yet but there's a new thread on the front page at Peeps with a rep from Synbet/Pulsebet/some walk in shop in the Bahamas that the rep won't name and that no one who's been there has ever seen. Needless to say, I wouldn't give them a penny after reading that. I wouldn't even take a no deposit freeroll there.
                                                  Actually Shari I didn't see that thread yet.

                                                  I will definitely check it out though.
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                                                  • shari91
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 02-23-10
                                                    • 32661

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MBENZ
                                                    Exactly,after reading that thread there is no way you could possibly be blind enough to take a shot there.The guy can't lie fast enough to cover his tracks.

                                                    Edited by Shari: The name of the thread at Peeps is "Synbet will be the most advanced sportsbook in North America"
                                                    (sorry I had to remove the link)

                                                    But yeah, when a rep for a new book appears here in a thread talking to himself with 2 accounts, one of those pretending to be just an every day bettor with knowledge about this new and wonderful book, that sets off alarm bells straight away. And then after I saw how Gavin was treated by both SynBet and the Rx in a case they deemed "mistaken identity" that was strike 2. Strike 3 -100 was that Peeps thread today.

                                                    Here are the posts I pulled of 2 of his 3 accounts from a thread Fishhead started about Synbet.
                                                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                                                    • bigboydan
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 55420

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by MBENZ
                                                      Exactly,after reading that thread there is no way you could possibly be blind enough to take a shot there.The guy can't lie fast enough to cover his tracks.

                                                      Edited by Shari: The name of the thread at Peeps is "Synbet will be the most advanced sportsbook in North America"
                                                      OMG, I just read this thread. Why do I get the feeling that this would be a prime candidate to be inducted into "The Rookie Project" that RPM set up for Roberto way back in the day. We all know how that fiasco went over.
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                                                      • shari91
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 02-23-10
                                                        • 32661

                                                        #28
                                                        Oh and here are their companies in case you live in Florida and were considering getting your Volvo serviced (all the sites are hosted in Costa Rica though)

                                                        affrewards.com

                                                        ezwinnings.com

                                                        izalozi.com

                                                        pulsebet.com

                                                        synbet.com

                                                        vmsflorida.com (Volvo servicer)
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                                                        • MBENZ
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-07-07
                                                          • 5238

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by shari91
                                                          (sorry I had to remove the link)

                                                          But yeah, when a rep for a new book appears here in a thread talking to himself with 2 accounts, one of those pretending to be just an every day bettor with knowledge about this new and wonderful book, that sets off alarm bells straight away. And then after I saw how Gavin was treated by both SynBet and the Rx in a case they deemed "mistaken identity" that was strike 2. Strike 3 -100 was that Peeps thread today.

                                                          Here are the posts I pulled of 2 of his 3 accounts from a thread Fishhead started about Synbet.
                                                          http://forum.sbrforum.com/sports-pro...1224538-a.html

                                                          For future reference,if I would have just multi quoted his rediculous responses,would that have stayed?
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                                                          • bigboydan
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 55420

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by shari91
                                                            (sorry I had to remove the link)

                                                            But yeah, when a rep for a new book appears here in a thread talking to himself with 2 accounts, one of those pretending to be just an every day bettor with knowledge about this new and wonderful book, that sets off alarm bells straight away. And then after I saw how Gavin was treated by both SynBet and the Rx in a case they deemed "mistaken identity" that was strike 2. Strike 3 -100 was that Peeps thread today.

                                                            Here are the posts I pulled of 2 of his 3 accounts from a thread Fishhead started about Synbet.
                                                            http://forum.sbrforum.com/sports-pro...1224538-a.html


                                                            Theirs always been shilling going on within the forums as we both know however, this is just mind boggling to say the least Shari.


                                                            I know gaming portals have to somehow make their money and I think everyone in this industry realizes that however, at this stage of the game within the industry it's not a wise choice to be pushing the pump and dump type places because not only are the players getting scammed by them but the DOJ is out to nail'um all too. Truly a no win situation for the players no matter how you look at it.
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                                                            • shari91
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 02-23-10
                                                              • 32661

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MBENZ
                                                              For future reference,if I would have just multi quoted his rediculous responses,would that have stayed?
                                                              lol yeah that would've been totally fine
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                                                              • bigboydan
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 08-10-05
                                                                • 55420

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by shari91
                                                                Oh and here are their companies in case you live in Florida and were considering getting your Volvo serviced (all the sites are hosted in Costa Rica though)

                                                                affrewards.com

                                                                ezwinnings.com

                                                                izalozi.com

                                                                pulsebet.com

                                                                synbet.com

                                                                vmsflorida.com (Volvo servicer)
                                                                It's funny you bring up this particular tid bit. After doing some research on some of these other newer establishments that have popped up on the scene as of late they too have these types of issues surrounding them as well. I'm still doing a lot of research on them however, I'm not seeing any connections to what their claiming. Of course once my finding are completed I will be sharing them with everyone.
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                                                                • MBENZ
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-07-07
                                                                  • 5238

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by MBENZ
                                                                  Synbet and Bet Grizzly won't be around by Turkey day,there is a couple more running on fumes.

                                                                  Looks like Synbet isn't going to make Thanksgiving.How's the Grizzlybear doing?
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                                                                  • bigboydan
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                                    • 55420

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by MBENZ
                                                                    Looks like Synbet isn't going to make Thanksgiving.How's the Grizzlybear doing?
                                                                    Things aren't looking good for either of them right now are they sir.
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                                                                    • HedgeHog
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-11-07
                                                                      • 10128

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by shari91
                                                                      (sorry I had to remove the link)

                                                                      But yeah, when a rep for a new book appears here in a thread talking to himself with 2 accounts, one of those pretending to be just an every day bettor with knowledge about this new and wonderful book, that sets off alarm bells straight away. And then after I saw how Gavin was treated by both SynBet and the Rx in a case they deemed "mistaken identity" that was strike 2. Strike 3 -100 was that Peeps thread today.

                                                                      Here are the posts I pulled of 2 of his 3 accounts from a thread Fishhead started about Synbet.
                                                                      http://forum.sbrforum.com/sports-pro...1224538-a.html
                                                                      Fishhead himself is the biggest shill on this forum. He promotes a Book until there's negative info against them--then he leads the charge the other way ( see BetPhoenix and EZStreet Sports). The guy's a fraud.
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