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  • sharpcircle
    SBR Sharp
    • 02-05-11
    • 308

    #1
    Party banned me and accuses me of fraud
    Situation from before i posted about:

    GF tried to open account at SIA it was closed with claims of fraud. I made a thread about it two weeks ago with the letter she recieved.

    situation:

    I open a PartyBets acount, and deposit money. money gets deposited succesfully, and a day later I cannot log into my acount. I phone them and they read me the exact same email that my gf recieved from SIA (about fraud/TOC). I tell him no fraud is taking place, he states they are doing it because, "there was many frauds from your isp", I don't know much about computers but this makes no sense to me at all.

    So wtf do I do now. I have never done a charge back, never wronged, any book etc etc. But somehow it seems I've been blacklisted.

    Cliffs:

    Im getting banned for "fraud" from books for no reason
  • Hareeba!
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 07-01-06
    • 37291

    #2
    Originally posted by sharpcircle
    Situation from before i posted about:

    GF tried to open account at SIA it was closed with claims of fraud. I made a thread about it two weeks ago with the letter she recieved.

    situation:

    I open a PartyBets acount, and deposit money. money gets deposited succesfully, and a day later I cannot log into my acount. I phone them and they read me the exact same email that my gf recieved from SIA (about fraud/TOC). I tell him no fraud is taking place, he states they are doing it because, "there was many frauds from your isp", I don't know much about computers but this makes no sense to me at all.

    So wtf do I do now. I have never done a charge back, never wronged, any book etc etc. But somehow it seems I've been blacklisted.

    Cliffs:

    Im getting banned for "fraud" from books for no reason
    anyone else ever used your computer ?

    did you buy it new or second-hand ?
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    • sharpcircle
      SBR Sharp
      • 02-05-11
      • 308

      #3
      New computer.

      My gf did sign up for SIA on my computer but I have never logged in to my SIA account from this computer or IP only my other sportbooks/pokersites.
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      • sharpcat
        Restricted User
        • 12-19-09
        • 4516

        #4
        Last thread you said that your GF did not use your computer at SIA.

        Welcome to the world of being blacklisted you should not have tried to open a new SIA account under your GF's name after your betting limits were reduced. SIA did not want your action anymore and you tried to scam them.

        No sympathy for you here.
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        • SmashThat
          SBR Rookie
          • 02-19-11
          • 14

          #5
          Maybe your GF's doing the fraud.

          Check her handbag, is it full of stick-on beards?

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          • Cap dat 4ss
            Restricted User
            • 10-11-10
            • 3665

            #6
            Anytime someone opens with "my gf tried to open an account" you know theyre lying. Better luck next life as a dogs tongue.
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            • LVHerbie
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-15-05
              • 6344

              #7
              Some books share information about fraud so it possible you got on a list for the second account that you tried to open at SIA...
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              • runner5k
                SBR MVP
                • 04-08-11
                • 2658

                #8
                Sounds like your on the blacklist buddy
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                • acarmelo1
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-29-09
                  • 6321

                  #9
                  Yup, blacklisted for trying to play smart.
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                  • sharpcircle
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 02-05-11
                    • 308

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sharpcat
                    Last thread you said that your GF did not use your computer at SIA.

                    Welcome to the world of being blacklisted you should not have tried to open a new SIA account under your GF's name after your betting limits were reduced. SIA did not want your action anymore and you tried to scam them.

                    No sympathy for you here.
                    Read better. I never signed in to my sia on my computer, only her SIA acount.

                    No one was scamming anyone. GF wanted to learn betting, thought i'd start her off on the easiest site avaliable. Now it seems im blacklisted
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                    • sharpcircle
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 02-05-11
                      • 308

                      #11
                      Anyone know which books are sharing the "fraud" info so I can stop wasting time depositing and getting banned.

                      So far:
                      SIA
                      Partybets
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                      • acarmelo1
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-29-09
                        • 6321

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sharpcircle
                        Anyone know which books are sharing the "fraud" info so I can stop wasting time depositing and getting banned.

                        So far:
                        SIA
                        Partybets
                        Just keep trying until one takes you.

                        I heard Bet911 is taking players
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                        • HeeeHAWWWW
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 06-13-08
                          • 5487

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sharpcircle
                          GF wanted to learn betting, thought i'd start her off on the easiest site avaliable.
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                          • sharpcat
                            Restricted User
                            • 12-19-09
                            • 4516

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sharpcircle
                            Read better. I never signed in to my sia on my computer, only her SIA acount.

                            No one was scamming anyone. GF wanted to learn betting, thought i'd start her off on the easiest site avaliable. Now it seems im blacklisted
                            Be smarter. Your GF playing your plays while you "teach" her is no different than you opening another account.

                            Whats next teach your mom, dad, grandmother, little sister, neighbor, etc. it sounds like SIA is going to lose a lot of money to your gambling lessons.

                            Epic fail at multi accounting you are the worst fraudster in history.
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                            • sharpcircle
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 02-05-11
                              • 308

                              #15
                              Okay sharpcat, now run along.
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                              • SBR Lou
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-02-07
                                • 37863

                                #16
                                Originally posted by sharpcat
                                Be smarter. Your GF playing your plays while you "teach" her is no different than you opening another account. Whats next teach your mom, dad, grandmother, little sister, neighbor, etc. it sounds like SIA is going to lose a lot of money to your gambling lessons. Epic fail at multi accounting you are the worst fraudster in history.
                                He may have got his hand caught in the cookie jar, but we'll be happy to confirm that the reason Party doesn't wish to accept his action is the incident with SIA if a sportsbook complaint is submitted.

                                Sportsbooks are being more proactive with sharing information on accounts they consider fraudulent, though this is the first alleged instance I've heard of an account being blacklisted if it were not connected to any debt or wide-scale bearding.
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                                • sharpcircle
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 02-05-11
                                  • 308

                                  #17
                                  Lou,

                                  Should I make a complaint, to find out why this happened?
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                                  • SBR Lou
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 08-02-07
                                    • 37863

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by sharpcircle
                                    Lou, Should I make a complaint, to find out why this happened?
                                    You can. We'll do our best to get an answer for you.

                                    Sportsbook complaint form
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                                    • sharpcircle
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 02-05-11
                                      • 308

                                      #19
                                      Thanks, just filed it.

                                      Any idea of the time frame of this process?
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                                      • BrianLaverty
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-02-07
                                        • 2183

                                        #20
                                        Lol.

                                        This guys an idiot... thinks he can outsmart the books with oldest multi accounting trick in the book...."my girlfriend"
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                                        • sharpcircle
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 02-05-11
                                          • 308

                                          #21
                                          Brian,

                                          Your reading comprehension skills need some work.
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                                          • faststeady
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 07-28-08
                                            • 196

                                            #22
                                            if he's not collecting the sign up bonus , why is it a problem
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                                            • sharpcat
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 12-19-09
                                              • 4516

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by faststeady
                                              if he's not collecting the sign up bonus , why is it a problem
                                              Because SIA limited his account to $20 max bets after he went on a run hitting them on their soft numbers he than tried to open a second account under his girlfriends name in order to circumvent his $20 betting limits and take more money from them.

                                              Multi accounting in order to circumvent betting limits is looked down upon by sports books. What is the point of limiting his original account if he can just continue by opening accounts under new names?
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                                              • dzzznutz
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 06-08-11
                                                • 469

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                Because SIA limited his account to $20 max bets after he went on a run hitting them on their soft numbers he than tried to open a second account under his girlfriends name in order to circumvent his $20 betting limits and take more money from them.

                                                Multi accounting in order to circumvent betting limits is looked down upon by sports books. What is the point of limiting his original account if he can just continue by opening accounts under new names?
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                                                • sharpcircle
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 02-05-11
                                                  • 308

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                  Because SIA limited his account to $20 max bets after he went on a run hitting them on their soft numbers he than tried to open a second account under his girlfriends name in order to circumvent his $20 betting limits and take more money from them.

                                                  Multi accounting in order to circumvent betting limits is looked down upon by sports books. What is the point of limiting his original account if he can just continue by opening accounts under new names?
                                                  Read slowly please...

                                                  I was banned from partybets for setting up a legitimate account under my own name.

                                                  If you wanna discuss my GF/SIA situation I made a thread for that. If not, just run along.
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                                                  • sharpcat
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 12-19-09
                                                    • 4516

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by sharpcircle
                                                    Read slowly please...

                                                    I was banned from partybets for setting up a legitimate account under my own name.

                                                    If you wanna discuss my GF/SIA situation I made a thread for that. If not, just run along.
                                                    You were banned from partybet because SIA put you on the blacklist for multi-accounting in order to circumvent betting limits that were placed on your account.
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                                                    • sharpcircle
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 02-05-11
                                                      • 308

                                                      #27
                                                      That ruling seems very unreasonable considering the facts of both situations.

                                                      You are entitled to your opinion and have shared it. This is the last time I will address any of your posts.
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                                                      • jimbo747
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 07-01-10
                                                        • 149

                                                        #28
                                                        Lou, why waste your time when there are plenty of other legitimate cases out there requiring attention? These types of players tried it with comeon too recently.

                                                        Really hope partybets just ignore all correspondance.
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                                                        • Hareeba!
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 07-01-06
                                                          • 37291

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jimbo747
                                                          Lou, why waste your time when there are plenty of other legitimate cases out there requiring attention? These types of players tried it with comeon too recently.

                                                          Really hope partybets just ignore all correspondance.
                                                          You may well be right Jimbo but books do make mistakes and if this is one the guy has a right to be given an opportunity to get it resolved fairly
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                                                          • Trident
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-07-09
                                                            • 2362

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by sharpcircle

                                                            You are entitled to your opinion and have shared it. This is the last time I will address any of your posts.
                                                            Let me be of assistance then.

                                                            You were banned from partybet because SIA put you on the blacklist for multi-accounting in order to circumvent betting limits that were placed on your account.

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                                                            • sharpcircle
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 02-05-11
                                                              • 308

                                                              #31
                                                              Most posters,

                                                              Your blind allegiance to books is depressing/scary.
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                                                              • drfunkmaster
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-29-08
                                                                • 11162

                                                                #32
                                                                sia sucks!
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                                                                • Halifax
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                                  • 553

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Almost certainly you were iesnare'd ... once your name (and your "girlfriend's" name) are in the iesnare database, any time you (or her) sign up at another book that uses iesnare, they will be notified that you are on the iesnare blacklist.

                                                                  Receiving the "exact same" e-mail (which is likely a "form letter" provided by iesnare) from SIA and PartyBets is also an indication of this.
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                                                                  • LegitBet
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 05-25-10
                                                                    • 538

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Sharpcircle,
                                                                    I find it interesting I'm the first person to ask you about a quoted sentence in your opening post.
                                                                    Other than grammatical problems you quoted the form email / chat with CS using the term 'isp' rather than 'ip', which is what everyone seems to think you said.
                                                                    These are very different terms. If by the crazy off chance you quoted correctly this is an entirely different animal. Check it out and confirm please.
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                                                                    • sharpcircle
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 02-05-11
                                                                      • 308

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Legit,

                                                                      Honestly, I'm not sure what he said (it was a phone conversation). I thought he said ISP but he could have easily said IP, he had a heavy accent, regardless I could tell from his anwsers and tone he wasn't entirely sure what he was talking about. (He read the email to me)

                                                                      Halifax,

                                                                      It seems very likely the iesnare was the cause. It was mentioned in the other thread but I assumed it was not my account that was "blacklisted".fml if thats the case.
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