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  • DEP78
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-07-10
    • 526

    #1
    5 Dimes - prop bet - can't lose
    At 5 Dimes Baseball Prop Bets

    6970 M Prado R+H+RBI < 2.5

    Since Prado is on the DL and not expected back until the end of the month I would say the < 2.5 is a sure thing.

    Take a shot?
  • neverstoppers23
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-26-09
    • 6302

    #2
    I think most of those props have a rule attached to it saying the player must play in the game and/or start.
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    • Trident
      SBR MVP
      • 02-07-09
      • 2362

      #3
      Bet it for the limit then cry to Tony when it is graded N/A
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      • yisman
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-01-08
        • 75682

        #4
        Yes, all player props require the player to play.

        It will be voided.
        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
        [/quote]

        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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        • DEP78
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 08-07-10
          • 526

          #5
          Originally posted by Trident
          Bet it for the limit then cry to Tony when it is graded N/A
          I knew a bet on that would be voided, but I called them and pointed it out to them a got a $25 fp
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          • relaaxx
            SBR MVP
            • 06-15-06
            • 3281

            #6
            Originally posted by DEP78
            I knew a bet on that would be voided, but I called them and pointed it out to them a got a $25 fp
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            • DEP78
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 08-07-10
              • 526

              #7
              Originally posted by relaaxx
              That was cool. I saw another one that wasn't a's obvious.

              J Ellsbury - score a run : yes/no.

              Ellsbury is not in the starting line-up tonight. Obviously that would hinder his ability to score a run, but not totally rule it out. The only requirement I can see for this prop is that - Price and Bucholtz must start. I asked the same guy at 5 Dimes about that one and at first he said it would be voided because he didn't start, then he backtracked a bit and said he didn't really know how it would be handled.

              What do you guys think? Would this be taking a shot a's Tony would say or is this just a case of spotting a good +EV situation? Again, I don't see anywhere where it says the player has to be in the starting lineup. Is it implied? Maybe it is.

              I'm just looking for opinions on this last situation. I would like a civil discussion about this, but we'll see.
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              • big joe 1212
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 06-01-08
                • 19380

                #8
                BetUs back in the day use to hang these type of lines and always paid for a couple of months til they finally caught on. (player vs. player total bases)
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                • soxwin1917
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-09-08
                  • 1188

                  #9
                  It will be voided and Tony will hold this kind of thing against you later on.
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                  • crinkle
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 12-20-07
                    • 208

                    #10
                    wow, you are a real wise guy!!!
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                    • TryingMyBest
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 03-07-10
                      • 611

                      #11
                      Originally posted by neverstoppers23
                      I think most of those props have a rule attached to it saying the player must play in the game and/or start.
                      Actually for the offense props at 5D, it only says the starting pitchers must start for action
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                      • stats13
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-29-09
                        • 1687

                        #12
                        is this DEP guy for real. i mean really bro u think its that easy
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                        • beagle25
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 01-29-08
                          • 108

                          #13
                          I play these props everyday. If the player doesn't start then it is supposed to be canceled. Doesn't mean it will be though as the grader from time to time will fail to notice that the hitter was in the box score as a pinch hitter.
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                          • LLXC
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-10-06
                            • 8972

                            #14
                            Player must start or the wager should be cancelled...sometimes 5Dimes gets confused about this and I have to correct them.
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                            • Stumpage
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-21-05
                              • 2906

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DEP78
                              I knew a bet on that would be voided, but I called them and pointed it out to them a got a $25 fp
                              Good they gave you that at least.....In my experience, a lot of books give a reluctant thank you and then you're on your way.....
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                              • stats13
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-29-09
                                • 1687

                                #16
                                Originally posted by beagle25
                                I play these props everyday. If the player doesn't start then it is supposed to be canceled. Doesn't mean it will be though as the grader from time to time will fail to notice that the hitter was in the box score as a pinch hitter.
                                I'd be careful about trying to take shots doing this. I could see Tony checking all your wins over time to see how many times you've won wrongly and not said anything, and all the times you complained when you lost but really pushed.
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                                • DEP78
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-07-10
                                  • 526

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by stats13
                                  is this DEP guy for real. i mean really bro u think its that easy
                                  Thanks for keeping it civil. Probably the way you were raised.

                                  The rep at 5dimes couldn't even give me a definite answer. If they included the phrase "all players involved in props must start" it would eliminate any doubt. It also would have eliminated this thread and the best of all - it would have eliminated any ostentatious comments by you.
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                                  • PanamaBrad
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 03-22-11
                                    • 717

                                    #18
                                    I for sure would never bet this type of thing without a chat log to back up my wager. Then a smallish size bet after that.
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                                    • Sawyer
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-01-09
                                      • 7761

                                      #19
                                      Prop limits make me sick. What's the point if I lose or win 100$? (Sometimes limits are low as 50$!?)
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                                      • jairocon
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 05-30-10
                                        • 446

                                        #20
                                        Usually props do require for the player to actually play... then again stuff happens. I wouldn't try my luck with this though. As was mentioned - it would be easy for tony to go back through the history and check if there are more bets that were wins when they weren't supposed to be. Although 5d should make adjustments to their software to get these props voided automatically.
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                                        • stats13
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-29-09
                                          • 1687

                                          #21
                                          if tony reads this forum, i have no doubt he's shaking his head at this thread.

                                          lesson 1- books aren't blatantly stupid. they might make dumb mistakes every once in awhile, but anything systematic that is outright wrong they'll either catch or be out of business soon enough
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                                          • beagle25
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 01-29-08
                                            • 108

                                            #22
                                            When I said I bet these props, I did not say that I purposely picked the players not starting and hoping for 5dimes to screw up their grading. Yahoo does not post starting lineups until about 1 -2 hr before games start so unless a player is hurt you won't know for sure if they're starting when you place these bets in the afternoon and morning.
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                                            • chachi
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-16-07
                                              • 4571

                                              #23
                                              will still look very suspicious when they do a search for these across acct history in the near future ...
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                                              • stikymess
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-19-10
                                                • 3288

                                                #24
                                                Just asking for trouble if you are going to do this at 5 dimes, sure shame on them for posting bad lines, not sure based on the amount you want to be deemed a "shot taker"
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                                                • chachi
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-16-07
                                                  • 4571

                                                  #25
                                                  well, if the lines being hung were either priced higher to indicate only pinch-hitter likelihood of cashing, and indicate 'action' in event on non-start this would not happen as it would be obvious

                                                  at the moment you're not sure if you're getting maybe a decent price on the one no start-no bet proposition or getting severely screwed over as you've bet a pinch-hitter only prop at semi decent starters odds
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                                                  • beagle25
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 01-29-08
                                                    • 108

                                                    #26
                                                    How has this thread turned into me taking a shot at 5dimes. If they looked at my history and saw me making $25 wagers on 5-6 of these props a day, there would be nothing unusual if I had 2-3 of them misgraded just because of the volume.
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                                                    • beagle25
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 01-29-08
                                                      • 108

                                                      #27
                                                      Also they are not posting bad lines. It seems that they just randomly pick hitters they will use each day without checking to see if they are injured. For instance, today they had line on Hanley Ramirez getting an rbi and Freddy Sanchez scoring a run who are both hurt. And no I did not bet against them hoping for a misgrade.
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                                                      • yisman
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-01-08
                                                        • 75682

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by beagle25
                                                        Also they are not posting bad lines. It seems that they just randomly pick hitters they will use each day without checking to see if they are injured. For instance, today they had line on Hanley Ramirez getting an rbi and Freddy Sanchez scoring a run who are both hurt. And no I did not bet against them hoping for a misgrade.
                                                        Hanley returned from injury several days ago and has been starting.

                                                        Might want to reconsider where you get your information.
                                                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                        [/quote]

                                                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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