this is NOT the end of offshore betting..please read
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donjuanSBR MVP
- 08-29-07
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Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#37
however the number of non Americans playing teasers would be very low indeed - very few have even heard of them let alone understand them
to a lesser extent the same goes for the props and openers
steam ? not sure about that but not one of my vices so whatever
more volume ... maybe added volume but at what odds - other than Greek's MLB MLs the odds would be pretty ordinary by comparison?
okay I should have said very few non US based sports bettors would have need to play at those books .. there are always exceptions to every general rule
but given the added risk now re payment options they would need to see some pretty significant advantagesComment -
donjuanSBR MVP
- 08-29-07
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#38okay perhaps you're correct on some of those at least
however the number of non Americans playing teasers would be very low indeed - very few have even heard of them let alone understand them
to a lesser extent the same goes for the props and openers
steam ? not sure about that but not one of my vices so whatever
more volume ... maybe added volume but at what odds - other than Greek's MLB MLs the odds would be pretty ordinary by comparison?
okay I should have said very few non US based sports bettors would have need to play at those books .. there are always exceptions to every general rule
but given the added risk now re payment options they would need to see some pretty significant advantages
In regard to this topic, all I can recall saying is that non-US players have no need to maintain accounts with any of the US serving books as they offer nothing beyond what they can get at the best books on the planet.Comment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#39
Some, but a very small minority of non-US based punters are interested in those types of bets.Comment -
lt56SBR High Roller
- 04-16-10
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#40The "land if the free' sucks right now; it's like a dictatorship. Much of the fun of betting and hitting is ruined because it's such a pain to deposit and withdraw. So I keep some money in account and only withdraw if I hit big. ALL the politicians suck in America and it's getting worse; not better. Off shore sites need to come up with new optionsComment -
duritoSBR Posting Legend
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Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-01-06
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#45I'm all for that but how ?
Non-US players can get the best odds and highest limits without using US serving books (save perhaps for some of those remote examples already provided by DonJuan)
Are you really incapable of providing any argument against what I've posted or are you only interested in pouring crap on me for the hell of it ?Comment -
donjuanSBR MVP
- 08-29-07
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#46I'm all for that but how ?
Non-US players can get the best odds and highest limits without using US serving books (save perhaps for some of those remote examples already provided by DonJuan)
Are you really incapable of providing any argument against what I've posted or are you only interested in pouring crap on me for the hell of it ?
Tennis and soccer WA lines with high limits. Nothing else.Comment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#47
golf
rugby
cricket
AFL
NRL
F1
US pro sports (other than props and teasers etc)
horse and dog racing
and many many more
absurd specificity ???Comment -
harlee71SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-02-09
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#51Nice post for Tony @5dimesComment -
Intuitive_EdgeSBR MVP
- 07-22-09
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#52You are clearly underestimating the power of the DOJ. While i agree that history is a potential indicator of what can happen down the road, the situation is much different than 2000 or the Neteller days. Sure M/O's cheque/ **/** are probably untouchable unlist blacklisted, but that hampers things to a ridiculous degree. Its gonna be interesting to see what happens. The whole situation is a fuking hassle for most i would think including the poker communityComment -
ScooterSBR MVP
- 01-15-07
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#53Over the past 2 weeks I have read nothing but posts implying that the US offshore industry is coming to an end.. it is not. This is an industry that has learned to adapt and work around the hoops that have been presented to it .
URLs were seized thats about it , and the truth of it is some of you here forget that this is the bookmaking business even your local guy can get busted in a sting and you wont get paid.
Beted.com simply did not want to go to BetEd.ag beted.eu etc etc a shame to say the least but over the course of 10 years we have seen countless shops open and close , people who read these blogs are informed enough to determine in which shops the risk is greater than others.
This all went down due to excessive CC use and the fact that its not secret the DOJ has out it for a few shops in particular , they want the money they want to freeze the fat bank accounts and they want to put fear in your head ..which they have done.
Betonsports , Cascade , Neteller , PrePaid ATM etc etc .. every single time that happened people would panic yet here we are... when neteller went down I remember the posts it was like reading a Nostradamus book or the same with Betonsports...yet here we are.
Why people complaint about not being able to use e wallets in the US after the legislation is beyond me it is obvious these e wallets were working underground and some risk would be involved .. yet the moment something goes wrong all of you start crying wolf.
Now not to say the recent events have not taught us anything but , the ones over the past 10 years have taught me something.. use certain methods as crazy as it sounds these are the ones that have been around the longest and still prevail.
Some of you have not been exposed to this business for long or the inside of it so as soon as something goes wrong it does not mean it is over.
The larger shops are being watched , that doesnt mean they will stop booking;for them to seize that business they would have to go into europe ask permission to steal a URL away, and then try and find all of their money ..not happening.
The one thing I have to say is bad news to you CC depositors back to reality and back to walking 10 minutes to get your action aside from that...business as usual
There should be a way to deduct points from a poster who puts up meaningless babble.
Without a doubt, things are increasingly worse in the USA and have been for a long time.
"Over the past 2 weeks I have read nothing but posts implying that the US offshore industry is coming to an end.. it is not."
Ok, great, I'm relieved. An anonymous putz puts up his first post on an internet forum and makes a guess about the future, without a shred of additional knowledge or insight.Comment -
goblue12SBR MVP
- 02-08-09
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#55-EV coin flippers who want to lose their $$$ slower than if they were betting elsewhere.Comment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#56
so you have some place you can get better odds than Pinnacle and Matchbook!
great, you either have a very low number of bets per year or have access to a place most non-US punters don't know about - that doesn't make my statement wrong for the vast majority of non-US puntersComment -
neverstoppers23SBR Hall of Famer
- 11-26-09
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#57The best answer is that they're small-minded idiots.
They say they have two concerns. One is of an actual fix that destroy the integrity of the sport, and the other is that every wacky thing that happens at the end of a game and reverses the pointspread winner will feed conspiracy theories.
Don't tell me how bookmakers are friends to the game's integrity, I get that. I'm just saying what they say.Comment -
lt56SBR High Roller
- 04-16-10
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#58For many in America; it is the end of offshore betting because it's not fun winning and then leaving the money offshore in fear of losing and having to go through the ropes of depositing again. So Americans win and don't collect and lose incentive to play offshore. The tougher it is to deposit and withdraw; the less many Americans will want to play.Comment -
duritoSBR Posting Legend
- 07-03-06
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#59abject failure to answer the question once again
so you have some place you can get better odds than Pinnacle and Matchbook!
great, you either have a very low number of bets per year or have access to a place most non-US punters don't know about - that doesn't make my statement wrong for the vast majority of non-US puntersComment -
deeshen13SBR Hustler
- 05-31-11
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#60For many in America; it is the end of offshore betting because it's not fun winning and then leaving the money offshore in fear of losing and having to go through the ropes of depositing again. So Americans win and don't collect and lose incentive to play offshore. The tougher it is to deposit and withdraw; the less many Americans will want to play.Comment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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wtt0315SBR Hall of Famer
- 01-18-07
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#64its not the end i agree but its the beginning of something bad for us playersComment -
John DoughSBR MVP
- 09-21-05
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#66Agree 100%. The only "new" aspect is the domain seizures, and that doesn't seem to be much of a problem. Processors have been disappearing for many years, books have been indicted before (they're located in foreign countries for a reason), etc.
The industry as a whole has steadily gotten worse for U.S. bettors over the years, especially post-UIGEA, but it has survived nonetheless.Comment -
PoweRayRestricted User
- 09-07-10
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#67Wonder if all the other A books are getting alternate domains just in case they lose their dot coms too.Comment -
ThrempSBR MVP
- 07-23-07
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#69I'm a Euro who almost never plays at Euro books. I make more money than almost anyone posting in this thread.
Most of the comments by Hareeba are naive since he's never actually bet more than a sockful of nickels on sports. MB has virtually no volume on anything I'm interested in betting. Pinnacle actually has significantly smaller limits on some events I'm interested in betting. When you spend less time being a poseur on the internet and more time making money for rent, you'll understand.Comment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-01-06
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#70who's the poseur ?
I've never claimed to be a whale like you have. I've told you my absolute max. wager is $5k. If that's a sockful of nickels to you, you've got f***ing large feet. But who cares?
What I still don't understand is where a punter can get better odds and larger limits amongst US serving books than they could at MB and Pinnacle because having asked the question repeatedly all I can get is smartarse responses from Durito and Thremp which are utterly useless to anyone.Comment
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