Is Online betting improving?

[roanildinho]

I have not been following betting so i do not know the history of it.

I only started following it last year.

Is on-line Sports betting improving or getting worse?

State your opinions below

[Hareeba!]

If you're not a Yank it's getting better all the time

[Maniac]

Strictly from a UK point of view, I would say that it is getting much better in terms of all the options there are these days, such as:

* More + more In-Play matches available, as well as many more different markets available both pregame + in-play.

* Better odds available than before with the likes of BetFair and other exchanges.

On the negative side of things, as the books get more sophisticated in the services and various markets that they offer, they also have been getting more and more stingy in terms of being quick and harsh to limit anyone who has the slightest inkling of what the best price is etc

[topgame85]

Easy answer

USA getting way worse, almost not even worth the time anymore
Overseas- constantly gaining better footing and each company looking to be better than the next

[roanildinho]

glad im not in the usa.

[durito]

It is not improving anywhere.

[BranchDavidian]

Not good for us Americans. Many books leaving market. Funding gets more difficult everyday. Many of the books that do take Americans will limit or boot customers for little or no reason. And then when you withdraw you get a 1 1/2 oversized check, with several bright pastel colors and " El Banco del Costa Rica " written on the top, which you must show to a bank clerk who you hope doesn't see that this is obviously gambling funds!

[Shark79]

It has different factors to look into. US or NON US / RECREATIONAL or WISE GUY.

[Coming Back!]

Absolutely Not!

[mtneer1212]

Getting worse by the day in my opinion.

[patswin]

Easy answer

USA getting way worse, almost not even worth the time anymore
Overseas- constantly gaining better footing and each company looking to be better than the next

^ what he said ^

[sharpcat]

Not good for us Americans. Many books leaving market. Funding gets more difficult everyday. Many of the books that do take Americans will limit or boot customers for little or no reason. And then when you withdraw you get a 1 1/2 oversized check, with several bright pastel colors and " El Banco del Costa Rica " written on the top, which you must show to a bank clerk who you hope doesn't see that this is obviously gambling funds!

I sent that one back.

[roanildinho]

ok more specifically,

Non us and Pro betting

[Hareeba!]

ok more specifically,

Non us and Pro betting

The prime books, Betfair, Pinnacle, SBO, 188 and Matchbook as good as ever and with the prospect of Matchbook expanding, things are looking very good. In Australia the local racing and sports scene has been nicely boosted by the arrival of Readbet.

[Scooter]

I have not been following betting so i do not know the history of it.

I only started following it last year.

Is on-line Sports betting improving or getting worse?

State your opinions below

roanildinho - "ok more specifically,

Non us and Pro betting"


Did SBR trade out Fishhead and draft this troll instead?

[Scooter]

Not good for us Americans. Many books leaving market. Funding gets more difficult everyday. Many of the books that do take Americans will limit or boot customers for little or no reason. And then when you withdraw you get a 1 1/2 oversized check, with several bright pastel colors and " El Banco del Costa Rica " written on the top, which you must show to a bank clerk who you hope doesn't see that this is obviously gambling funds!

Agree with the above.

However:

"And then when you withdraw you get a 1 1/2 oversized check, with several bright pastel colors and " El Banco del Costa Rica " written on the top, which you must show to a bank clerk who you hope doesn't see that this is obviously gambling funds!"

Recent experience -

Mine - high 4 figures - cleared in full in 4 days - 2 weekend, 2 business, at a major US bank.
($100 of it instantly cleared).

[sharpcat]

Agree with the above.

However:

"And then when you withdraw you get a 1 1/2 oversized check, with several bright pastel colors and " El Banco del Costa Rica " written on the top, which you must show to a bank clerk who you hope doesn't see that this is obviously gambling funds!"

Recent experience -

Mine - high 4 figures - cleared in full in 4 days - 2 weekend, 2 business, at a major US bank.
($100 of it instantly cleared).

I would be more concerned of the bank filing an SAR (suspicious activity report) against me, which is required by law that banks file, so a check for over $2,500 drawn from a Costa Rican bank is pretty much going to guarantee that you will be flagged.

[Scooter]

I would be more concerned of the bank filing an SAR (suspicious activity report) against me, which is required by law that banks file, so a check for over $2,500 drawn from a Costa Rican bank is pretty much going to guarantee that you will be flagged.

Tough to figure out what you're trying to convey in parts of this confusingly worded run-on sentence.

"I would be more concerned of the bank filing an SAR (suspicious activity report) against me, which is required by law that banks file..."

Banks file SARs if they have a reason to.
Depositing a check from a foreign bank in and of itself is not a reason to.
There is no law requiring banks to file a SAR upon deposit of a non-USA check.


"...so a check for over $2,500 drawn from a Costa Rican bank is pretty much going to guarantee that you will be flagged."

Nonsense.

Verification?
Links?


The world is much larger than the "sharpcat" world.
I would imagine that hundreds of checks are deposited daily from Costa Rica in US banks, if not thousands.
Did you believe that Costa Rica is cut off from the world's commerce?

Beyond that - simply having a SAR filed is meaningless.
There are about 800,000 SARs filed annually in the USA.
If a SAR was written everytime a non-USA check of $2500 or more was deposited, multiply that number by millions.

However, if a US Government agency is building a case against someone, they can look at the SARs reports on file and possibly it will give them some information which may aid their case building.

[Joe Dogs]

Ive got a gut feeling more books will be pulling the plug on the U.S. in the near future.

[roanildinho]

Well okay, but do you have a feeling that more books will be established for pros i hope so.

[Legions36]

Well okay, but do you have a feeling that more books will be established for pros i hope so.

Get a life man.

[roanildinho]

legions u get a life ur like a 40 year old bum.

[sharpcat]

Tough to figure out what you're trying to convey in parts of this confusingly worded run-on sentence.

"I would be more concerned of the bank filing an SAR (suspicious activity report) against me, which is required by law that banks file..."

Banks file SARs if they have a reason to.
Depositing a check from a foreign bank in and of itself is not a reason to.
There is no law requiring banks to file a SAR upon deposit of a non-USA check.


"...so a check for over $2,500 drawn from a Costa Rican bank is pretty much going to guarantee that you will be flagged."

Nonsense.

Verification?
Links?


The world is much larger than the "sharpcat" world.
I would imagine that hundreds of checks are deposited daily from Costa Rica in US banks, if not thousands.
Did you believe that Costa Rica is cut off from the world's commerce?

Beyond that - simply having a SAR filed is meaningless.
There are about 800,000 SARs filed annually in the USA.
If a SAR was written everytime a non-USA check of $2500 or more was deposited, multiply that number by millions.

However, if a US Government agency is building a case against someone, they can look at the SARs reports on file and possibly it will give them some information which may aid their case building.

Not sure what you are getting at in this clusterfuk you posted here

Are you saying that a high 4 figure check from Costa Rica is not more likely to be flagged as suspicious than the same check from any where else?

Do you realize that every banking institution in the U.S. is fully aware that Costa Rica is heavily involved in offshore gaming?

Are you saying that it would not increase your probability of a tax audit if your account were flagged for this type of suspicious activity?


Unless you have some die hard proof that what I said could not possibly occur I am forced to believe that your entire post attacking me was nothing more than another one of your troll attacks against me.

"sharpcat" continually proves one of the Basic Axioms of the Internet Gambling Forums:

Posters with "sharp", "expert", "pro", etc., in their handle - never are.

sharpcat - "What is the deal with all of this nonsense you are posting? Do you have a single piece of well informed evidence of any such thing happening to back these silly claims?



Somehow in your post you make it appear that you are quoting me.
I said none of that.
Everything you are quoting was stated by thegreen.

I quoted some of thegreen's statements in my 2 posts - but the majority of what you have in your post as "Originally posted by Scooter" was not even quoted by me and appears nowhere in my 2 posts.
The few sentences of thegreen's which I quoted are clearly indicated as quotes.

It appears you did this intentionally. Or you didn't bother to check your post once it posted, as you haven't bothered to correct this.

Again as I told you before I quoted TheGreen and SBR's software somehow screwed up and listed your name in the quote header instead of TheGreen's. I apologized like a man for an error that was no fault of my own, unfortunately you were not man enough to apologize for acting like a dick.

Of course your response was to be a troll and follow me to this thread and again fire off another personal attack at me when you cut into me and WVU's debate for absolutely no reason.

What is wrong with you Sharpcat?

Quite a bit, it appears.

To think you have the nerve to continuously call people "Trolls".

Get a life Scooter you had absolutely no reason to attack my post other than your obsessive need to troll me and attack me every chance you get just because of a disagreement that has absolutely nothing to do with this topic.

[Stefan]

I think the bookies are getting better and better. There are more bookies and more lines available than 2 years ago, but the bookies are updating the odds much faster than in the earlier years. It's getting much more difficult to get value odds.

[King_Suckerman]

I think the bookies are getting better and better. There are more bookies and more lines available than 2 years ago, but the bookies are updating the odds much faster than in the earlier years. It's getting much more difficult to get value odds.

Agree completely. Bookies now seem to have their odds linked to the exchanges.

[Sawyer]

Bookies (or betting market since bookie's goal is to create equal action in both sides so bookie lines don't mean to be predictions) don't know a sh*t about South America Soccer & Hockey. You can find tons of value.

Specially hockey. Home ice advantage is just too overrated.

[roanildinho]

cheers sawyer your a legend

[sneak-a-peak]

personally as a american i can certainly say it was less stressful wagering 4 years ago compared to today.

[clarkd32]

most books just copies lines now from the live odds... and any "rec" book is going to either send you packing or limit your wagers pretty quickly.

[maxvalue1]

worse for US

[Nikfrio]

The way things are going, in a few years it will be impossible for US players to gamble in overseas books. I hate local bookies.. Too many limits

[soxwin1917]

IMHO it's about the same for us Americans, other than it's tougher to deposit some places. I can still get action down at a number of safe books, and thats the most important thing for me.

[chilidog]

Do you realize that every banking institution in the U.S. is fully aware that Costa Rica is heavily involved in offshore gaming?

Actually, Costa Rica does not allow any financial transactions regarding online gaming. The USA put a stop to this years ago. Whatever sportsbook is paying out via a BCR bank account is going against CR law, and if the bank were to ever find out, their account would be terminated. Costa Rica is not on a financial blacklist. I send money back and forth from my CR bank accounts to my US bank accounts all the time, and I've never had issues. Why would I?

[mtneer1212]

Until we get to the point you can fund a book through an ewallet again like neteller, it will continue to decline.