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  • bettorjon
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    • 10-08-10
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    #1
    enough about pinnacle
    we all know how excellent pinnacle is...

    ...no closing of accounts
    ...no account limitation
    ...fast payout
    ...best sportsbook according to most punters

    now my question is, who is the next best sportsbook? or should i say, which are the top 3 books?
  • Hareeba!
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    • 07-01-06
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    #2
    Originally posted by bettorjon
    we all know how excellent pinnacle is...

    ...no closing of accounts
    ...no account limitation
    ...fast payout
    ...best sportsbook according to most punters

    now my question is, who is the next best sportsbook? or should i say, which are the top 3 books?
    that largely depends on what you want to bet on
    for me: BetFair, Matchbook (both exchanges) and Readbet
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    • bettorjon
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      • 10-08-10
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      #3
      what do you mean when you say that it largely depends on what i want to bet on?
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      • Hareeba!
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        #4
        Originally posted by bettorjon
        what do you mean when you say that it largely depends on what i want to bet on?
        If you want to bet US sports then Betfair generally will disappoint for liquidity. Matchbook and Pinnacle are the books to have.

        But Matchbook is pretty well a waste of time for non US sports (at this time, hopefully that will soon improve).

        If you are into soccer and AHs then you would want to add SBO and 188Bet to your arsenal.

        I listed an Aussie book, Readbet, because they offer a couple of unique products for Aussie racing and football codes both of which I'm heavily into but most on this forum wouldn't be the least interested in.
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        • Ruifgalmeida
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          • 04-23-08
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          #5
          Originally posted by Hareeba!

          that largely depends on what you want to bet on
          for me: BetFair, Matchbook (both exchanges) and Readbet
          readbet????
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          • bettorjon
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            • 10-08-10
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            #6
            liquidity means the limit they impose to very game right?

            so betfair, matchbook and readbet also has an excellent history when it comes to paying customers. nice

            i'll definitely tru readbet when im already in australia. thanks for the heads up
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            • thespeculator
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              • 09-09-08
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              #7
              alot of books in australia for a country of 22 million,
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              • Hareeba!
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                #8
                Originally posted by bettorjon
                liquidity means the limit they impose to very game right?

                so betfair, matchbook and readbet also has an excellent history when it comes to paying customers. nice

                i'll definitely tru readbet when im already in australia. thanks for the heads up
                liquidity refers to the amount of money available on the exchange at a given time .. if you are playing obscure markets you may find it tough to get set for what you want and may need to turn to a bookmaker

                all those books have an unblemished record of paying promptly
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                • Hareeba!
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ruifgalmeida
                  readbet????
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                  • brico
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                    • 04-13-11
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                    #10
                    Pinnacle, Pinnacle, Pinnacle, Legends
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                    • bettorjon
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                      • 10-08-10
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                      #11
                      lengends? are they as good as pinny?

                      i read some negative feedbacks about them
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                      • jcurro
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                        • 08-17-10
                        • 377

                        #12
                        What do you think of paddypower? Been using it for a couple of weeks and have better soccer odds than pinnacle on the favs
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                        • horja1
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                          • 01-13-11
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by brico
                          Legends
                          no tennis and very few soccer lines at Legends
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                          • David
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                            • 08-11-05
                            • 875

                            #14
                            Betfair and Matchbook are the next best places after Pinnacle.
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                            • bettorjon
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                              • 10-08-10
                              • 613

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jcurro
                              What do you think of paddypower? Been using it for a couple of weeks and have better soccer odds than pinnacle on the favs

                              do they pay?

                              i dont play favs alot by the way. 50-50% is hard enough to beat. what more on 33% chance?
                              im talking about match odds in soccer, with draw of course. favs always have better odds though compared to nba, nhl, mlb but the DRAW is the killer
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                              • bettorjon
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by David
                                Betfair and Matchbook are the next best places after Pinnacle.
                                both are betting exchange right?

                                what about sportbooks?
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                                • Stefan
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                                  • 03-21-09
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jcurro
                                  What do you think of paddypower? Been using it for a couple of weeks and have better soccer odds than pinnacle on the favs
                                  Paddy Power has some good odds, but if you win once you get limited. With a limited account the limits are very low, only useful for big leagues and sometimes not even then.
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                                  • Hareeba!
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bettorjon
                                    do they pay?

                                    i dont play favs alot by the way. 50-50% is hard enough to beat. what more on 33% chance?
                                    im talking about match odds in soccer, with draw of course. favs always have better odds though compared to nba, nhl, mlb but the DRAW is the killer
                                    PP pay but like all the Euro books will limit very severely if you show any talent

                                    don't like the draw, then you should be playing AHs

                                    for soccer you need SBO and 188Bet to complement Betfair and Pinnacle
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                                    • jairocon
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                                      • 05-30-10
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                                      #19
                                      betfair, 188bet, sbobet
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                                      • bettorjon
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                                        • 10-08-10
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                                        #20
                                        one more question,

                                        when we talk about books imposing limits, is the limit per game or for the overall wagered amount.

                                        for example: they limit you to $500 for MLB.

                                        can you bet $500 Red Sox ML and $500 Orioles ML?
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                                        • Hareeba!
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bettorjon
                                          one more question,

                                          when we talk about books imposing limits, is the limit per game or for the overall wagered amount.

                                          for example: they limit you to $500 for MLB.

                                          can you bet $500 Red Sox ML and $500 Orioles ML?
                                          yes
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                                          • bettorjon
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                                            #22
                                            so the limit is per game then and not for the overall amount to be wagered.

                                            NICE
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                                            • the_situation
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                                              • 10-22-10
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                                              #23
                                              matchbook/betfair are the next best 2 imo
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                                              • aliante
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                                                • 02-03-11
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by thespeculator
                                                alot of books in australia for a country of 22 million,
                                                In Italy there are 200+ online books
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                                                • bettorjon
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by aliante
                                                  In Italy there are 200+ online books
                                                  i guess you have to be a resident of italy to wager right?

                                                  here in the philippines, we only have one online bookie. an excellent sportsbook but of course you have to be resident here to place bet.
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                                                  • bettorjon
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                                                    #26
                                                    i thought legends, heritage, thegreek, and 5dimes are excellent books as well.

                                                    i wonder why no one metioned them.

                                                    hmmmmm.....

                                                    am i missing something here?
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                                                    • Hareeba!
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by bettorjon
                                                      i thought legends, heritage, thegreek, and 5dimes are excellent books as well.

                                                      i wonder why no one metioned them.

                                                      hmmmmm.....

                                                      am i missing something here?
                                                      they may be the best options for Americans but the rest of us can use the best books - better odds, more spots and options, more safety and higher limits
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                                                      • bettorjon
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                                                        #28
                                                        oh ok coz americans cant use pinny and matchbook right?

                                                        so these are their options.

                                                        but we can also open an account for these books right?
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                                                        • Hareeba!
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by bettorjon
                                                          oh ok coz americans cant use pinny and matchbook right?

                                                          so these are their options.

                                                          but we can also open an account for these books right?
                                                          you can but they probably can't offer you enough worthwhile to justify it if you have accounts at the best books

                                                          having said that though, I do maintain an account with Greek as they sometimes have the best tennis odds (but generally limited to $300) and now they have 10c MLB MLs which can be useful too.
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                                                          • goblue12
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                                                            • 02-08-09
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                                                            #30
                                                            You need some serious talent to win at Pinnacle, BetFair, and/or Matchbook.
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                                                            • mr.inpak
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                                                              • 12-13-09
                                                              • 449

                                                              #31
                                                              5 dimes by far reduced juice 5 cent overnight baseball lines
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                                                              • bettorjon
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by goblue12
                                                                You need some serious talent to win at Pinnacle, BetFair, and/or Matchbook.
                                                                talent in what?

                                                                its a game of luck, a 50-50 chance so i think luck is needed more than talent imo
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                                                                • bettorjon
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                                  you can but they probably can't offer you enough worthwhile to justify it if you have accounts at the best books

                                                                  having said that though, I do maintain an account with Greek as they sometimes have the best tennis odds (but generally limited to $300) and now they have 10c MLB MLs which can be useful too.
                                                                  its $300 max per tennis match right?

                                                                  how much is the minimum?
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                                                                  • Hareeba!
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by bettorjon
                                                                    talent in what?

                                                                    its a game of luck, a 50-50 chance so i think luck is needed more than talent imo
                                                                    if you believe that you shouldn't be betting at all
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                                                                    • Hareeba!
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by mr.inpak
                                                                      5 dimes by far reduced juice 5 cent overnight baseball lines
                                                                      for how much a) before they limit you, and b) after ?
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