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  • bettorjon
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    • 10-08-10
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    #1
    which sportsbook accepts bigtime bettors?
    is pinnacle on the list? if not, which sportsbook?

    im just asking because im planning to do the martingle system so chasing a of loss 10k is possible.

    does pinnalce accept 10k for a single game? again if not, which sportsbook falls under the criterion?

    tia
  • Chopsticks
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    • 06-30-09
    • 1057

    #2
    I would not recommend doing this..... but to answer your question: Yes, Pinnacle will let you lay down 10k no problem.
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    • bettorjon
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      #3
      thanks for the concern man.

      i cant understand the aggressive labouche system so im sticking with martingle for now.

      hopefully i wont be down that much

      any other sportsbook aside from pinny?
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      • chilidog
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        • 04-05-09
        • 10305

        #4
        Labbys aren't actually aggressive. It takes longer to recover from a loss using a labby, but it lessens your risk. Granted, nothing will save you if you just suck at capping games.
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        • katstale
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          • 02-07-07
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          #5
          My understanding is, over the phone, several will take all u want. Greek told me this once. Not sure if it was brag as i don't use phone to place wagers.
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          • bettorjon
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            #6
            Originally posted by chilidog
            Labbys aren't actually aggressive. It takes longer to recover from a loss using a labby, but it lessens your risk. Granted, nothing will save you if you just suck at capping games.
            i know but there are cappers who prefer using the aggressive labby system than martingle. im confuse with the former so i'll just stick with the latter for now.

            btw, you havent answered my query
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            • bettorjon
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              #7
              Originally posted by katstale
              My understanding is, over the phone, several will take all u want. Greek told me this once. Not sure if it was brag as i don't use phone to place wagers.
              hey man,

              im not planning to place bet over the phone since i live in the philippines and it would be costly for me if i call offshore sportsbook everytime. online placement is the route that suits best for me

              so you think that thegreek would allow me to bet a huge amount for a single game when time comes?

              but hopefully i wont chase that huge amount.
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              • chilidog
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                • 04-05-09
                • 10305

                #8
                You're concerned with a long distance phone call, but you're ready to make a $10,000 bet? Doesn't add up.
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                • wrongturn
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                  • 06-06-06
                  • 2228

                  #9
                  why not BetFair or matchbook? You get the best price and the largest limit for straight bets in major sports.
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                  • Monte
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                    • 08-21-10
                    • 2056

                    #10
                    search is a very nice board tool.
                    And Pinny lets you bet 30-100k on most major league spreads, not 10.
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                    • Hareeba!
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                      • 07-01-06
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                      #11
                      ALL books should be lining up to bid for your business if you are planning on playing Martingale!

                      Dumbest betting idea ever invented. You are guaranteed to lose your whole bank.
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                      • jpb383
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                        • 06-14-10
                        • 242

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bettorjon
                        hey man,

                        im not planning to place bet over the phone since i live in the philippines and it would be costly for me if i call offshore sportsbook everytime. online placement is the route that suits best for me

                        so you think that thegreek would allow me to bet a huge amount for a single game when time comes?

                        but hopefully i wont chase that huge amount.
                        Phillipines you have SBO, MEGASPORTSWORLD,HKJC, and other large books willing to take 10k+++ wagers casually.
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                        • bettorjon
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by chilidog
                          You're concerned with a long distance phone call, but you're ready to make a $10,000 bet? Doesn't add up.
                          why not? why would i charge myself extra pennies (especially when im losing) if i can wager without any cost online?

                          makes sense to me.
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                          • bettorjon
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Monte
                            search is a very nice board tool.
                            And Pinny lets you bet 30-100k on most major league spreads, not 10.
                            30-100k for a sigle game?

                            for sure? then i dont have to worry about the martingle system

                            thanks
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                            • bettorjon
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hareeba!
                              ALL books should be lining up to bid for your business if you are planning on playing Martingale!

                              Dumbest betting idea ever invented. You are guaranteed to lose your whole bank.
                              actually, martingle is the best system ever invented. do a three game chase all the time. for sure youll win 1 out of three

                              money management is still important. i know what approach im going to take to make the martingle system work for me and not against me.

                              i maybe stupid but i still believe that a 1-10 record is still profitable at the end of the day for as long as that 1 win occurs on the 11th game. this is of course an exagerated example but only proves that the martingle system is effective though costly.
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                              • bettorjon
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by jpb383
                                Phillipines you have SBO, MEGASPORTSWORLD,HKJC, and other large books willing to take 10k+++ wagers casually.
                                hey man thanks for the info. have you already played with these sportsbooks? do they pay without any hassle at all? just wondering because i dont see sbo and hkjc on the sportsbook review page.

                                msw ive heard is a good book. i just hope that they accept $10k (450,000 pesos) for a single game.

                                btw, i checked sbo but their site is down
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                                • Stumpage
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                                  • 09-21-05
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                                  #17
                                  Yes, Pinnacle will allow large wagers (number dependent on the sport, of course). Somebody else mentioned BetFair, which seems like a viable option as well.
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                                  • Hareeba!
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                                    • 07-01-06
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bettorjon
                                    hey man thanks for the info. have you already played with these sportsbooks? do they pay without any hassle at all? just wondering because i dont see sbo and hkjc on the sportsbook review page.

                                    msw ive heard is a good book. i just hope that they accept $10k (450,000 pesos) for a single game.

                                    btw, i checked sbo but their site is down
                                    SBO is up and working for me
                                    never had any problems with withdrawals ... very prompt every time

                                    I understand that the only way to open an account with HKJC is to personally front up in HK and open an account?
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                                    • Hareeba!
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                                      • 07-01-06
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by bettorjon
                                      actually, martingle is the best system ever invented. do a three game chase all the time. for sure youll win 1 out of three

                                      money management is still important. i know what approach im going to take to make the martingle system work for me and not against me.

                                      i maybe stupid but i still believe that a 1-10 record is still profitable at the end of the day for as long as that 1 win occurs on the 11th game. this is of course an exagerated example but only proves that the martingle system is effective though costly.
                                      One day it may dawn on you that to win in the long term you have to be getting VALUE for your bets.

                                      Martingale MAY work if you are getting VALUE and betting very conservatively but if that's the case there are far better staking plans.

                                      Millions of punters have lost EVERYTHING (many their lives included) trusting Martingale to make them a living. And most of the world's oldest and largest casinos have been built up on fools using the system.

                                      You obviously haven't been in the game long if you honestly believe that you won't have a losing run of 11 or more.
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                                      • bettorjon
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Stumpage
                                        Yes, Pinnacle will allow large wagers (number dependent on the sport, of course). Somebody else mentioned BetFair, which seems like a viable option as well.
                                        thanks for the info.

                                        at least i have other options
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                                        • bettorjon
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                          SBO is up and working for me
                                          never had any problems with withdrawals ... very prompt every time

                                          I understand that the only way to open an account with HKJC is to personally front up in HK and open an account?
                                          weird. sbo is not working on my end.

                                          i checked at wikipedia and saw that sbo is licensed in the philippines. i dunno but maybe the competition of sbo and msw is arising thats why sbo is not working in the ph? i'll try to use other ip address.

                                          thanks
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                                          • bettorjon
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                            One day it may dawn on you that to win in the long term you have to be getting VALUE for your bets.

                                            Martingale MAY work if you are getting VALUE and betting very conservatively but if that's the case there are far better staking plans.

                                            Millions of punters have lost EVERYTHING (many their lives included) trusting Martingale to make them a living. And most of the world's oldest and largest casinos have been built up on fools using the system.

                                            You obviously haven't been in the game long if you honestly believe that you won't have a losing run of 11 or more.
                                            hey man,

                                            thanks for the concern. i totally understand your point. but as ive said, im having a hard time figuring the labby and martingle has the fastest and highest returns of all of the systems.

                                            i have an excellent approach with the system and even a losing record would be profitable at the end of the week.

                                            i hope i wont jinx myself. LOL..but i havent had a losing run of 11 or more in my three years of capping.

                                            my worst was 8 but luckily i won on the 9th try so i still won a huge amount despite a losing record. i maybe out of my mind though. LOL

                                            BOL everyone
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                                            • Hareeba!
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                                              • 07-01-06
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by bettorjon
                                              hey man,

                                              thanks for the concern. i totally understand your point. but as ive said, im having a hard time figuring the labby and martingle has the fastest and highest returns of all of the systems.

                                              i have an excellent approach with the system and even a losing record would be profitable at the end of the week.

                                              i hope i wont jinx myself. LOL..but i havent had a losing run of 11 or more in my three years of capping.

                                              my worst was 8 but luckily i won on the 9th try so i still won a huge amount despite a losing record. i maybe out of my mind though. LOL

                                              BOL everyone
                                              you "won a huge amount" on the 9th bet!
                                              yeah sure, but how much did you have to stake over those nine bets to make that collect?
                                              as I said it is the worst gambling method ever devised
                                              3 years only eh?
                                              and how long do you intend to keep playing like this?
                                              do you have any idea of the concept of value in betting?
                                              as you said "luckily I won" ... pro punters don't rely on luck to win, they rely on maths ... do some research on the net and you should find that maths gives Martingale the thumbs down in a big way.
                                              but as they say "gambling is a tax on the mathematically challenged" so if you are having as much trouble figuring out Labouchere as spelling it then I really do have concerns for your wellbeing
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                                              • Monte
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                                                • 08-21-10
                                                • 2056

                                                #24
                                                You can bet millions on the same game at Pinny if you want, the line might move 1c after the first 100k thou
                                                In other words they let you place as many wagers as you want on the same thing, and if they identify you as square the line prolly won't even move much.
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                                                • Odessa
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                                                  • 06-04-07
                                                  • 398

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by bettorjon
                                                  hey man,

                                                  thanks for the concern. i totally understand your point. but as ive said, im having a hard time figuring the labby and martingle has the fastest and highest returns of all of the systems.

                                                  i have an excellent approach with the system and even a losing record would be profitable at the end of the week.

                                                  i hope i wont jinx myself. LOL..but i havent had a losing run of 11 or more in my three years of capping.

                                                  my worst was 8 but luckily i won on the 9th try so i still won a huge amount despite a losing record. i maybe out of my mind though. LOL

                                                  BOL everyone
                                                  Bettorjon, Can you afford to loose 11 in a row?
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                                                  • jpb383
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 06-14-10
                                                    • 242

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by bettorjon
                                                    hey man thanks for the info. have you already played with these sportsbooks? do they pay without any hassle at all? just wondering because i dont see sbo and hkjc on the sportsbook review page.

                                                    msw ive heard is a good book. i just hope that they accept $10k (450,000 pesos) for a single game.

                                                    btw, i checked sbo but their site is down
                                                    SBO has a lot more liquidity than the other large books depending on the sport you'd need to talk to them to get your limits increased.....
                                                    MSW is very good, and the owners Asianlogic are also good and would take large bets such as 10k
                                                    HKJC you'll need to talk to a rep in the Philippines,
                                                    You may also want to look @ KPC and of course BetFair/BetDaq are somewhat back-ups but not guarantees.
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                                                    • HeeeHAWWWW
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                                                      • 06-13-08
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                                                      #27
                                                      Only 11 in a row? I've lost 14 in a row (avg odds around evens).
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                                                      • bettorjon
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                        you "won a huge amount" on the 9th bet!
                                                        yeah sure, but how much did you have to stake over those nine bets to make that collect?
                                                        if im not mistaken, i loss about 250k pesos (a lil about $5.5k). doubling my staked amount to chase my losses won me a huge amount. as ive said, 1-8 record, a losing record would still be profitable at the end of the day. but just like you, i dont recommend this system to anyone --- only to risk takers.

                                                        Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                        do you have any idea of the concept of value in betting?
                                                        nope. would you be kind enough to explain

                                                        Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                        as you said "luckily I won" ... pro punters don't rely on luck to win, they rely on maths
                                                        i tried a formula in the past to compute for the o/u and +/- for nba. the +/- did great as it went 23-9 but i got a lil tired of doing it for every single game. if i can hire someone who can do it for me, then i'll stick to it for sure. otherwise, i would just base my picks on the teams past games and hopefully i make the right choice.
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                                                        • bettorjon
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jpb383
                                                          SBO has a lot more liquidity than the other large books depending on the sport you'd need to talk to them to get your limits increased.....
                                                          MSW is very good, and the owners Asianlogic are also good and would take large bets such as 10k
                                                          HKJC you'll need to talk to a rep in the Philippines,
                                                          You may also want to look @ KPC and of course BetFair/BetDaq are somewhat back-ups but not guarantees.
                                                          hey man,

                                                          you filipino? how did you know all this info? thanks

                                                          in msw, are you talking about $10k or Php10k? coz theres a huge currency difference between the two. Php 10k bet is already considered as a huge bet here in the philippines. if youre talking about $10k= php 500k then you're on track.

                                                          i dunno why but sbo is not working on my end
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                                                          • bettorjon
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW
                                                            Only 11 in a row? I've lost 14 in a row (avg odds around evens).
                                                            14 in a row? yikes

                                                            but if you did martingle, 1-14 or winning on your 15th bet would still made you profitable despite a forgetable record.

                                                            i just hope you did.

                                                            otherwise, breaking even would be possible to achieve in a short time. even if you win, 10 in a row.

                                                            thats for sure
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                                                            • jpb383
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 06-14-10
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by bettorjon
                                                              hey man,

                                                              you filipino? how did you know all this info? thanks

                                                              in msw, are you talking about $10k or Php10k? coz theres a huge currency difference between the two. Php 10k bet is already considered as a huge bet here in the philippines. if youre talking about $10k= php 500k then you're on track.

                                                              i dunno why but sbo is not working on my end
                                                              I have some knowledge o.o
                                                              and I assume you're talking about 10k USD? if so that's what I'm answering towards
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                                                              • bettorjon
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jpb383
                                                                I have some knowledge o.o
                                                                and I assume you're talking about 10k USD? if so that's what I'm answering towards
                                                                yep 10k usd. its good to hear that all sites mentioned here accept a bet of 10k usd

                                                                appreciate it everyone.

                                                                BOL to all of you
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                                                                • Tomato
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                                                                  • 01-29-09
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Tomato is certain that if you tell a book what you are doing that they will have no problem raising limits for you.
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                                                                  • Hareeba!
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Tomato
                                                                    Tomato is certain that if you tell a book what you are doing that they will have no problem raising limits for you.
                                                                    Indeed!

                                                                    I'd love to be a bookie exclusively getting all a Martingale punter's action
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                                                                    • Arilou
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                                                                      • 07-16-06
                                                                      • 475

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Yes, telling the book explicitly you're doing Martingale can only help, and Pinnacle only has a per-bet limit. If you post the money you can bet it until you break the whole sports betting market (in theory, eventually people stop betting and the odds go to zero). SBO does have a per-game bet size limit, it's an Asian tradition to keep players from taking shots at agents.

                                                                      Anyone who says they'll take infinite over the phone is lying, Greek won't do that unless he likes the other side, but 10k for a square is easy enough to find at Greek and otherwise.
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