Kat I e-mailed charlie I don't believe it..nothing in the rules say anything like that and as of this morning they were stilloffering -103.Unless they changed to bonus or juice like Betonline?
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BBD if this is true an apparently it is .. than I will only play A books again. These people are nothing but liars and con artists. I have it in writing from Charlie that the" -103 will never be changed" and nothing about loosing that if you cash out. If that is the case as soon as complete my rollover I am out.Comment -
I can't believe he doesn't argue the point it says on the main page of their site"-103 odds are standard"Comment -
Ok I"m in from work today and once again have -103 odds. I don't know if it was a glitch (them seem to have a lot of them) or they have read this thread. But I am back to -103 odds.
When I checked the status of my cashout my account yesterday, my account was debited, they e mailed me a tracking number and I had -110.
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Ok I e-mailed Charlie like two hours ago explaining the situation, I haven;t heard back form her. But I think they need to get their you know what together here>Comment -
Glad to see that 24/7. I mean it makes no sense to give that kind of bonus and then raise to 110. You would know people wouldn't be coming back. Like you are forcing someone to be a bonus whore.... did I say that?
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I cashed out $5,000 and my odds have always been at -103.
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I received an anser from Charlie today. Here is how it works if you cash out before your rollover is completed they put you on a -110 juice until you reach your rollover than you go back to -103. If you complete your rollover than you stay at -103. She did say that they had a software glitch yesterday and everyone went to -110 by mistake. They don't move the lines on you unless you take a bonus and dont complete the rollover and cash out some or all of your money before you complete it.It really doesn't say anything about this on the web site..hope this helpsComment -
Thanks for sharing the clarification eyeball... Tis appreciated
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I just heard from Charlie again, it seems something is going on as far as the bonus. It seems Charlie and Joeyr are talking about changing the bonus structure" offering either the -103 or the 30%bonus." ..not both. Nothing has been decided. I guess they cant make any money offerring -103?... I don't know.. I am just passing on the contents of the e-mail.
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Well, it is their house and they make the rules. Got no problems with that.
Just post the new rules clearly on the website when the time comes--and "grandfather" those that have already been playing and haven't cleared WR. All will be well and this time next year they will be C rated book with many more clients.
Well, that is, once the Moneybookers situation is cleared up!!
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Kat she mentioned grandfathering in the original players that jumped in with the 50% bonus and -103. I think they are trying diffrent things to make their book stand out and still make a profit...so far so good. I keep loosing by 1/2 point there lost with xavier today...Comment -
They gave players a taste by offering these easy-money bets but observers are asking them about their long term business plan. I think you will see them try and tighten up and show they can be a viable business. Right now it's a fast paying book that can't beat their players with what they offer. Most books that start this way don't end up retaining players and then beating them.
But most new books don't enter the scene with a 6-figure bailout. They deserve the good press for that and I hope we can upgrade them soon.Comment -
And this is why i asked this question earlier. Having full juice on certain things like 2nd halfs or NHL games is like saying that everything in the store is 90% off except for the chocolate bars in the corner that are full price. Don't get me wrong, i hope they do survive for what they've done but you can't survive giving away this type of money.Comment -
Bill and Cobra are both correct. They deserve some good ink.
Even if they gradually went to a 105 or a 107. Managed correctly, they make money every day.Comment -
BOL has that type of marketting ..... Big bonus or low vig. I think they won't be able to stay at 103 forever. Pinny can't stay there so why should a start up book. That being said I have lost about $1,500 back to them in the last week. Even if they went to 105 they would be heads and shoulders above most other books.Comment -
Joey confirmed to me earlier this morning that they will be switching over to a similar structure as BetOnline, and will be sending out a newsletter via an email. Also, he did inform me that the promo page on the site will be updated as well to reflect the change.Comment -
I don't know about everyone else, but I see this as a positive move for BJO. With reduced juice, you still attract players, but you give yourself a fighting chance. I think the BOL model is sustainable. If that is what they are shooting for--they will make it.
I am still not a fan of the software they are using, but everything else about the place (except the lack of Moneybookers for my Canadian hermanos) is very promising.
If no serious complaints--maybe into the C range in 3 months?Comment -
I talked to Joey about the Moneybookers situation today Katstale. He informed me that they (MB end that is) are really dragging their feet on setting things up. I'm not sure what type of red tape type stuff their is to setting up merchant accounts, but it's starting to get a little ridiculous IMO.Comment -
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BJO is off line Kat. I just hope my 4K cheque clears.Comment