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  • FreeFall
    SBR MVP
    • 02-20-08
    • 3365

    #1
    MatchBook is DEAD
    How do you guys get money down on games in Matchbook? NHL is a graveyard right now. Is it at the point where you have to wait till an hour before game time to get a bet in?
  • RonPaul2008
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-08-07
    • 6741

    #2
    Matchbook is not dead. Maybe for hockey...but most Americans don't bet hockey.
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    • FreeFall
      SBR MVP
      • 02-20-08
      • 3365

      #3
      Prove it or are you like fishhead who just wants to spread lies to get money there.

      Lakers game tonight has ~$500 TOTAL on BOTH sides of the spread currently. Or do Americans not bey NBA either?
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      • eyeball
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 08-14-07
        • 988

        #4
        Originally posted by RonPaul2008
        Matchbook is not dead. Maybe for hockey...but most Americans don't bet hockey.

        I tried to send them some funds by Bank Wire , it took 4 hours for an e-mail back, with instructions. .
        The CS sucks at times...I am out of there
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        • bookie
          SBR MVP
          • 08-10-05
          • 2112

          #5
          Originally posted by eyeball
          I tried to send them some funds by Bank Wire , it took 4 hours for an e-mail back, with instructions. .The CS sucks at times...I am out of there
          You find four hours to be unreasonable?

          -------It does suck, though, even NBA 2H's which were a strong suit last year are hit and miss this. I was hoping the new owners would bring new liquidity, but hasn't happened.
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          • sportsfanatic
            SBR MVP
            • 03-10-07
            • 3967

            #6
            Originally posted by FreeFall
            How do you guys get money down on games in Matchbook? NHL is a graveyard right now. Is it at the point where you have to wait till an hour before game time to get a bet in?
            yup. problem is people are fukking cheap bastards who never put up offers till near game time.

            matchbook is still a must have though. matchbook still has the best odds if you know what you're doing.
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            • philswin
              SBR MVP
              • 04-18-07
              • 1279

              #7
              You cannot solely rely on Matchbook got to have a couple other books, preferably ones that do transfers with MB like 5Dimes
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              • LordVodka
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-17-09
                • 5206

                #8
                I saw $100k on the Giants game the other night but that is rare.

                They have no liquidity.
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                • sportsfanatic
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-10-07
                  • 3967

                  #9
                  liquidity or not, i still manage to get better odds with matchbook the majority of the time than any other book.
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                  • FreeFall
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-20-08
                    • 3365

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LordVodka
                    I saw $100k on the Giants game the other night but that is rare.

                    They have no liquidity.
                    I've seen a cow jump over the moon as well. 1 game out of the 10,000s played a year means nothing to me.
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                    • Peep
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-23-08
                      • 2295

                      #11
                      I think they are good for bases, otherwise not so much......
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                      • Stacocakes
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-10-08
                        • 7126

                        #12
                        People are afraid to put offers up since the site is unstable
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                        • bigugly
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-04-08
                          • 1329

                          #13
                          I would be playing there (and playing some hockey) if there were some better deposit/withdrawal options.
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                          • Chuck Sims
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-29-05
                            • 3072

                            #14
                            Matchbook

                            Over $100,000 on the Chargers(vs Tenn) moneyline offered at Matchbook. Baseball playoffs had huge offers.

                            Last night I bet a total of $10,000 on the Colts during in-game betting.

                            Bet over $5,000 on Rand Paul to win Ky. Senate seat.

                            Bet over $3,000 on Joe Miller to win Alaska Senate seat. Could have bet a lot more on Miller but declined.

                            Bet $2,000 on Sleazy Reid +250 to +275. Bet $3000 on Angle +100 to -120.

                            Apparently not too many people bet hockey.
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                            • Hareeba!
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 07-01-06
                              • 37281

                              #15
                              I'd like to see more liquidity but am now doing about 90% of my US sports business at Matchbook because I can get better odds from them than Pinnacle.
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                              • Pistol7
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 11-02-10
                                • 7

                                #16
                                Originally posted by bigugly
                                I would be playing there (and playing some hockey) if there were some better deposit/withdrawal options.
                                What are the deposit/withdrawal options and cost at Matchbook? I don't see them anywhere on the site.

                                Well for me I'm new to sportsbooks and the odds at Matchbook seem great, I'm definitely considering them. What sites can you transfer to and from Matchbook? I hope Bodogs as that seems to be the most likely SB I'll decide to use.

                                One thing I wonder is if it's possible to do prop betting on non mainstream sports... or parlays? I think you have to ask for stuff like that. I don't think I'll ever see prop or over/under bettings on boxing there. Thus, an other SB (Although Matchbook is an exchange site) seems like a must even if you're going to bet 90% of the time their due to the top-notch lines and low commission/juice.
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                                • Fishhead
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-11-05
                                  • 40179

                                  #17
                                  Bookmaker, BetJamaica, and 5dimes are three quality books one can transfer funds from to MatchBook.

                                  MATCHBOOK, a must out!!
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                                  • RonPaul2008
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-08-07
                                    • 6741

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bigugly
                                    I would be playing there (and playing some hockey) if there were some better deposit/withdrawal options.
                                    Try sportsbook transfer for depositing. I'm not sure what the problem is with withdrawals....
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                                    • sportsfanatic
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-10-07
                                      • 3967

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                      I'd like to see more liquidity but am now doing about 90% of my US sports business at Matchbook because I can get better odds from them than Pinnacle.
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                                      • Salamander
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 12-25-09
                                        • 397

                                        #20
                                        It's really a one of a kind shop, especially when you consider how Betfair rapes you with their high commissions and omg that UGLY premium charge commission, you will cry cry cry if Matchbook goes away, keep supporting it and don't get all huffy and puffy because you couldn't get a hockey bet matched.
                                        sbr
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                                        • SBR_John
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-12-05
                                          • 16471

                                          #21
                                          How is NBA starting out liquidity wise?
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                                          • msdw1
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 02-12-08
                                            • 147

                                            #22
                                            Market makers need to be making sufficient profits via high transaction volume before they are willing to take the risk of getting killed on a big line move. Morning lines are still subject to major moves.
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                                            • Dark Horse
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-14-05
                                              • 13764

                                              #23
                                              This is going the Tradesports way fast.

                                              I said it before. The way to do an exchange right (i.e. solve the liquidity problem) is to create one overarching platform that connects all. Like Wall Street. Just as you can trade stocks through many different outlets, so traders should be able to buy and sell sports bets through different books that all connect to the same platform. The commission is shared by the book and the platform.

                                              The person that sets this up will be very rich. You already got the contacts SBR John... Exchanges are the future; the purest form of bookmaking. As soon as the liquidity problem is solved, everybody will jump on board. But the approach has to be much broader than what we have seen so far.
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                                              • bookie
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 2112

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                This is going the Tradesports way fast.

                                                I said it before. The way to do an exchange right (i.e. solve the liquidity problem) is to create one overarching platform that connects all.
                                                But what existing book, having busted its butt to get a book of -110 players, is going to freely offer them the chance to bet at -103 and cut their hold from three or four percent to whatever Matchbook holds?

                                                And it's not clear that everybody would be aboard because every Saturday and Sunday tens of millions are bet at -110 on football games where the players could get -103 at Matchbook.
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                                                • Fishhead
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-11-05
                                                  • 40179

                                                  #25
                                                  Everyone should have MB in their arsenal............
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                                                  • pjesnik24
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 11-01-05
                                                    • 1286

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                    This is going the Tradesports way fast.

                                                    I said it before. The way to do an exchange right (i.e. solve the liquidity problem) is to create one overarching platform that connects all. Like Wall Street. Just as you can trade stocks through many different outlets, so traders should be able to buy and sell sports bets through different books that all connect to the same platform. The commission is shared by the book and the platform.

                                                    The person that sets this up will be very rich. You already got the contacts SBR John... Exchanges are the future; the purest form of bookmaking. As soon as the liquidity problem is solved, everybody will jump on board. But the approach has to be much broader than what we have seen so far.
                                                    I believe that mansion tried something like that together with low commission and crazy promotion (anybody remember that NFL promotion?) but they failed. people in europe only play at betfair and usually ignore everything else even though they have the highest commission in the market (I know of)
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                                                    • sdtrader
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 01-23-09
                                                      • 536

                                                      #27
                                                      I hope it doesn't go the way of Tradesports, not sure where else I would be able to attempt to make in game trades at for an exchange.
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                                                      • Halifax
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 553

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                        This is going the Tradesports way fast.

                                                        I said it before. The way to do an exchange right (i.e. solve the liquidity problem) is to create one overarching platform that connects all. Like Wall Street. Just as you can trade stocks through many different outlets, so traders should be able to buy and sell sports bets through different books that all connect to the same platform. The commission is shared by the book and the platform.

                                                        The person that sets this up will be very rich. You already got the contacts SBR John... Exchanges are the future; the purest form of bookmaking. As soon as the liquidity problem is solved, everybody will jump on board. But the approach has to be much broader than what we have seen so far.
                                                        This was already tried about 5 or 6 or 7 years ago.

                                                        The group that owned Las Palmas (Horizon 20) was part of it (maybe the main part?), as were a few other books (CRIS maybe?, not sure). I don't think they had a lot of money for start-up/marketing, and it ended up being a complete bust ... no offers equalled no action equalled no profit.

                                                        That's not to say that it could never work, but that attempt never worked.
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                                                        • Halifax
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 553

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by pjesnik24
                                                          I believe that mansion tried something like that together with low commission and crazy promotion (anybody remember that NFL promotion?) but they failed. people in europe only play at betfair and usually ignore everything else even though they have the highest commission in the market (I know of)
                                                          To the best of my knowledge, Mansion never tried that ... if you wanted to bet on the Mansion exchange, you had to set up an account at Mansion.
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                                                          • TodayIsForgotten
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 06-19-06
                                                            • 534

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by sportsfanatic
                                                            yup. problem is people are fukking cheap bastards who never put up offers till near game time.

                                                            matchbook is still a must have though. matchbook still has the best odds if you know what you're doing.
                                                            I don't know man. Making pennies on the dollar isnt really a deal breaker for me. MB has definitely gone downhill some vs 5 years ago. I see way less money on games before and after. It seems to be only the major games get the attention where as 5 years ago there was ample money on lower class games.
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                                                            • Halifax
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 08-10-05
                                                              • 553

                                                              #31
                                                              The way I approach Matchbook is to assume that there will be nothing of value posted until gameday, and in a lot of cases not until an hour or two before gametime. Anything beyond that is gravy.

                                                              Because of this, it's imperative to have more places than just Matchbook to bet at.
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                                                              • Fishhead
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 08-11-05
                                                                • 40179

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Halifax
                                                                The way I approach Matchbook is to assume that there will be nothing of value posted until gameday, and in a lot of cases not until an hour or two before gametime. Anything beyond that is gravy.

                                                                Because of this, it's imperative to have more places than just Matchbook to bet at.

                                                                This sums it up.......now let's move on.
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                                                                • frankthetank
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 08-29-09
                                                                  • 652

                                                                  #33
                                                                  matchbook = wsex
                                                                  wsex = broke
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                                                                  • bigugly
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-04-08
                                                                    • 1329

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by RonPaul2008
                                                                    Try sportsbook transfer for depositing. I'm not sure what the problem is with withdrawals....
                                                                    I don't have any money in 5dimes or betjm right now. So my money would be there for awhile, and I'd feel crappy for just transferring it right out. This is much less convenient than just being able to do a ** or **.
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                                                                    • Chuck Sims
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-29-05
                                                                      • 3072

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by frankthetank
                                                                      matchbook = wsex
                                                                      wsex = broke
                                                                      Hello McFly...WSEX has nothing to do financially with Matchbook.
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