What does "shot taking" "bad lines" or "steam play" means?

[moonbeam]

OK, I understand what a "bad line" is.

But every book that voids your wagers and cuts your limits told you their court judged you are guilty of "take a shot" or for "steam play"

especially US facing books like this BS, never heard this bullsh!t from European books

[Mikail]

It's one of the many ways U.S players are at a huge disadvantage.

[jgilmartin]

An example of steam play is if almost every book on the screen moves from -3 / +3 to -3.5 / +3.5 and you bet it at -3 at a book which is slow to move the line.

[Monte]

lol...come on moonbeam, you know exactly what it means as arber.
They don't like ppl that beat them to the second of a significant line move, there would be more books like WSEX around now i guess if you could just do that in peace.

[Hareeba!]

OK, I understand what a "bad line" is.

But every book that voids your wagers and cuts your limits told you their court judged you are guilty of "take a shot" or for "steam play"

especially US facing books like this BS, never heard this bullsh!t from European books

you may not have heard it expressed in that language (Yankspeak) but sure as hell the Euro books do it and I can't believe you don't know all about it.

[moonbeam]

I don´t hareeba. Which european book (or books) do you mean?

[gangeriver]

I agree with moonbeam, europan books never say to us "this is a bad line" or "there is a steam play" etc...They limited us and some of scumbag highschool student bookies (like bwin) cancel bets. already "bed line" and "steam play" american bettors' slang. by the way what does it mean "take a shot"? really I don't know

[Hareeba!]

I don´t hareeba. Which european book (or books) do you mean?

Every single one of them (excluding exchanges of course) will limit you severely for "steam chasing"

[moonbeam]

I agree with moonbeam, europan books never say to us "this is a bad line" or "there is a steam play" etc...They limited us and some of scumbag highschool student bookies (like bwin) cancel bets. already "bed line" and "steam play" american bettors' slang. by the way what does it mean "take a shot"? really I don't know

I guess "you take a shot at us" is the standard slang for US bookies to void bets (or don´t void losing bets) if they don´t want to pay you and if they they don´t want to have buiseness with you any longer

[moonbeam]

Every single one of them (excluding exchanges of course) will limit you severely for "steam chasing"

It´s ok when a book limits you (for whatever).
It´s not ok if a book acting against their own rules and cheats you like 5Dimes.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/741161-carefull-5-dimes.html

This is pure cheating

Their fuggin CS called me a "shot taker", but in the end they took a shot at me.

Hareeba, in my opinion most european books flagged the sports, not the odds... there are a lot of ways not to become limited with books like willhill, ladbrokes etc

[Hareeba!]

Hareeba, in my opinion most european books flagged the sports, not the odds... there are a lot of ways not to become limited with books like willhill, ladbrokes etc

well maybe I should have spoken to you to learn how to bet on what I wanted to at the best prices available before getting limited at just about every Euro book there is

[moonbeam]

well maybe I should have spoken to you to learn how to bet on what I wanted to at the best prices available before getting limited at just about every Euro book there is

try to act like fool, only bet ONE sport (only tennis, only soccer, only cricket or whatever) and don´t bet more than 150 Euro. Don´t do this arb sh!t.

[dikefale]

Bwin is scumbag shajt they said to me that im addicted gambler and limited my stake at 25 single or live betting and 50 for parlay.
I cant believe that they can make decision that im addict,how the F they could know.

[RonPaul2008]

There is a big difference between taking a shot or playing an obviously bad line - and betting steam.

There is nothing wrong with betting steam, but many books will cut limits and do other things to steam players to limit their losses.

[Hareeba!]

try to act like fool, only bet ONE sport (only tennis, only soccer, only cricket or whatever) and don´t bet more than 150 Euro. Don´t do this arb sh!t.

Firstly I would think betting only one sport might suggest you are a sharp specialist in that sport as opposed to someone betting on everything that moves

I was betting probably 95% tennis when I ran foul of them all but I wouldn't waste that much effort to bet only 150 Euro. And arbs are not my go either - so little reward for so much effort.

[moonbeam]

Firstly I would think betting only one sport might suggest you are a sharp specialist in that sport as opposed to someone betting on everything that moves

I was betting probably 95% tennis when I ran foul of them all but I wouldn't waste that much effort to bet only 150 Euro. And arbs are not my go either - so little reward for so much effort.

I disagree with your first point
But I understand your point of view. It´s a pain.
But it´s the only way to last that long imo

[king]

Why would they cancel a bet if the lines have moved. The average person doesn't have access to know if the lines are moved and just made a bet. I for one don't look or know when the lines move, I just place my bet as I see it. Sure it would suck for me if the lines would be in my favor 5 minutes later, you don't see me complaining, but would the book cancel the bet and tell you there are better new lines. No they won't they would happily take the bet and cancel any bet that is not in their favor.

Now I am in no way saying this ever happen to me as it never did but from reading your comments about the book canceling the wager is pure bs.

[goblue12]

Sportsbook.com basically clones bwin for soccer and tennis.

Shot takers / arbers / steam chasers can murder them in that dept.

[lukahh]

try to act like fool, only bet ONE sport (only tennis, only soccer, only cricket or whatever) and don´t bet more than 150 Euro. Don´t do this arb sh!t.

i have not been limited at several eu books despite avoiding -EV bets. there must be more to the limiting customers than just circling out +ev bettors.

[andywend]

Their fuggin CS called me a "shot taker", but in the end they took a shot at me.

Moonbeam, you are the very definition of a SHOT TAKER. You do it all the time and then have the nerve to trash the books when they won't let you get away with it.