justin7 and pinny

dimon · 09-13-10, 01:47 PM

books will do whatever they think is good to them

Dark Horse · 09-13-10, 02:00 PM

Pinnacle already knew they were beaten. I doubt many books would recognize that upfront. Interesting anecdote.

BigDaddy · 09-13-10, 02:03 PM

i need to get this book.

wrongturn · 09-13-10, 02:04 PM

It is typical Pinny's way to handle the situation: Sir, we can honor these bets if you insist, but then we will have to close your account, which way do you choose?

durito · 09-13-10, 02:22 PM

pinny thinks they are god and can do whatever ever they want. like their live soccer wagers policy to delete whichever wagers they want at their discretion.

Dark Horse · 09-13-10, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by durito

pinny thinks they are god and can do whatever ever they want. like their live soccer wagers policy to delete whichever wagers they want at their discretion.

for real?

Raven66 · 09-13-10, 02:36 PM

Pinny can do what they want because they are the BEST MOFO'S!

Justin7 · 09-13-10, 03:17 PM

The default would be 1. honor wagers, and close the account.

They gave me an alternative: 2. void those pending wagers, and keep account open.

#1 was legal for them
#2 was by my choice.

A book is free to keep or toss any player they want. While it can be frustrating as a player, this was perfectly fair. I'm also glad I had this choice, rather than lose the ability to play with them.

Justin7 · 09-13-10, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by durito

pinny thinks they are god and can do whatever ever they want. like their live soccer wagers policy to delete whichever wagers they want at their discretion.

I've actually heard this from more than one person (about canceling live soccer wagers).

durito · 09-13-10, 03:37 PM

That cancel account and keep the wager is for bad lines. Why were these considered bad line? What was their std teaser payout odds at the time?

Justin7 · 09-13-10, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by durito

That cancel account and keep the wager is for bad lines. Why were these considered bad line? What was their std teaser payout odds at the time?

The lines weren't bad. They just didn't want me to bet teasers at those odds (+700 on 6-teamers), especially during pre-season. They later disabled all my teasers and parlays (and nearly every book I have played at has limited me in some manner on teasers).

moonbeam · 09-13-10, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by durito

That cancel account and keep the wager is for bad lines. Why were these considered bad line? What was their std teaser payout odds at the time?

Not only for bad lines. Also for their live betting soccer lines as you described durito

evo34 · 09-13-10, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by trixtrix

early on in justin's book, he described a situation where he bet several 6 team +700 6pt teasers in pinny b/c he thought that was a good price. henry from pinny then threatened to lock his acct unless he agrees to cancel all his teasers, robbing him of a potential 5 digit win. my question is, how is that not considered a foul?

What is Justin's book? Link?

bookie · 09-13-10, 05:00 PM

Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/Conquering-Risk-Attacking-Vegas-Street/dp/1450723004/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1284415179&sr=8-1

You can also get it from the SBR points store.

trixtrix · 09-13-10, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

The lines weren't bad. They just didn't want me to bet teasers at those odds (+700 on 6-teamers), especially during pre-season. They later disabled all my teasers and parlays (and nearly every book I have played at has limited me in some manner on teasers).

this, the line was not bad, pinny advertised to take on ALL comers, why was there even a choice to begin w/?

they should've honoured the bets then disabled your teasers if they feel disadvantaged, but let you keep your acct

moonbeam · 09-13-10, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by bookie

http://www.amazon.com/Conquering-Ris...4415179&sr=8-1

You can also get it from the SBR points store.

lol

aggie · 09-13-10, 05:42 PM

so justin agreed for those wagers not to stand. out of curiosity: were they winners at the end of the day?

moonbeam · 09-13-10, 05:52 PM

justin has resolved so many complaints here. Now he get ****** with an A+ book. That´s tragic

Justin7 · 09-13-10, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by moonbeam

justin has resolved so many complaints here. Now he get ****** with an A+ book. That´s tragic

I wasn't. I have plenty of gentleman's agreements with different books. We talk, we reach an agreement, and I keep playing. Pinnacle, Greek, Bookmaker. It's par for the course with pro books.

I still play at Pinnacle, and giving up 5k or so in EV is a cheap cost to keep that out. That, and it was early enough that I could rebet it at other places.

moonbeam · 09-13-10, 06:02 PM

ok, good to hear that.

"When Pinnacle offers a scalp versus the whole market, the market is often wrong"

Not really.

Justin7 · 09-13-10, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by moonbeam

ok, good to hear that.

"When Pinnacle offers a scalp versus the whole market, the market is often wrong"

Not really.

Soccer, no. But in many US sports.

lukahh · 09-13-10, 06:51 PM

does pinnacle ever cancel any wager?
i recall betting on a line which was off, and wager was honored. i didn't abuse it though, just my standard 3-figure wager. i did think of betting the max twice and scalp it off for 10% profit, but didn't do it at the end.

moonbeam · 09-13-10, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by lukahh

does pinnacle ever cancel any wager?
i recall betting on a line which was off, and wager was honored. i didn't abuse it though, just my standard 3-figure wager. i did think of betting the max twice and scalp it off for 10% profit, but didn't do it at the end.

Pinnacle cancel wagers. Sometimes they called them a "late" bet. In live betting they void the bets because of their "danger zone" rule

-105 · 09-13-10, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by lukahh

does pinnacle ever cancel any wager? i recall betting on a line which was off, and wager was honored. i didn't abuse it though, just my standard 3-figure wager. i did think of betting the max twice and scalp it off for 10% profit, but didn't do it at the end.

Your a good little square

durito · 09-14-10, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

The lines weren't bad. They just didn't want me to bet teasers at those odds (+700 on 6-teamers), especially during pre-season. They later disabled all my teasers and parlays (and nearly every book I have played at has limited me in some manner on teasers).

they don't even offer pre-season teasers anymore

skrtelfan · 09-14-10, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by lukahh

does pinnacle ever cancel any wager?
i recall betting on a line which was off, and wager was honored. i didn't abuse it though, just my standard 3-figure wager. i did think of betting the max twice and scalp it off for 10% profit, but didn't do it at the end.

I've had CFB and CBB openers canceled because they made a typo, and it was impossible to know the line was "bad" because no other book had a line out yet.