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  • make$take$
    SBR Sharp
    • 06-15-10
    • 333

    #1
    Rebate Wager, why dont u want customers to stay?
    No soccer parlays, no pre-season NFL parlays, no more than 3 dogs in a parlay. I spoke to customer service about increasing my limits and they told me to wait one month and they would double it. Then after a month they told me, well u only deposited 500 and cashed out 1650 so we wont be increasing your limits. No dime lines (for me anyway). It's nice that they pay out quick but if that is all u have going then ur going belly up. I would like to try and keep taking ur $ but I'm afraid w/ such terrible options u will be done soon so I think I will keep that part of my roll in a real book from here on out.
  • big joe 1212
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-01-08
    • 19380

    #2
    horrible lines
    bad customer service
    cold calling now

    the only thing that is good about them is quick payouts
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    • Mudcat
      Restricted User
      • 07-21-05
      • 9287

      #3
      They did increase my limits when I had been there a month. They doubled them but they were so low to begin with, doubling them only brought them to what I would call a minimal level.
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      • HedgeHog
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-11-07
        • 10128

        #4
        I've never seen a more chicken outfit. They are afraid of anyone winning big. Instead they should be embracing parlays and big dog players, assuming their lines are in check with other Books. RW will never amount to much in my opinion.

        PS They won't allow rollovers to begin until regular season NFL kicks off, so there's currently no incentive to deposit at RW. In addition to being chicken-shit, they're just plain dumb.
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        • do5000
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 06-06-08
          • 853

          #5
          no more than 3 dogs in a parlay is crazy. thats a rule at the PH sportsbook in vegas
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          • Bill Dozer
            www.twitter.com/BillDozer
            • 07-12-05
            • 10894

            #6
            Originally posted by Mudcat
            They did increase my limits when I had been there a month. They doubled them but they were so low to begin with, doubling them only brought them to what I would call a minimal level.
            Why did you bet there to begin with?
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            • Bill Dozer
              www.twitter.com/BillDozer
              • 07-12-05
              • 10894

              #7
              Originally posted by make$take$
              No soccer parlays, no pre-season NFL parlays, no more than 3 dogs in a parlay. I spoke to customer service about increasing my limits and they told me to wait one month and they would double it. Then after a month they told me, well u only deposited 500 and cashed out 1650 so we wont be increasing your limits. No dime lines (for me anyway). It's nice that they pay out quick but if that is all u have going then ur going belly up. I would like to try and keep taking ur $ but I'm afraid w/ such terrible options u will be done soon so I think I will keep that part of my roll in a real book from here on out.
              They are a solid book but agree the options and wagering menu are not big. We expect to see them expand this NFL season.
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              • -105
                SBR High Roller
                • 07-20-10
                • 208

                #8
                Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                Why did you bet there to begin with?
                This happened to me too, when you deposit there is no way you think 250$ max bet, they made it 500 for me right away cause i complained but i quickly moved on after the first rebate.
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                • BLACKIE
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 09-25-09
                  • 430

                  #9
                  I have made a lot of money over the years following a model I believe in. That's not gonna change anytime soon. Our primary focus at RW is recreational players with an emphasis on major US sports. I'm quite happy picking up a couple hundred new players each year that fall into this category. For those of you looking for more options plenty of good books up top. If your looking for bigger limits it's easy to get them with us just make a bigger deposit. If you can't come up with a dime to bet 500 upfront then take a 4x rollover or forgoe our standard rebates. Our products not for everyone but for those players betting major us sports the 50% cash rebates and free next day payouts are hard to beat.
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                  • BLACKIE
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 09-25-09
                    • 430

                    #10
                    Originally posted by big joe 1212
                    horrible lines
                    bad customer service
                    cold calling now

                    the only thing that is good about them is quick payouts
                    Send me an email through the players lounge. I'd like to know where we failed you with our customer service. As far as our lines they look good to me and we don't make a habit out of cold calling. We call our member base once a year to inform them of our first football bonuses and unpublished specials just for members. So if you are an active member we would have called you in the last week to infirm you that if you have red figure but our down overall for the year that figures was zeroed out for the upcoming year. We also wanted to let our members know that their losses from last year will count towards a bigger rebate for this year. And as far as I'm concerned the most important this about a book is it's payouts. Anyway I'm out for the day. Look forward to chatting some more in the future.
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                    • rook
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 07-06-10
                      • 211

                      #11
                      sounds like a bad booker, stay out of them
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                      • Richkas
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-03-08
                        • 19396

                        #12
                        Their CS is outstanding.
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                        • Smoke
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-09-09
                          • 48111

                          #13
                          when i first joined RW earlier this year, for the first month they limited me to only $150 per wager which is chump change to me but i went with it anyway cause i was doin mostly parlays, i called them about it and they told me after 1 month i can get my limits raised to $1,000 per game which is what i wanted, well the month had passed i called them and told them i wanted my limits raised and they said they would give my request to the manager, i get a email the next day and they only increased it to $250 per game yet when i joined they said after a month i could get it increased to $1,000 per game. Add to that they only allow a $500 maximum withdrawal via **, thats bullshit.

                          Bottom line is rebate wager is a great book for the small time player, they offer free payouts and you will always get paid. But if bet a nickel, dime, or more per game like me this is not the book to play at.
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                          • forsberg21
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-23-09
                            • 1851

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BLACKIE
                            I have made a lot of money over the years following a model I believe in. That's not gonna change anytime soon. Our primary focus at RW is recreational players with an emphasis on major US sports. I'm quite happy picking up a couple hundred new players each year that fall into this category. For those of you looking for more options plenty of good books up top. If your looking for bigger limits it's easy to get them with us just make a bigger deposit. If you can't come up with a dime to bet 500 upfront then take a 4x rollover or forgoe our standard rebates. Our products not for everyone but for those players betting major us sports the 50% cash rebates and free next day payouts are hard to beat.
                            Meaning, they cater only to losing players. Since you took them for a dime, that's why they didn't increase your limits. I made a thread about Rebate Wager and the dangers of playing with them if you're Canadian. Check it out:

                            Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


                            If you deposit big with these guys and start losing, of course the customer service will be A+. But, if you plan on winning on your bets, there are other, better, books to park your money.
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                            • make$take$
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 06-15-10
                              • 333

                              #15
                              The thing is they would make more $ if they let people bet how they want. How many people after a tough loss say fvck it I'm betting the rest on the late game? How much $ is lost on tarded parlays? Sure some hit big but not enough to even it out. They target losers w/ the rebate aspect but then force better strategy and money management on them. That is what I find most frustrating. I personally would attempt to strike at the few things I felt strong about w/ increased limits and have a little fun w/ less strict parlays. But so many more people would do what 95%+ of gamblers do and hang themselves.

                              Those r some of the cons but I will say fastest/easiest payout and I personally found the customer service to be as helpful as they were allowed to be w/ the rules that r in place. They don't always tell me what I want to hear, but they r nice and speedy w/ what they can do.

                              I would rather have a book that wont give me a hassle about payouts than one w/ mad options but is a pain in the ass w/ payouts. That being said there r plenty reputable books that have both
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                              • vitalyo
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-05-07
                                • 1615

                                #16
                                Our primary focus at RW is recreational players with an emphasis on major US sports. I'm quite happy picking up a couple hundred new players each year that fall into this category. For those of you looking for more options plenty of good books up top.
                                This is hilarious .
                                The owner is advising you to bet with some other book .
                                I had never seen anything like this before . He basically said we are a shit book !
                                LOL .
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                                • -105
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 07-20-10
                                  • 208

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by vitalyo
                                  This is hilarious .
                                  The owner is advising you to bet with some other book .
                                  I had never seen anything like this before . He basically said we are a shit book !
                                  LOL .
                                  No, what he is saying that the product he offers is not in competition with books that pretend to cater to people with an IQ higher than 85. He flat out tells you I only want retards buying in. He wants to sell you what he has at a very profitable price with no risk. If he was a drug dealer he would sell you grams for max profit but if you wanted an ounce you would have to go elsewhere. He doesn't want to risk getting robbed even though selling an ounce is less work and your buyers are smarter therefore more competent therefore less turnover. This doesn't change the bottom line, and the bottom line is what it is all about. It blows my mind how people play on a site where the owner posts and says " i only want the stupidest of the stupid"

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                                  • thechaoz
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-23-09
                                    • 12154

                                    #18
                                    lol well at least he is honest. Not a site for me
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                                    • Slim
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-13-08
                                      • 4722

                                      #19
                                      Only good thing about them is debit card payouts.
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                                      • HedgeHog
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-11-07
                                        • 10128

                                        #20
                                        RW is actually catering to losers, giving them a % of their losses --which they figure will be played back and lost anyway. You won't beat their 20 cent lines in the long run, so why not opt for a Book with 10 cent lines and more betting options (i.e. 5D or BP). RW puts more needless restrictions on how you can bet (limiting dogs in pars) and when you can bet (rollover doesn't count until mid-Sept) than any other place I know. So basically, it's a Book for suckers run by idiots.


                                        PS If my last sentence is too offensive for this forum, feel free to change it to:

                                        So basically, RW is a Book for the betting challenged run by the business challenged.
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                                        • bachngocduong
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-17-06
                                          • 1826

                                          #21
                                          they're limits like shittt
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                                          • BLACKIE
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 09-25-09
                                            • 430

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                            RW is actually catering to losers, giving them a % of their losses --which they figure will be played back and lost anyway. You won't beat their 20 cent lines in the long run, so why not opt for a Book with 10 cent lines and more betting options (i.e. 5D or BP). RW puts more needless restrictions on how you can bet (limiting dogs in pars) and when you can bet (rollover doesn't count until mid-Sept) than any other place I know. So basically, it's a Book for suckers run by idiots.


                                            PS If my last sentence is too offensive for this forum, feel free to change it to:

                                            So basically, RW is a Book for the betting challenged run by the business challenged.


                                            Just curious hedgehog how big is your house and what kind of car do you drive? Your scalping games all day at $50 a pop. Wonder who the idiot is?
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                                            • pat venditto
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 05-07-07
                                              • 14347

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                              Just curious hedgehog how big is your house and what kind of car do you drive? Your scalping games all day at $50 a pop. Wonder who the idiot is?

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                                              • MonkeyF0cker
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 06-12-07
                                                • 12144

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                Why did you bet there to begin with?
                                                Good question, Bill. Why does anyone?
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                                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 06-12-07
                                                  • 12144

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                  Wonder who the idiot is?
                                                  The guy who continuously attacks posters for stating facts about his highly SBR-overrated sportsbook?
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                                                  • BLACKIE
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 09-25-09
                                                    • 430

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                    The guy who continuously attacks posters for stating facts about his highly SBR-overrated sportsbook?
                                                    Still riding my nuts I see. Shouldn't you be out there picking 50% winners. The guy called me an idiot I just responded. When I lived in las Vegas I'd still be up with a bunch of hotties from last night. It seems all you do is follow my posts and threads on the forums. Are you a gay web stalker? Seriously dude you write about me in more then one forum. Sorry dude I like chicks, hot ones. Get a life.
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                                                    • HedgeHog
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-11-07
                                                      • 10128

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                      Just curious hedgehog how big is your house and what kind of car do you drive? Your scalping games all day at $50 a pop. Wonder who the idiot is?
                                                      FWIW: House is average and truck is old but runs great. More importantly: Winning $50-$100 per day by any means is beter than playing to recover 1/4 or 1/2 my losses at a full juice, low options Book.

                                                      PS If I read your post right, you're quite wealthy due to the suckers that play at RW? Way to insult your clientele.
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                                                      • BLACKIE
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 09-25-09
                                                        • 430

                                                        #28
                                                        You call me an idiot for running a successful business that caters to rec players that get 50% cash back when they lose and paid the next day when they win. If you don't like my model fine but I'm far from an idiot.
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                                                        • oiler
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-06-09
                                                          • 6585

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                          I have made a lot of money over the years following a model I believe in. That's not gonna change anytime soon. Our primary focus at RW is recreational players with an emphasis on major US sports. I'm quite happy picking up a couple hundred new players each year that fall into this category. For those of you looking for more options plenty of good books up top. If your looking for bigger limits it's easy to get them with us just make a bigger deposit. If you can't come up with a dime to bet 500 upfront then take a 4x rollover or forgoe our standard rebates. Our products not for everyone but for those players betting major us sports the 50% cash rebates and free next day payouts are hard to beat.
                                                          you sound like your running for office,thats the biggest bunch of bullshit ive ever heard.u can take your cracker jack outfit and shoove it up your ass
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                                                          • HedgeHog
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-11-07
                                                            • 10128

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                            You call me an idiot for running a successful business that caters to rec players that get 50% cash back when they lose and paid the next day when they win. If you don't like my model fine but I'm far from an idiot.
                                                            For a guy that is sooooo focused on wealth, and spare us the details of your many houses and cars, you missed a golden opportunity to make more sucker money. By limiting the way people can bet your juiced up lines and restricting rollover until reg-NFL, you're leaving a lot of $$$$$$$ on the table. As a business model, yes I would call that idiotic.
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                                                            • Ian
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 11-09-09
                                                              • 6073

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                              Still riding my nuts I see. Shouldn't you be out there picking 50% winners. The guy called me an idiot I just responded. When I lived in las Vegas I'd still be up with a bunch of hotties from last night. It seems all you do is follow my posts and threads on the forums. Are you a gay web stalker? Seriously dude you write about me in more then one forum. Sorry dude I like chicks, hot ones. Get a life.
                                                              I like Rebate Wager. Their CS is phenomenal as are their promotions. However, posts like the one quoted above reflect poorly on the company as a whole. Blackie, bragging about the chicks you used to bang and calling overexcited posters "gay web stalkers" will do nothing to bring in new customers.
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                                                              • MonkeyF0cker
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 06-12-07
                                                                • 12144

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                                Still riding my nuts I see. Shouldn't you be out there picking 50% winners. The guy called me an idiot I just responded. When I lived in las Vegas I'd still be up with a bunch of hotties from last night. It seems all you do is follow my posts and threads on the forums. Are you a gay web stalker? Seriously dude you write about me in more then one forum. Sorry dude I like chicks, hot ones. Get a life.
                                                                Solid post. Thanks for taking the bait. I think I've proven my point.
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                                                                • BLACKIE
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 09-25-09
                                                                  • 430

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Ian
                                                                  I like Rebate Wager. Their CS is phenomenal as are their promotions. However, posts like the one quoted above reflect poorly on the company as a whole. Blackie, bragging about the chicks you used to bang and calling overexcited posters "gay web stalkers" will do nothing to bring in new customers.
                                                                  Ian,

                                                                  I have a history with the poster in question. They guy claims to be big Vegas gambler but spends every minute he gets talking about me in this forum and others. I'm just stating the facts. Guy spent something like 20 some hours posting about me in the last few months. I just find that a bit strange considering he isn't a customer and has never played with me.
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                                                                  • BLACKIE
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 09-25-09
                                                                    • 430

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                                    Solid post. Thanks for taking the bait. I think I've proven my point.
                                                                    One last thing Mr. Vegas big timer. Shouldn't you be making money rather then trying to bait me. I think your priorities are a bit messed up.
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                                                                    • B1GER1C828
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-31-07
                                                                      • 10244

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by BLACKIE
                                                                      Still riding my nuts I see. Shouldn't you be out there picking 50% winners. The guy called me an idiot I just responded. When I lived in las Vegas I'd still be up with a bunch of hotties from last night. It seems all you do is follow my posts and threads on the forums. Are you a gay web stalker? Seriously dude you write about me in more then one forum. Sorry dude I like chicks, hot ones. Get a life.
                                                                      very professional

                                                                      I like rebate wager though. Only played there from winnings from BTP last year but CS were great, lines were ehhh, rest was good. I never got to withdrawal but im sure it would have gone smoothly.
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