Sincere LARGE bettor needs help deciding

[robgenius]

Hi guys...i have over 25k that i will be using for NHL this upcoming year.

should i go GREEK OR BOOKMAKER?

any help is greatly appreciated...not that much of an expert for online sportsbooks you know.

good luck to you all and thanks for the responses.

[durito]

Use both.

[Hareeba!]

Use both.

have both but you really should open an account at Matchbook too and if you want the best odds that's where you'll place almost all your bets

[cinpls081]

have both but you really should open an account at Matchbook too and if you want the best odds that's where you'll place almost all your bets

You should have accounts at sportsbook.com (best lines) matchbook(betst odds) 5dimes(good odds many options) and wagerchief (free half point)

You should in now way have an account with bookmaker you will win less and lose more there lines are horrid. There is no reason to have an account with them they steal from you ever time you make a wager

[vyomguy]

You should have accounts at sportsbook.com (best lines) matchbook(betst odds) 5dimes(good odds many options) and wagerchief (free half point)

You should in now way have an account with bookmaker you will win less and lose more there lines are horrid. There is no reason to have an account with them they steal from you ever time you make a wager

Dumbest post I have ever read at SBR. First of all you go and recommend books like sportsbook.com, wagerchief and 5 dimes...all of which are scam books which stiff you when you win and limit you when you win....after that you go on and say bookmaker is horrid.

Let me get the facts straight:-

- If you are a big player, never ever play in sportsbook.com, wagerchief and 5 dimes. If you win they will limit you and kick you out. Plus they are known to be stiffs and there are several complaints on these 3 books. Just do a simple search in this forum.

- If you are a big player in US, the only 3 books you should consider are Greek, Matchbook and Bookmaker.

- But there is an exception in case of MLB. Greek and Bookmaker dont have good lines for MLB. So, matchbook is the best out for MLB. For all the remaining sports all 3 books Greek, Bookmaker and Matchbook are good.

- You get the best odds with Matchbook. But you cant do things like parlay, teasers etc... only straight bets....this is because its an exchange.

- Greek and Bookmaker are regular books and pay you when you win. They have the highest limits and all the big players play in these books.

Now, to the original poster's question....i would suggest you to have accounts in greek, bookmaker and matchbook. Get the best line on any bet. Each of these 3 books have its own pros and cons. So, use them to your advantage.

- Bookmaker has the highest limits and you can always get in on the action unlike matchbook where your bet needs to be matched.

- Greek allows you to buy off -3 to -2.5 in football. Bookmaker doesn't. Greek also has 12-14 point teaser which bookmaker doesn't.

- Bookmaker has the best User Interface and Customer Service.

- Bookmaker deposit options are easy...you can use credit card. In greek, you cant use credit card...**/** is the main option.

- Greek has the fastest and cheap withdrawals. They pay you quick. Its easier to take your money out in greek instead of depositing.

- Matchbook has the best odds. But they lack in betting options and their liquidity is low.

As I mentioned earlier...greek, bookmaker and matchbook all have pros and cons. But these 3 are must outs for a big player in US. Use all three of them to your advantage. Good Luck.

[lyon804]

Dumbest post I have ever read at SBR. First of all you go and recommend books like sportsbook.com, wagerchief and 5 dimes...all of which are scam books which stiff you when you win and limit you when you win....after that you go on and say bookmaker is horrid.

Let me get the facts straight:-

- If you are a big player, never ever play in sportsbook.com, wagerchief and 5 dimes. If you win they will limit you and kick you out. Plus they are known to be stiffs and there are several complaints on these 3 books. Just do a simple search in this forum.

- If you are a big player in US, the only 3 books you should consider are Greek, Matchbook and Bookmaker.

- But there is an exception in case of MLB. Greek and Bookmaker dont have good lines for MLB. So, matchbook is the best out for MLB. For all the remaining sports all 3 books Greek, Bookmaker and Matchbook are good.

- You get the best odds with Matchbook. But you cant do things like parlay, teasers etc... only straight bets....this is because its an exchange.

- Greek and Bookmaker are regular books and pay you when you win. They have the highest limits and all the big players play in these books.

Now, to the original poster's question....i would suggest you to have accounts in greek, bookmaker and matchbook. Get the best line on any bet. Each of these 3 books have its own pros and cons. So, use them to your advantage.

- Bookmaker has the highest limits and you can always get in on the action unlike matchbook where your bet needs to be matched.

- Greek allows you to buy off -3 to -2.5 in football. Bookmaker doesn't. Greek also has 12-14 point teaser which bookmaker doesn't.

- Bookmaker has the best User Interface and Customer Service.

- Bookmaker deposit options are easy...you can use credit card. In greek, you cant use credit card...**/** is the main option.

- Greek has the fastest and cheap withdrawals. They pay you quick. Its easier to take your money out in greek instead of depositing.

- Matchbook has the best odds. But they lack in betting options and their liquidity is low.

As I mentioned earlier...greek, bookmaker and matchbook all have pros and cons. But these 3 are must outs for a big player in US. Use all three of them to your advantage. Good Luck.

Sharpest post I think I have read from you. You must really be a gambler.

[Santo]

Don't think equating 5 Dimes with Sportsbook is fair, they have far less negative history, mostly just bad CS.

[SRBI]

If you're a big player you either live in Vegas or have a local, a special local, cause a lot of them won't take over 1k a game.

The population of big players betting with off-shore books online, maybe less than 5%.

[SRBI]

Don't think equating 5 Dimes with Sportsbook is fair, they have far less negative history, mostly just bad CS.

5dimes is just as bad, they cut your limits when you win, they hassle you when you want a payout, and worst of all (at least from my experience) they always freakin remove soccer matches I tend to wanna unload on then give me some bullshit about it was removed because of a bad line or something or other, its garbage, all of it.

[Peep]

Me thinks the OP is kidding.

Anyone who doesn't realize the value of multiple outs to get a half a point here or there needs to take gambling 101 over again before they make even a 25 cent bet.

[Max009]

Hi guys...i have over 25k that i will be using for NHL this upcoming year.

should i go GREEK OR BOOKMAKER?

any help is greatly appreciated...not that much of an expert for online sportsbooks you know.

good luck to you all and thanks for the responses.

Parlaymakers is a good option. Good wager limits and great lines (better than the Greek or Bookmaker). Excellent out for US players. Instant payouts back to your ewallet for more control of your money.

[korbal29]

how come nobody is talking about betjamaica

[vyomguy]

how come nobody is talking about betjamaica

Betjamaica and Greek are the same. If you win too much in betjamaica, they will send you to Greek.

[cinpls081]

Dumbest post I have ever read at SBR. First of all you go and recommend books like sportsbook.com, wagerchief and 5 dimes...all of which are scam books which stiff you when you win and limit you when you win....after that you go on and say bookmaker is horrid.

Let me get the facts straight:-

- If you are a big player, never ever play in sportsbook.com, wagerchief and 5 dimes. If you win they will limit you and kick you out. Plus they are known to be stiffs and there are several complaints on these 3 books. Just do a simple search in this forum.

- If you are a big player in US, the only 3 books you should consider are Greek, Matchbook and Bookmaker.

- But there is an exception in case of MLB. Greek and Bookmaker dont have good lines for MLB. So, matchbook is the best out for MLB. For all the remaining sports all 3 books Greek, Bookmaker and Matchbook are good.

- You get the best odds with Matchbook. But you cant do things like parlay, teasers etc... only straight bets....this is because its an exchange.

- Greek and Bookmaker are regular books and pay you when you win. They have the highest limits and all the big players play in these books.

Now, to the original poster's question....i would suggest you to have accounts in greek, bookmaker and matchbook. Get the best line on any bet. Each of these 3 books have its own pros and cons. So, use them to your advantage.

- Bookmaker has the highest limits and you can always get in on the action unlike matchbook where your bet needs to be matched.

- Greek allows you to buy off -3 to -2.5 in football. Bookmaker doesn't. Greek also has 12-14 point teaser which bookmaker doesn't.

- Bookmaker has the best User Interface and Customer Service.

- Bookmaker deposit options are easy...you can use credit card. In greek, you cant use credit card...**/** is the main option.

- Greek has the fastest and cheap withdrawals. They pay you quick. Its easier to take your money out in greek instead of depositing.

- Matchbook has the best odds. But they lack in betting options and their liquidity is low.

As I mentioned earlier...greek, bookmaker and matchbook all have pros and cons. But these 3 are must outs for a big player in US. Use all three of them to your advantage. Good Luck.

First off if someone has 20K they are not a big bettor... Maybe 500/1000 per game. You are clueless and obviously just don't get it...I'm sorry... If you are a big bettor there is only one way to play VEGAS or with a local so anyone that asks this question just doesn't understand. How can you get down 5dimes per game game at any of these places? How do you go about getting paid?

[boxcar]

bookmaker's stated max is 5 dimes. Easy to get 5 dimes down there and can get more if you call. Add Matchbook and with NHL being a smaller sport there maybe you get down another 3-5 dimes. 3 more at the Greek, again more if you want to call. They all pay reliably. No one with any sizeable roll should play at 5 Dimes or Sportsbook. You obviously have never had one.

[Carlito7]

So which sportsbook is good for a non-US citizen for the higher bankrolls ?!

[goldengreek]

You should have accounts at sportsbook.com (best lines) matchbook(betst odds) 5dimes(good odds many options) and wagerchief (free half point)

You should in now way have an account with bookmaker you will win less and lose more there lines are horrid. There is no reason to have an account with them they steal from you ever time you make a wager

NOT sbook.com !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[heyman]

Let me get the facts straight:-
- If you are a big player, never ever play in sportsbook.com, wagerchief and 5 dimes.

Yes.

If you win they will limit you and kick you out. Plus they are known to be stiffs and there are several complaints on these 3 books. Just do a simple search in this forum.

No. Cutting limits, picking clients is their right. 5Dimes hasn't stiffed anyone who was playing by the rules.

[vyomguy]

So which sportsbook is good for a non-US citizen for the higher bankrolls ?!

For non-us...its Pinncale.....its actually the best sportsbook in the world.

[vyomguy]

First off if someone has 20K they are not a big bettor... Maybe 500/1000 per game. You are clueless and obviously just don't get it...I'm sorry... If you are a big bettor there is only one way to play VEGAS or with a local so anyone that asks this question just doesn't understand. How can you get down 5dimes per game game at any of these places? How do you go about getting paid?

Dude, you have no idea about online sportsbooks. You can bet upto 20k on one game in Bookmaker for an NFL game. For NBA, MLB, NHL you can bet upto 5k on one game in bookmaker. And you get paid when you win and they wont cut your limits.

[Hareeba!]

Dude, you have no idea about online sportsbooks. You can bet upto 20k on one game in Bookmaker for an NFL game. For NBA, MLB, NHL you can bet upto 5k on one game in bookmaker. And you get paid when you win and they wont cut your limits.

and even more at Piinnacle and at better odds to boot!

sorry but Vegas is somewhat inconvenient from the other side of the world

[cinpls081]

Dude, you have no idea about online sportsbooks. You can bet upto 20k on one game in Bookmaker for an NFL game. For NBA, MLB, NHL you can bet upto 5k on one game in bookmaker. And you get paid when you win and they wont cut your limits.

I have more then an idea.

#1 SOmeone who is going to put 20K into a book isn't a big player.
#2 Someone who has 20K online is going to bet maybe 2K per game.
#3 If you bet 20 games in a week for 5k each and go 15 and 5 how do you think you get paid? With a 3k check that you have to pay for.

Bookmaker is a complete joke you win less and pay more. Play with a local for half the juice much larger limits. I can get down 50k on any game and when i win i'm paid in cash.

If somoen is going to put 20k online they are small time and will be fine at any of these place.

[cinpls081]

bookmaker's stated max is 5 dimes. Easy to get 5 dimes down there and can get more if you call. Add Matchbook and with NHL being a smaller sport there maybe you get down another 3-5 dimes. 3 more at the Greek, again more if you want to call. They all pay reliably. No one with any sizeable roll should play at 5 Dimes or Sportsbook. You obviously have never had one.

20k isn't a big bankroll you fool. The only place to play at is local or vegas if you are playing 5k plus bets. How would you ever get paid in US. I have huge balance much bigger then 20k at matchbook and i have ONE OPTION 3k check THATS IT. How would you like to be paid if you win 50k in a week sir???????????????????????? What will your fees be and what great lines you have a bookmaker....CLOWN

[lyon804]

Win 50K in a week? Huh? The only locals that could pay that routinely are Mafia or have some type of affiliation with them. At the same time they would just soon to shoot you behind your right ear with a small caliber hand gun than become your ATM. Maybe, I just don't know the right locals, but the 3 I know in a large US city have considerable trouble paying out winnings alot less than 50K in a week.

[heyman]

I have huge balance much bigger then 20k at matchbook and i have ONE OPTION 3k check THATS IT.

Wrong. Email them.

[boxcar]

20k isn't a big bankroll you fool. The only place to play at is local or vegas if you are playing 5k plus bets. How would you ever get paid in US. I have huge balance much bigger then 20k at matchbook and i have ONE OPTION 3k check THATS IT. How would you like to be paid if you win 50k in a week sir???????????????????????? What will your fees be and what great lines you have a bookmaker....CLOWN

Not helping yourself here. If you really were winning that kind of dough at MB you'd know they do wire transfers for their bigger customers. BM does unlimited wires as well. I don't believe a single word you've written.

[cinpls081]

win 50k in a week? Huh? The only locals that could pay that routinely are mafia or have some type of affiliation with them. At the same time they would just soon to shoot you behind your right ear with a small caliber hand gun than become your atm. Maybe, i just don't know the right locals, but the 3 i know in a large us city have considerable trouble paying out winnings alot less than 50k in a week.

clueless

[cinpls081]

Not helping yourself here. If you really were winning that kind of dough at MB you'd know they do wire transfers for their bigger customers. BM does unlimited wires as well. I don't believe a single word you've written.

I wire transfer WOW 9k is make you moron what do you do when you need 50k? Let the government know you are getting a wire from god knows where.

You guys are clueless honeslty. Sending a guy to bookmaker the biggest crooks in the industry.

[Monte]

20k isn't a big bankroll you fool. The only place to play at is local or vegas if you are playing 5k plus bets. How would you ever get paid in US. I have huge balance much bigger then 20k at matchbook and i have ONE OPTION 3k check THATS IT. How would you like to be paid if you win 50k in a week sir???????????????????????? What will your fees be and what great lines you have a bookmaker....CLOWN

You make yourself look like a fool with this post.
Locals that take 5k plus bets don't grow on trees you know, millionaires rarely run such outfits.
20k is a lot of money for most people, "big" is not something you can define by your standards only.
Bookmaker may not be the best book on the planet when it comes to the vig and fees, but they always pay, have early lines and take a bet without bs. Btw even for mlb BM sometimes has a good line, every book that doesn't copy Pinnacle on every single move is worth having an account at...coz Matchbook odds usually follow Pinny, obviously.

[mtneer1212]

Put 5K in matchbook, and 7.5K in Bookmaker and Greek.

[DBurton81]

First of all....why in the hell would you put 25K on a sport like NHL?

[MexicanStallion]

First of all....why in the hell would you put 25K on a sport like NHL?

He probably follows it and has some success with it

[pronk]

So which sportsbook is good for a non-US citizen for the higher bankrolls ?!

Pinny and betfair.

[linedrivr]

Dumbest post I have ever read at SBR. First of all you go and recommend books like sportsbook.com, wagerchief and 5 dimes...all of which are scam books which stiff you when you win and limit you when you win....after that you go on and say bookmaker is horrid.

Let me get the facts straight:-

- If you are a big player, never ever play in sportsbook.com, wagerchief and 5 dimes. If you win they will limit you and kick you out. Plus they are known to be stiffs and there are several complaints on these 3 books. Just do a simple search in this forum.

- If you are a big player in US, the only 3 books you should consider are Greek, Matchbook and Bookmaker.

- But there is an exception in case of MLB. Greek and Bookmaker dont have good lines for MLB. So, matchbook is the best out for MLB. For all the remaining sports all 3 books Greek, Bookmaker and Matchbook are good.

- You get the best odds with Matchbook. But you cant do things like parlay, teasers etc... only straight bets....this is because its an exchange.

- Greek and Bookmaker are regular books and pay you when you win. They have the highest limits and all the big players play in these books.

Now, to the original poster's question....i would suggest you to have accounts in greek, bookmaker and matchbook. Get the best line on any bet. Each of these 3 books have its own pros and cons. So, use them to your advantage.

- Bookmaker has the highest limits and you can always get in on the action unlike matchbook where your bet needs to be matched.

- Greek allows you to buy off -3 to -2.5 in football. Bookmaker doesn't. Greek also has 12-14 point teaser which bookmaker doesn't.

- Bookmaker has the best User Interface and Customer Service.

- Bookmaker deposit options are easy...you can use credit card. In greek, you cant use credit card...**/** is the main option.

- Greek has the fastest and cheap withdrawals. They pay you quick. Its easier to take your money out in greek instead of depositing.

- Matchbook has the best odds. But they lack in betting options and their liquidity is low.

As I mentioned earlier...greek, bookmaker and matchbook all have pros and cons. But these 3 are must outs for a big player in US. Use all three of them to your advantage. Good Luck.

excellent post as everything he states here is spot on.

[linedrivr]

Put 5K in matchbook, and 7.5K in Bookmaker and Greek.

where do you recommend he put the remaining 5k?