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  • albo gator
    SBR High Roller
    • 01-23-10
    • 142

    #1
    HR Bill 2267
    Does anyone think it is possible for the passage of HR 2267 to allow for an intrastate sportsbetting site in the state of Nevada?

    It will be very interesting to see how things shake out and what companies emerge as the US industry leaders. I really think that Nevada will be an interesting state to watch as they have always been the nations' leaders when it comes to most forms of gambling. I posted this in another thread and I think it is germane as it would seem that HR 2267 might be considered a green light to start things with intrastate gambling:

    Here in Nevada there are a couple of small things regarding sports betting that people outside of Nevada are unaware of. First off, the Stations Casino Corp. has online sports betting offered to Nevada residents. I believe the daily total that can be wagered in $1000 or less. You have to set up the account in a Stations casino and fund it there as well. Also of note, Leroy's (a sportsbook that subleases space in various casinos statewide and advertises itself as the largest sportsbook in Nevada) accepts bets over phone lines. There is some sort of pager or something that the bet has to come from and only works in some radius from the center of Las Vegas that covers Clark County I believe.

    Anyway, I think this probably does give states where sports gambling is legal (i.e for sure Nevada and maybe Delaware) the ability to set up much larger operations in the examples I gave. The question will be would this put into jeopardy their ability to get a national license at some point because they are associated with online sports gambling. For instance I don't think that MGM or Caesar's (Harrah's soon to be new operating name) who would stand to be the biggest poker licensees might not risk having an online sports betting intrastate site for Nevadans only. But there will be a market for a lesser name like Leroy's to try and do that since they would probably estimate that their share of the poker market would be very low and it would be more profitable to offer an online sportsbetting site for Nevadans.

    Are there any other Nevada residents or legal experts that have any opinions as to how they think all of this will shake out specifically in the one state that has always been most friendly to gamblers (with regard to b&m casinos anyway).

    My guess is that the top 5 US poker sites 5 years from now will all be major casino names MGM-Mirage, Caesar's (Harrah's), Wynn, ......

    Does anyone think casinos with lesser names like South Point, M, Stations Casinos, Coast Casinos might opt to go for an intrastate online sports betting system?
  • username474
    SBR Sharp
    • 01-09-09
    • 480

    #2
    I think almost every casino will have a skin, but they will be connected to larger networks. Sort of like Cake is now.
    Sports betting has a way to go. If New Jersey and the other states that filed suit against the Fed. get the Bradley Act overturned, then it will be up to the states to decide. I am sure for example the major B&M sportsbook operations like Leroy's will try to get licenced in the participating states.
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    • sharpcat
      Restricted User
      • 12-19-09
      • 4516

      #3
      The "Interstate Wire Act" of 1961 specifically states that sports wagers may not be accepted through a wire. In order for sports betting to benefit from this bill the wire act will need to be overturned and for any state other than nevada to accept full on sports wagering the "Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act"of 1992 would need to be overturned.

      This bill is more likely to hurt us as sports gamblers than it is going to help us since the law will not allow sites who have allowed gambling illegally to participate all of our beloved sports books could be shutout.
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      • albo gator
        SBR High Roller
        • 01-23-10
        • 142

        #4
        I am familiar with the Wire Act but guess I figured with Stations Casinos doing what they do online:



        And with Leroy's phone betting:

        http://www.eog.com/news/full-article.aspx?id=34100 (see paragraph 3 regarding remote betting and phone accounts)

        Is that not a way were Nevada companies could manage to create intrastate online internet sports betting for Nevada citizens? It may not seem like much to non-Nevada residents but it could serve as a bit of a foot in the door -- albeit a very small foot -- for other states in the future.

        Do you guys think there will be a proliferation of this in Nevada?
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        • idontlikerocks
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-09-07
          • 571

          #5
          thanks for the information. am wondering if the wire act can be circumvented through the use of cell phones?
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          • Climate
            SBR Sharp
            • 01-22-07
            • 345

            #6
            They should just do the stuff nationwide and tax it. Everybody wins that way.
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            • Hareeba!
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 07-01-06
              • 37279

              #7
              I've never been to America but always wanted to. The idea of taking 2-3 months touring about has been on my mind for some time but the more I read about all this crap the less inclined I am to follow it through. I wouldn't be able to use BetFair or Pinnacle and some others so I wouldn't be able to pay for my trip whilst having it! Europe is looking a lot more enticing.
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              • username474
                SBR Sharp
                • 01-09-09
                • 480

                #8
                Originally posted by Hareeba!
                I've never been to America but always wanted to. The idea of taking 2-3 months touring about has been on my mind for some time but the more I read about all this crap the less inclined I am to follow it through. I wouldn't be able to use BetFair or Pinnacle and some others so I wouldn't be able to pay for my trip whilst having it! Europe is looking a lot more enticing.
                Use a VPN connection to your home country and you would be fine.
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                • Hareeba!
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 07-01-06
                  • 37279

                  #9
                  Originally posted by username474
                  Use a VPN connection to your home country and you would be fine.

                  I've heard of Betfair being able to detect such tricks and close customers down. Not worth the risk.
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                  • alling
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-13-10
                    • 1405

                    #10
                    Stations has online betting? One more reason for me to move to Nevada.
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                    • Thremp
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-23-07
                      • 2067

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hareeba!
                      I've heard of Betfair being able to detect such tricks and close customers down. Not worth the risk.
                      Its because they suck at it.
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