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  • dynamite140
    SBR MVP
    • 07-05-08
    • 4958

    #1
    Is there any point of playing anywhere else but Matchbook?
    I have accounts at pretty much all the sportsbooks. Matchbook, 5dimes, thegreek, betjamaica, bodog, bookmaker and even WSEX.

    For someone who will bet only football and some NBA and MLB, is there any reason to play anywhere else but matchbook? I was thinking about depositing money into a lot of the books but it seems matchbook has the best line price for every of these sports.

    For example if you bet an NFL game, you see -110 at all the other books whereas matchbook has -105/+104 and when you add the 0.7% commission or so you pay -106/+103 on the bet. Sometimes you see -114/+113 in the lines etc but those lines are almost always better than the other books.

    The only books i want to put money in at the moment are matchbook, 5dimes, betjamaica and bodog.. I wanted to put around $3000 into matchbook, $2000 into 5dimes and $1500 or so in betjamaica and about $1500 into bodog but then thought wouldn't it be pointless to put any money in betjamaica? The only thing i like about betjamaica is that the site looks very clean and that you get 1 free payout per month by cashier check and 1 by bank wire i read on the sbrreview. The reason i want to put money into bodog is because when football season comes, you get good lines if you bet an underdog. Like you get a team +7 whereas +6.5 in the book other books. Also they give 1 free check cashout a month.

    Also, i noticed there are many arbs in baseball that you can do with bodog and matchbook though you probably make only $1.25 if you risked $100 at bodog/matchbook to do the arb when the line is like +115/-114. I also noticed many times when i see +120 at bodog for a line and -115 on matchbook for some nfl halftime games because bodog likes to juice lines and you can make an easy profit though its for pennies.

    I use to bet around $50-$500 a game. Average bet was $100 or $200 usually. I am down about $12,000 lifetime and want to win my money back slowly. Most of my losses were from baseball 2 years ago and i had no clue what i was doing and just betting huge favorites like $500 to win $250 etc and thats how i lost most of my money back then. I recalled i blew like $6000 in 6 weeks of baseball betting back in 2008 and quit betting baseball afterwards. This was at matchbook. The other amount i lost was from basketball and football though those losses were from a couple of year span.

    I'm basically a feel player. I do not know any math. You can call me your average joe except AT THE MOMENT, i hate betting square plays now as oppose to a few years ago when i lost a lot of money. I have a tendency to bet on games that are fishy lines now. Like if it looks like a sucker bet, I would bet the other side mainly because one side looks too easy. That is how i would start betting now as oppose to betting like a square.

    If i bet baseball again, I would just make sure i bet on fishy lines and take the opposite side. I would bet underdogs with plus money like betting 2 dogs and hoping one of them would hit. Or bet favorites EXCEPT ALWAYS take them on the Runline for plus money. I am making sure i never would lay $500 to win $200 again because that is real stupid from what i see myself did. And if i did bet baseball, i always see matchbook has the best lines. Like they have +130 whereas other books have +120 or +125.

    Would you guys say its just better for me to deposit everything into matchbook based on what I described myself? I also regretted 4 years ago creating a 5dimes account and choosing the matchplay bonus as oppose to reduced juice because my reduced juice is $50 max although i can do the bet multiple times if i wait like 5 minutes etc. I haven't done that many $500 bets but if i had the reduced juice, it definitely helps now if i decide to bet these amounts now. I really wished i had the $500 reduced juice on 5dimes as oppose to the $50 reduced juice limit though it might save me from wagering too much . That is the main reason why i definitely feel i should have money at 5dimes because of the reduced juice. Paying -105 is way better than the -110 at betjamaica and bodog etc.

    Matchbook regular checks are $9 i think and that is great too though back then they use to give free checks. The thing that i kind of don't want to put all my money in there is because the site crashes a lot and also i hear people talk about liquidity there. Is that ever a problem if you are talking about NFL, NBA and MLB? Because sometimes i see MLB or NBA totals and see very few money put on a game even like 5 minutes before the game.

    Most importantly, i bet all my games probably 5 minutes to 1 hour before a game starts and all my bets are based on who I feel should win. I plan to bet around $100-$500 a game this time around.

    Thoughts on if i should spread my money in the other books or just put the majority of it on matchbook?

    Thanks everyone.
  • ICE-BLOOD
    SBR MVP
    • 07-21-08
    • 1004

    #2
    better to have many books

    you will have a wider variety of wagering options
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    • HedgeHog
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-11-07
      • 10128

      #3
      Why would you limit yourself to just one Book.? MB is great but I often find better prices at 5-Dimes (reduced juice) and BetPhoenix.
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      • crinkle
        SBR High Roller
        • 12-20-07
        • 208

        #4
        Before you place another wager you need to accept the fact that probably 97 to 99% of gamblers lose their money. Of course there are a handful of wise guys out there who know how to turn a profit at this crap but the rest have no shot and to think you can randomly pick and choose a fishy line that over time will turn you a profit is probably more like a pipe dream than anything else. Think about it unless you really know what you're doing you're going to get clobbered over time betting sports. The outcomes are random and that's why +500 ML's cash from time to time. They don't have to win that often to clip your bankroll as you've experienced betting -250 favorites in baseball. Do yourself a favor and do the math on just how many bets you have to win at specific odds (based on 100 bets at those odds) to turn a profit. Then you will realize just how impossible it is to make money. You could absolutely make better INVESTMENTS than gambling on sports. Don't chase your 12K you probably will never see that money again.

        Good luck and be smart with your money because if not you could lose it all.
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        • u21c3f6
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-17-09
          • 790

          #5
          To my knowledge, it is very infrequent that there are better lines than Matchbook for very long. However, I think it is important for you to have at least one other book (especially if you hedge your wagers) for those more than infrequent times when Matchbook is down or frozen.

          Joe.
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          • John Dough
            SBR MVP
            • 09-21-05
            • 1785

            #6
            Matchbook is great on game day for major sports, but there are times where MB has no liquidity. They also lack certain options traditional sportsbooks offer. How about openers? Props? Teasers? Early week football?

            I understand most of you are likely small, recreational bettors who bet on gameday, if not closer to a game's start time, but sharp bettors use lots of outs, not just MB and one other book in case MB is down.
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            • Sawyer
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-01-09
              • 7761

              #7
              Matchbook is a must-have. But it's good to have other books (TheGreek, Betjamaica) as well in order to take advantage of overnight lines, parlays etc.
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              • Chuck Sims
                SBR MVP
                • 12-29-05
                • 3072

                #8
                Matchbook

                Matchbook is a must out. You look at Bet Jamaica and see a 30 cent spread on some MLB runlines. Matchbook has a 1 cent spread.

                You save a ton on NFL/NBA moneylines.

                Yes, you should have other sportsbooks for opening numbers, props, and arbs.
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                • Peeig
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 02-06-08
                  • 567

                  #9
                  I never play at matchbook, I prefer far softer books
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                  • joe blow
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 05-09-06
                    • 775

                    #10
                    To answer the question of this post...If you bet parlays,then you need other out.
                    I use matckbook and 5 dimes.that's all i need
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                    • dynamite140
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-05-08
                      • 4958

                      #11
                      anyone else? Yes i thought matchbook and 5dimes is all i need too but betjamaica and bodog looks good too especially bodog for football underdogs.
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                      • Chuck Sims
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-29-05
                        • 3072

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dynamite140
                        anyone else? Yes i thought matchbook and 5dimes is all i need too but betjamaica and bodog looks good too especially bodog for football underdogs.
                        Many threads about Matchbook being a must out. I think some posters are just burnt out answering the question or commenting on it.
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                        • Thremp
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-23-07
                          • 2067

                          #13
                          Matchbook is almost completely useless for me.
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                          • trixtrix
                            Restricted User
                            • 04-13-06
                            • 1897

                            #14
                            op be prepared to lose, winning your losses back is a dangerous notion to carry going into this based on what you described so far of your experiences.
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                            • unusialsusp5
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-18-10
                              • 4198

                              #15
                              sounds like you have enuf money and just want action. use matchbook bodog and bet jamaica and compare and play.
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                              • Chuck Sims
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-29-05
                                • 3072

                                #16
                                Got the Celtics +310. Will now take the Lakers -258 at Matchbook. Very nice profit with no risk.
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                                • jackkkk2009
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-13-09
                                  • 1183

                                  #17
                                  for US major sports. Matchbook, 5dimes, thegreek and betjamaica are must have books. if you are a non US player, you can have pinnacle too
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                                  • John Dough
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-21-05
                                    • 1785

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Chuck Sims
                                    Got the Celtics +310. Will now take the Lakers -258 at Matchbook. Very nice profit with no risk.
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                                    • andywend
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 05-20-07
                                      • 4805

                                      #19
                                      How much time elapsed between taking the Celtics @ +310 and the Lakers @ -258?

                                      Assuming they were done at the same time or close to it, then kudos on the arb.

                                      If there was a significant amount of time between the wagers, then you really can't say there was no risk as the line happened to move in your favor.
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                                      • John Dough
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-21-05
                                        • 1785

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by andywend
                                        How much time elapsed between taking the Celtics @ +310 and the Lakers @ -258?

                                        Assuming they were done at the same time or close to it, then kudos on the arb.

                                        If there was a significant amount of time between the wagers, then you really can't say there was no risk as the line happened to move in your favor.
                                        The bigger issue is that BOS +310 was a great bet... which he then sucked the EV out of by scalping it back.

                                        I assumed he took BOS +310 early and then came back with LA, but even if they were placed simultaneously, it was still a mistake not to stay long on BOS. You don't want to be scalping out of your great #'s unless you've intentionally overbet them with the intention of scalping the extra back and only keeping the amount you would normally bet.
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                                        • KC
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-12-07
                                          • 1613

                                          #21
                                          My action is 80% MB
                                          5D for stuff like NASCAR golf etc.
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                                          • Chuck Sims
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-29-05
                                            • 3072

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by andywend
                                            How much time elapsed between taking the Celtics @ +310 and the Lakers @ -258?

                                            Assuming they were done at the same time or close to it, then kudos on the arb.

                                            If there was a significant amount of time between the wagers, then you really can't say there was no risk as the line happened to move in your favor.
                                            You're right. I took some risk that the line would drop. Celtics +310 was bet Wed morning.
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                                            • dynamite140
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-05-08
                                              • 4958

                                              #23
                                              I am only betting baseball games on matchbook and sometimes 5dimes since almost all the other books like bodog, sportsinteraction, legends, betphoenix seems to have horrible baseball lines. But for NFL and NBA, does anyone think having books like legends , sia , betphoenix to be useful? I mean the juice in all these books are -110 and -105 for betphoenix but does having this many books necessary? I think matchbook will have the best lines in terms of juice for nfl and nba. Only downside is if matchbook is down and you need to bet with another book which i have 5dimes for.
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                                              • Chuck Sims
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-29-05
                                                • 3072

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                Why would you limit yourself to just one Book.? MB is great but I often find better prices at 5-Dimes (reduced juice) and BetPhoenix.
                                                No you don't. I have reduced juice at 5Dimes. They set their lines outside of Matchbook offers.

                                                I look at 5Dimes lines and make a better offer at Matchbook. Its accepted everytime with 0% commission because I made the offer.
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                                                • BigDaddy
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 02-01-06
                                                  • 8378

                                                  #25
                                                  yes many good reasons to have more than just matchbook as an out.
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                                                  • PRC
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 10-22-09
                                                    • 576

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Thremp
                                                    Matchbook is almost completely useless for me.
                                                    Huh? I thought you did this for a living. I don't see how they can be useless to someone whose income is derived from gambling.
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                                                    • Fthenorm
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 10-20-07
                                                      • 712

                                                      #27
                                                      matchbook liquidity on non major sports such as tennis can be weak
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                                                      • dynamite140
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-05-08
                                                        • 4958

                                                        #28
                                                        Well the only sports i bet on are NFL, NBA and MLB. I don't watch the other sports nor know anything about it.
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                                                        • limitation
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 01-25-09
                                                          • 747

                                                          #29
                                                          5dimes reduced lines are awesome too. Spread your money at 5dimes and matchbook.
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                                                          • dynamite140
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-05-08
                                                            • 4958

                                                            #30
                                                            I was an idiot and took the freeplay bonus as oppose to the reduced juice many years ago and only have max $50 for reduced juice though i could bet it a few times...
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                                                            • blackf1re
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 01-31-10
                                                              • 487

                                                              #31
                                                              Why would you ever only want to play at one book? Tough to win longterm that way. I got 50+ accounts and always pick the best price via Oddsportal.com.
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                                                              • KC
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-12-07
                                                                • 1613

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by limitation
                                                                5dimes reduced lines are awesome too. Spread your money at 5dimes and matchbook.
                                                                Agreed I really just use 5D for nascar, golf, a little bases but MB is the best
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                                                                • BiGTonyHAHA
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 07-11-10
                                                                  • 223

                                                                  #33
                                                                  sports betting is a investement do not ever put your eggs all in one basket
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                                                                  • Fishhead
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 08-11-05
                                                                    • 40179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    If one isn't smart enough to understand that MB is a must out, their NUMBER ONE goal in this business/hobby is not to make money.

                                                                    Which is fine, to each their own.
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                                                                    • Robber
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 10-21-09
                                                                      • 6432

                                                                      #35
                                                                      yes for arbitrage
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