first of all its i dont have a bet in this case, im just bringing it to the public. Game played yesterday night. It started with delay of 50 mins due to riots of fans. Then it was suspended for 1 hour in 24 min or so. But they played further. And finally with 1,03 min left game was suspended and not continued due to riots again. Score was 76-69 in favor of Pao. Today federation decided to count it as 20-0 win for Pao.
Situation is following: BetFair has rules that game has to be played for 35 mins in european basket with total of 40 mins to count the bet. As Moneyline bets will obvious go in favor for Pao as they are the winner, that should be ok. Unfortunately they settle also Totals market. And they settle it as under. Well but according to their rules final outcome should be determined prior to interruption of a game. But how can you know if it will be an over or under with total line of 149.5 and score 76-69/1.03 min left/ Not to mention there were 2 fts to be shoot at that point. If score was 80-90 then its definitely an over. But now not.
So this is how come some people bet big money on low odds because posibility for over was big - let say 80% or 90 %. Here is copy/paste from betfairs forum. If some moderator can contact betfair to resettle totals bets as void, then it will be ok. Once again i dont have a bet on that market!
Last_Prophet Joined: 06 Jun 10
Replies: 26 07 Jun 10 05:05
After this match i read all Betfair NEW rules and i didnt find any rules who aplie to under/over,handicaps,totals and all others specials bets... only rules aplied to winner market....
From tennis :
If the market is '' who will win set 2 '' and a player forfait ALL BETS for set 2 IS VOIDED + ALL HANDICAPS +3.5 or 4.5 are VOIDED , ALL TOTALS GAMES ARE VOIDED !!!! but the winner of match will be setlled !
Same thing is here :
The rules 35 minutes aplied on winner market and Panathinaikos must win the match...
THE PROBLEM IS UNDER/OVER must BE VOIDED by the rules aplied in tennis !
I mentioned match was canceled with 1.03 seconds before end and 2 free trows supose to loading so OVER big chance to be made at that score....
Betfair didnt touch this market BUT normaly they easy find answer in RULES and bets MUST BE VOIDED even if is almost certanly OVER will win !
Any experts and betfair managers are pleased to answer and to VOID this markets UNDER/OVER and settled Panatinaikos winners by 35 min rules..
Any experts are welcome to comment situation because some ''mafia guys'' was matched odds on under/over at 35 minuts after refs canceled match + Betfair suspended VERY LATE and some good new customers may be trap by the ''mafia betting" guys ...
Please Betfair take attitude and VOID UNDER/OVER bets i am not ready to lose 750 euros on a steal trap market!!!
Txs
Last_Prophet Joined: 06 Jun 10
Replies: 26 07 Jun 10 05:25
No answer at mails yet i am getting nervous 750 euro blocked in this market for no reason ..i supose to win on OVERS 1000 euro or something and now they didnt VOID the bets to give me back my money...
Please Betfair aplied rules AND VOID UNDER OVER
dan33 Joined: 12 Mar 06
Replies: 85 07 Jun 10 12:45
The rules here are pretty clear:
If a match starts but is later abandoned or postponed then, within three days of the scheduled start date, (a) at least 43 minutes of play must have elapsed in any NBA match or 35 minutes of play must have elapsed in any other match; or (b) an official result must be 'called' by the relevant governing body; otherwise all bets will be void, except for those on markets which have been unconditionally determined. In these instances, if the scores are tied then dead heat rules will apply to bets on the outright match winner market.
More than 35 minutes have been played, therefore all markets will be settled, including the total points market where "Unders" will be settled as the winner.
Nachete
Joined: 30 Oct 07
Replies: 80 07 Jun 10 15:19
Seems this market has also been SETTLED. But this is crazy, as the final score, suspending the match with a minute left to play, is not even 69-75, but 0-20 !!!!! Due to a federation's decision.
In this case, bets for Under/Over should be voided. Settling this market under such abnormal conditions is definitely not correct.
BETFAIR = UNFAIR
Situation is following: BetFair has rules that game has to be played for 35 mins in european basket with total of 40 mins to count the bet. As Moneyline bets will obvious go in favor for Pao as they are the winner, that should be ok. Unfortunately they settle also Totals market. And they settle it as under. Well but according to their rules final outcome should be determined prior to interruption of a game. But how can you know if it will be an over or under with total line of 149.5 and score 76-69/1.03 min left/ Not to mention there were 2 fts to be shoot at that point. If score was 80-90 then its definitely an over. But now not.
So this is how come some people bet big money on low odds because posibility for over was big - let say 80% or 90 %. Here is copy/paste from betfairs forum. If some moderator can contact betfair to resettle totals bets as void, then it will be ok. Once again i dont have a bet on that market!
Last_Prophet Joined: 06 Jun 10
Replies: 26 07 Jun 10 05:05
After this match i read all Betfair NEW rules and i didnt find any rules who aplie to under/over,handicaps,totals and all others specials bets... only rules aplied to winner market....
From tennis :
If the market is '' who will win set 2 '' and a player forfait ALL BETS for set 2 IS VOIDED + ALL HANDICAPS +3.5 or 4.5 are VOIDED , ALL TOTALS GAMES ARE VOIDED !!!! but the winner of match will be setlled !
Same thing is here :
The rules 35 minutes aplied on winner market and Panathinaikos must win the match...
THE PROBLEM IS UNDER/OVER must BE VOIDED by the rules aplied in tennis !
I mentioned match was canceled with 1.03 seconds before end and 2 free trows supose to loading so OVER big chance to be made at that score....
Betfair didnt touch this market BUT normaly they easy find answer in RULES and bets MUST BE VOIDED even if is almost certanly OVER will win !
Any experts and betfair managers are pleased to answer and to VOID this markets UNDER/OVER and settled Panatinaikos winners by 35 min rules..
Any experts are welcome to comment situation because some ''mafia guys'' was matched odds on under/over at 35 minuts after refs canceled match + Betfair suspended VERY LATE and some good new customers may be trap by the ''mafia betting" guys ...
Please Betfair take attitude and VOID UNDER/OVER bets i am not ready to lose 750 euros on a steal trap market!!!
Txs
Last_Prophet Joined: 06 Jun 10
Replies: 26 07 Jun 10 05:25
No answer at mails yet i am getting nervous 750 euro blocked in this market for no reason ..i supose to win on OVERS 1000 euro or something and now they didnt VOID the bets to give me back my money...
Please Betfair aplied rules AND VOID UNDER OVER
dan33 Joined: 12 Mar 06
Replies: 85 07 Jun 10 12:45
The rules here are pretty clear:
If a match starts but is later abandoned or postponed then, within three days of the scheduled start date, (a) at least 43 minutes of play must have elapsed in any NBA match or 35 minutes of play must have elapsed in any other match; or (b) an official result must be 'called' by the relevant governing body; otherwise all bets will be void, except for those on markets which have been unconditionally determined. In these instances, if the scores are tied then dead heat rules will apply to bets on the outright match winner market.
More than 35 minutes have been played, therefore all markets will be settled, including the total points market where "Unders" will be settled as the winner.
Nachete
Joined: 30 Oct 07
Replies: 80 07 Jun 10 15:19
Seems this market has also been SETTLED. But this is crazy, as the final score, suspending the match with a minute left to play, is not even 69-75, but 0-20 !!!!! Due to a federation's decision.
In this case, bets for Under/Over should be voided. Settling this market under such abnormal conditions is definitely not correct.
BETFAIR = UNFAIR
