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  • robzilla
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    #36
    Originally posted by Rollins08
    Do you think people should be free to do whatever they want? Thats what it sounds like.
    No i think laws should be equal for everyone.
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    • Rollins08
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      • 04-20-07
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      #37
      They are equal for everyone. Anyone over age can go to vegas and gamble, anyone can play lottery, anyone can go to AC and gamble. Nobody can gamble online.
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      • Jamie_UK
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        #38
        Originally posted by Rollins08
        They are equal for everyone. Anyone over age can go to vegas and gamble, anyone can play lottery, anyone can go to AC and gamble. Nobody can gamble online.

        Thats not strictly true, you must have the means to travel and stay in Vegas, and enough play money for the duration of your stay, so the law enables those with the means, but exempts those who dont have the means for a trip, yet may want to have a $20 parlay on a few football teams at the weekend .
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        • Rollins08
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          #39
          Originally posted by Jamie_UK
          Thats not strictly true, you must have the means to travel and stay in Vegas, and enough play money for the duration of your stay, so the law enables those with the means, but exempts those who dont have the means for a trip, yet may want to have a $20 parlay on a few football teams at the weekend .
          Oh, so now your fighting for the rights of the poor gamblers of the US. That is very noble of you. How about the viewpoint that the poor people should not be gambling? Maybe if they don't have money to take a trip and want to place a $20 bet so bad they should think of moving to vegas. Its one of the fastest growing cities in the US and there are plenty of jobs. Also we both know that anyone who wants to bet can anyway, so this whole arguement is insane.
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          • robzilla
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            #40
            Originally posted by Rollins08
            Oh, so now your fighting for the rights of the poor gamblers of the US. That is very noble of you. How about the viewpoint that the poor people should not be gambling? Maybe if they don't have money to take a trip and want to place a $20 bet so bad they should think of moving to vegas. Its one of the fastest growing cities in the US and there are plenty of jobs. Also we both know that anyone who wants to bet can anyway, so this whole arguement is insane.
            Poor people should have the right same right to gamble as some who isnt poor
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            • old threads
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              #41
              Tell us again Jamie how the British had World War II wrapped up and the USA just came aboard to get into the victory parade. In the meanwhile here are some of Prince Philip's best quotes. One can't help but wonder if Jamie UK writes for him, sort of a "ghost foot in mouth" writer.


              Discussing the London traffic issue in 2002 - "The problem with London is the tourists. They cause the congestion. If we could just stop tourism, we could stop the congestion."

              On the primary troubles in Brazil - "Brazilians live there."

              On the culinary prowess of British women - "British women can't cook."

              Whilst in Kenya to a native woman who had presented him with a small gift - "You are a woman, aren't you?"

              To British students in China - "If you stay here much longer, you'll all get slitty-eyed."

              To a driving instructor in Scotland - "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to get them through the test?"

              To young deaf people in Cardiff, referring to a school's steel band - "Deaf? If you are near there, no wonder you are deaf."

              To a blind woman with a guide dog - "Do you know they have eating dogs for the anorexic now?"

              To the President of Nigeria, who was dressed in traditional robes - "You look like you're ready for bed!"

              To Lord Taylor of Warwick, who is black - "And what exotic part of the world do you come from?"

              To an Aboriginal man in Australia - "Do you still throw spears at each other?"
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              • Willie Bee
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                • 02-14-06
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                #42
                Originally posted by robzilla
                No i think laws should be equal for everyone.
                So the laws in Quebec are exactly the same as they are in Alberta and from one province to another across Canada?
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                • robzilla
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by Rollins08
                  They are equal for everyone. Anyone over age can go to vegas and gamble, anyone can play lottery, anyone can go to AC and gamble. Nobody can gamble online.
                  playing the lottery is still gambling. you can be addicted to playing the lottery just as you can wagering on sports.
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                  • Jamie_UK
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                    • 01-12-07
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by Rollins08
                    Oh, so now your fighting for the rights of the poor gamblers of the US. That is very noble of you. How about the viewpoint that the poor people should not be gambling? Maybe if they don't have money to take a trip and want to place a $20 bet so bad they should think of moving to vegas. Its one of the fastest growing cities in the US and there are plenty of jobs. Also we both know that anyone who wants to bet can anyway, so this whole arguement is insane.
                    more bull shit Rollins , why should an honest working man not be able to have a legal hobby bet on his football team at the weekend without have to stump up $000's for a vegas trip, your coming across like a puritan of the worst kind , maybe you think that an average Joe does not have the right to a few beers and a small punt whilst he watches a football game, maybe you think its only legal for the well off whilst the less well of should be criminalised, I suggest you join your local puritan bible bashing Bush love group buddy.
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                    • Jamie_UK
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                      #45
                      Can somebody tell OldThreads I just put her on ignore because she is a boring troll who just trots out the same nonsenses at every opportunity she has.
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                      • old threads
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                        #46
                        You mean like your constant bashing of America Miss Jamie?
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                        • Jamie_UK
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                          #47
                          ahhh just a blank message, silence is golden. Back under your bridge you vile troll.
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                          • robzilla
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Willie Bee
                            So the laws in Quebec are exactly the same as they are in Alberta and from one province to another across Canada?
                            Did u know that New york or michigan residents actually have laws protecting them when visiting Canada. The ontario police can give NY or MI residents speeding tickets but laws in NY or MI say that they dont have to pay the ticket.
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                            • Rollins08
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by robzilla
                              playing the lottery is still gambling. you can be addicted to playing the lottery just as you can wagering on sports.
                              Did you just figure this out or something? I don't understand your point.
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                              • Rollins08
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by robzilla
                                Did u know that New york or michigan residents actually have laws protecting them when visiting Canada. The ontario police can give NY or MI residents speeding tickets but laws in NY or MI say that they dont have to pay the ticket.
                                You must be great at trivial pursuit with all these useless facts. What does this have to do with Willie's post?
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                                • Willie Bee
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                                  • 02-14-06
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by robzilla
                                  Did u know that New york or michigan residents actually have laws protecting them when visiting Canada. The ontario police can give NY or MI residents speeding tickets but laws in NY or MI say that they dont have to pay the ticket.
                                  Nice dodge, now answer my original question?
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                                  • robzilla
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Rollins08
                                    Did you just figure this out or something? I don't understand your point.
                                    gambling is gambling. thats my point. why can you play power ball or whatever the hell its called but not bet on monday night football. why is there such a huge line being crossed in americans eyes from the lottery to sports wagering or other forms of gambling?
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                                    • robzilla
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                      Nice dodge, now answer my original question?
                                      i think there are minor differences in provincial laws, but they are basically the same. The differences here are in city by laws to help protect people from things and to help the environment.
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                                      • Rollins08
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Jamie_UK
                                        more bull shit Rollins , why should an honest working man not be able to have a legal hobby bet on his football team at the weekend without have to stump up $000's for a vegas trip, your coming across like a puritan of the worst kind , maybe you think that an average Joe does not have the right to a few beers and a small punt whilst he watches a football game, maybe you think its only legal for the well off whilst the less well of should be criminalised, I suggest you join your local puritan bible bashing Bush love group buddy.
                                        You got me figured out Jamie. I'm like the reverse Robin hood. I want to take from the poor and give to the rich. I throw in the Robin hood reference to make you feel at home.
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                                        • Jamie_UK
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                                          #55
                                          I think most of the free thinking world can see the hypocrisy coming out of America when it comes to gambling. To see Rollins trying to defend that is laughable.
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                                          • old threads
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Jamie_UK
                                            ahhh just a blank message, silence is golden. Back under your bridge you vile troll.
                                            Your head back in the sand now I see Miss Ostrich. I have not even touched the subjects of Neville Chamberlain, Sir Ian Blair and the plethora of blunders in the American Revolution. Just think Miss Jamie if Great Britain was as perfect as you purport then the USA wouldn't have all of these troubles now. Enjoy life with your head in the sand Miss Jamie. We will see you in another month when you are having your period and choose to rant about the USA.
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                                            • Rollins08
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Jamie_UK
                                              I think most of the free thinking world can see the hypocrisy coming out of America when it comes to gambling. To see Rollins trying to defend that is laughable.
                                              I'm confident at this point that you have not read even one of my posts. Can you answer one question. Why do you spend most of your time worrying about the US gambling policy?
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                                              • robzilla
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Jamie_UK
                                                I think most of the free thinking world can see the hypocrisy coming out of America when it comes to gambling. To see Rollins trying to defend that is laughable.
                                                I dont understand american backwards thinking.
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                                                • Willie Bee
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by robzilla
                                                  i think there are minor differences in provincial laws, but they are basically the same. The differences here are in city by laws to help protect people from things and to help the environment.
                                                  You think?! So you don't know for sure what the laws are in your own country, yet you choose to critique ours?

                                                  What 'things' in the city do Canadians need protection from?
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                                                  • robzilla
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by old threads
                                                    Your head back in the sand now I see Miss Ostrich. I have not even touched the subjects of Neville Chamberlain, Sir Ian Blair and the plethora of blunders in the American Revolution. Just think Miss Jamie if Great Britain was as perfect as you purport then the USA wouldn't have all of these troubles now. Enjoy life with your head in the sand Miss Jamie. We will see you in another month when you are having your period and choose to rant about the USA.
                                                    Remember when Canada burned down the whitehouse?
                                                    Remember when canada became a place for slaves to run away from slave owners.
                                                    remember when canada was a place for soldiers who knew Vietnam was a stupid war.
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                                                    • robzilla
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                                      You think?! So you don't know for sure what the laws are in your own country, yet you choose to critique ours?

                                                      What 'things' in the city do Canadians need protection from?
                                                      Gun shooting, Nascar driving, slave owning americans.
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                                                      • Willie Bee
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by robzilla
                                                        Gun shooting, Nascar driving, slave owning americans.
                                                        Ah yes, I remember now that on my last trip to Calgary the streets were deserted due to Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson and Kurt Busch walking through town with six guns strapped to their sides while Toby was picking cotton back on their farms.

                                                        Your ignorance now exposed, I'll return to something more productive.
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                                                        • Jamie_UK
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Rollins08
                                                          I'm confident at this point that you have not read even one of my posts. Can you answer one question. Why do you spend most of your time worrying about the US gambling policy?

                                                          The other posts about it being hypocritical are just my reasoned POV , the reason it effects me as a full time advantage player on a personal level is the off shore book market lacks liquidity which means less bonus's and less books to play. I have found new gaming related profit avenues , but its not like it was before the ban. I used to get at least 6 $500 100% offers a month before even touching the 20% reloads from books like Bowmans etc. Cris group, The Greek and a few others are the only ones worthwhile now.

                                                          I just hope that if you get Clinton as the next President then hopefully hammering off shore gaming will not be a priority and hopefully they will find a way to sneak back in.
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                                                          • noyb
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                                                            • 09-13-05
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by old threads
                                                            Tell us again Jamie how the British had World War II wrapped up and the USA just came aboard to get into the victory parade. In the meanwhile here are some of Prince Philip's best quotes. One can't help but wonder if Jamie UK writes for him, sort of a "ghost foot in mouth" writer.


                                                            Discussing the London traffic issue in 2002 - "The problem with London is the tourists. They cause the congestion. If we could just stop tourism, we could stop the congestion."

                                                            On the primary troubles in Brazil - "Brazilians live there."

                                                            On the culinary prowess of British women - "British women can't cook."

                                                            Whilst in Kenya to a native woman who had presented him with a small gift - "You are a woman, aren't you?"

                                                            To British students in China - "If you stay here much longer, you'll all get slitty-eyed."

                                                            To a driving instructor in Scotland - "How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to get them through the test?"

                                                            To young deaf people in Cardiff, referring to a school's steel band - "Deaf? If you are near there, no wonder you are deaf."

                                                            To a blind woman with a guide dog - "Do you know they have eating dogs for the anorexic now?"

                                                            To the President of Nigeria, who was dressed in traditional robes - "You look like you're ready for bed!"

                                                            To Lord Taylor of Warwick, who is black - "And what exotic part of the world do you come from?"

                                                            To an Aboriginal man in Australia - "Do you still throw spears at each other?"

                                                            that's a coincedence, just last week a friend forwarded me a similar e-mail, only this one had the best quotes of George Bush during his presidency.

                                                            it was quite a laugh actually, but, similar to your post, I fail to see the connection with this topic.
                                                            Last edited by noyb; 11-09-07, 03:01 PM.
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                                                            • White_Tiger
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                                                              • 08-29-07
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                                                              #65
                                                              where are we headed here is this thread???
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                                                              • jon13009
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                                                                #66
                                                                I imagine here:

                                                                Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


                                                                Same old stuff recycled after this thread degenerated into name calling......
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