BigJuicyOdds Bailout offer for BetRoyal and SBG Global Victims

**copper** · 10-24-07, 05:41 PM

It can't be done. SBG ZEROED all accounts. Screenshots can't be taken.

**Bill Dozer** · 10-24-07, 06:35 PM

Copper,
Please send the account information you have.

**Bill Dozer** · 10-25-07, 04:30 PM

bigjuicyodds offering bailout to SBG Global and BetRoyal Victims

bigjuicyodds (SBR rating D+) states it will credit players for winnings confiscated by SBG Global (SBR rating D-) and BetRoyal (SBR rating D-) without requiring a deposit. A 20x roll-over (balance must be played-through twenty times) will be required before withdrawals can be requested. Players who elect to accept the offer must contact SBR. BJO expects accounts to be credited before the end of the week.

bigjuicyodds is a new sportsbook using Capilleira software and sportsbook hosting services. Capilleira-hosted sportsbooks were rated as high as C- in 2006. All Capilleira-based books were downgraded due to a lack of safeguards for players by Capilleira management. Capilleira blamed anonymous pricincipals behind both BetCSL (SBR rating D-) and DragonWager (SBR rating D-) for inaility to pay players. bigjuicyodds tells SportsbookReview it also intends to absorb balances from these sportsbooks next week. BJO will be reevaluated following feedback from former CSL, DragonWager and SBG customers.

**SBR_John** · 10-25-07, 04:35 PM

SBG still will have to pay the money they stole to clear their name is this. Nothing changes that.

**RickySteve** · 10-25-07, 05:16 PM

Good work, Bill.

**bigboydan** · 10-25-07, 05:25 PM

I'm glad to see bigjuicyodds stepped up to the plate on this problem.

**Doug** · 10-25-07, 05:34 PM

It's ironic that Royal used to be the book doing these bailouts.

Why is this book doing it ? The terms are pretty decent ( no deposit). Can they afford it ?

**Brick Tamland** · 10-25-07, 05:43 PM

never bet at a book that use two or more adjetives in the name bigjuicybutteryshineyodds.com

**SBR_John** · 10-25-07, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by Doug

It's ironic that Royal used to be the book doing these bailouts.

Why is this book doing it ? The terms are pretty decent ( no deposit). Can they afford it ?

I think they are looking to take a step up and will write this expense off as marketing.

Bottomline this is not a CRIS or even a royal. This is a D+ book that wants to grow. Players will risk time only so obviously its a wrothy deal. Although no one is going to pretend this is an ideal situation. They need to take good care of these players. They will make a name one way or the other.

**ShamsWoof10** · 10-25-07, 06:26 PM

I joined and logged in to look at their odds... Why does everything say "EVEN" next to their sides and totals...?

**bigboydan** · 10-25-07, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by Doug

It's ironic that Royal used to be the book doing these bailouts.

That will never happen anymore now that SBG bought them out.

**Bill Dozer** · 10-25-07, 06:42 PM

Unfortunately a lot of the bailing books need to get bailed. BetOnStars wanted to be a hero wirting checks they couldn't cash. I think BJO will break that mold and start a good foundation with this. Time will tell.

BJO is offering a nice gift with nothing to lose. They aren't getting anything in the short term for this and probably won't even get new signups until they go the distance with this group of cappers.

**ShamsWoof10** · 10-25-07, 07:14 PM

Is there a glitch in their software..?

NFL FOOTBALL

Cleveland vs. St. Louis
203 10/28
01:00PM CLEVELAND BROWNS -3 Even
204 ST. LOUIS RAMS +3 Even
RISK WIN

203 Over 45 Even
204 Under 45 Even
RISK WIN

203 10/28
01:00PM CLEVELAND BROWNS -165
204 ST. LOUIS RAMS +145
RISK WIN

Moneyline

Detroit vs. Chicago
205 10/28
01:00PM DETROIT LIONS +5 Even
206 CHICAGO BEARS -5 Even
RISK WIN

205 Over 45 Even
206 Under 45 Even
RISK WIN

205 10/28
01:00PM DETROIT LIONS +220
206 CHICAGO BEARS -240
RISK WIN

**Doug** · 10-25-07, 09:54 PM

For_Immediate_Release:

Costa Rica, Republic of (Press Release) October 19, 2007 -- By offering “No Juice” it means that if you lose you don't have to pay the extra 10%, which is standard fee for most sportsbooks. For example, if you bet $100 on the game, you would win $100. And if you lose, you owe the sportsbook $110. Sometimes no juice is offered as “no vigoish” or “no vig” all refer to the amount charged by the sportsbook for their services.
Sportsbook and Poker site, Big Juicy Odds will also be offering free $20 bets to their players along with the “no vig” “no juice” lines. There is no limit to the amount of free bets as well as there seems to be no final end date for the “no juice”. Typically most sportsbooks offer “no Vig” for the month of November or around Thanksgiving and Christmas. At BJO there is no end date yet for this promotion.
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**Doug** · 10-25-07, 10:09 PM

How can they do this ?

**Hap** · 10-25-07, 10:25 PM

Question: Betroyal has not offered to pay me back my initial deposit. I have heard nothing from that book. Will BJO take on that amount too, if Betroyal does not pay?

**jolub** · 10-25-07, 11:54 PM

I wish BJO would cover some of the Futurebet ripp-offs that I have experienced.

**copper** · 10-26-07, 07:04 AM

I would like to thank Bill Dozer for all his work to come to this resolution. Thanks a lot. I would also like to thanks BigJuicyOdds for stepping up! Thanks!

**curious** · 10-26-07, 07:07 AM

Originally posted by copper

I would like to thank Bill Dozer for all his work to come to this resolution. Thanks a lot. I would also like to thanks BigJuicyOdds for stepping up! Thanks!

I'll be more thankful after we get our payouts. LOL

**Bill Dozer** · 10-26-07, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by Hap

Question: Betroyal has not offered to pay me back my initial deposit. I have heard nothing from that book. Will BJO take on that amount too, if Betroyal does not pay?

If your payouts exceeded the amount deposits it doesn't matter what your last deposit was. If you never took a payout we need to pursue it with SBG.

**katstale** · 10-26-07, 01:03 PM

What is the max bet over the internet? If it is anything reasonable--maybe you can get them to allow a few Cascade customers into the fold?

If they did that--they would all kinds of new customers.

**Doug** · 10-26-07, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by katstale

What is the max bet over the internet? If it is anything reasonable--maybe you can get them to allow a few Cascade customers into the fold?

If they did that--they would all kinds of new customers.

I think they are over-extending themselves already.

This place offers all kinds of no juice games and free bets as it is.

They may need a bailout themselves after this.

If it were me I'd do that 20X rollover ASAP !

**curious** · 10-26-07, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by Doug

I think they are over-extending themselves already.

This place offers all kinds of no juice games and free bets as it is.

They may need a bailout themselves after this.

If it were me I'd do that 20X rollover ASAP !

That is easy to say, but the bets have to be advantage plays or the principal balance will be gone. How are you going to find that many advantage plays in a short time frame?

**Doug** · 10-26-07, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by curious

That is easy to say, but the bets have to be advantage plays or the principal balance will be gone. How are you going to find that many advantage plays in a short time frame?

Should be plenty of good bets with all those +100 games, but some books don't count them towards rollover.

I'd still rush it, to get to the front of line. Bet both sides of games with other books on one end, if it's not too expensive.

**Doug** · 10-26-07, 02:01 PM

Another way is make a lot of small bets, and hope to hit 52.38% (breakeven point for -110) to achieve rollover.

You could make 100 bets of $100 over a weekend, roll 10k, win 52 or more of them, and you're OK.

**Doug** · 10-26-07, 02:10 PM

Make sure you know what counts towards rollover, some places don't count ML's over -150 and such. I'd request exact terms to be e-mailed.

**ShamsWoof10** · 10-26-07, 02:13 PM

This is VERY dangerous for both parties... I believe all of you will end up back where you are now... You will have to see if the "No Juice" games count towards your roll over.. All the sides and totals I see are no juice for college and pro football...

If someone does reach the roll over such as curious who's balance is 30K with a roll over of 600K their balance might be awfully high... He might really bump his wagers up to get that roll over completed ASAP taking out the fear factor and could end up with 600K as a balance once his roll over is done...

If they do pay however, they will have new cliental up the as*...

This should be very interesting...

**SBR_John** · 10-26-07, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by ShamsWoof10

.....He might really bump his wagers up to get that roll over completed ASAP taking out the fear factor and could end up with 600K as a balance once his roll over is done...

If they do pay however, they will have new cliental up the as*...

This should be very interesting...

If he does that he will have a job waiting for him at SBR... we can tell ThePrick to take a hike.

**curious** · 10-26-07, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

If he does that he will have a job waiting for him at SBR... we can tell ThePrick to take a hike.

I don't know what will happen, but I am going to just keep on doing what I have been doing. A strategy which turned $2,000 into $30,000.

If I continue to win I am going to increase the bet size per the bankroll. I figure I can bet $600,000 in advantage plays in 3-5 months, only problem is we have this dry spell coming up when football ends and nothing is going on until baseball season.

Hmm, maybe Senior Golf.

**Doug** · 10-26-07, 02:41 PM

Nba,nhl

**copper** · 10-26-07, 03:35 PM

Please help a rookie out. What is an advantage play? Following what I have been playing, it would take be 26+ weeks to reach the 20X level. I was thinking of doubling the bets and trying to make a score or go broke. Anyway, if I don't lose it all, the time to reach 20X would be cut in 1/2. Any other ideas?

**pats3peat** · 10-26-07, 03:48 PM

interesting. Nice work BJO

**ShamsWoof10** · 10-26-07, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by copper

Please help a rookie out. What is an advantage play? Following what I have been playing, it would take be 26+ weeks to reach the 20X level. I was thinking of doubling the bets and trying to make a score or go broke. Anyway, if I don't lose it all, the time to reach 20X would be cut in 1/2. Any other ideas?

I would suggest starting at the same level and try and first get ahead... Once you get so far ahead then take SHOTS... if you end up back where you started then at least you got some of the roll over taken care of and if you go further ahead then take bigger shots...

Maybe play a game line and hedge it at the half if you get a window for a middle...

**curious** · 10-26-07, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by copper

Please help a rookie out. What is an advantage play? Following what I have been playing, it would take be 26+ weeks to reach the 20X level. I was thinking of doubling the bets and trying to make a score or go broke. Anyway, if I don't lose it all, the time to reach 20X would be cut in 1/2. Any other ideas?

NOOOOOO...overbetting your bank is the kiss of death. Email me and I will tell you what bet size to use. ibeecurious@yahoo.com. If you follow Sebastian we should hit the 20x in about 4 months, maybe 5. BUT, you will have a lot more than the bank you have now. I'll explain, email me.