BetUS: It is because I say so

[Justin7]

I'm not used to decent books making horse-shit arguments.

Does a bet on a small soccer league count towards rollover? Yes, unless you have a rule saying it doesn't. No rule on point, so it counts.

"Our rules say it doesn't." No, your rules do NOT say that.

"They do."

Congrats. BetUs cannot even read their own rules, and they are screwing players around. Mix this rollover dispute with the way they are jerking pro players on limits with pending rollover, and I see a downgrade in their future.

[durito]

I deposited 5k. 2,500 freeplay. 5x or 7x rollover I forget. They went over the rules, 1/2baseball, no props, etc. No mention of soccer.

I bet over 200k (mostly soccer). Asked for a withdrawal, was told my rollover was still 30k and that no soccer did not count. (i was up 16k). I was cut to $100 limits with a minute delay here too.

This was 9 months ago when you were upgrading them all the time.

[Thremp]

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[Justin7]

I deposited 5k. 2,500 freeplay. 5x or 7x rollover I forget. They went over the rules, 1/2baseball, no props, etc. No mention of soccer.

I bet over 200k (mostly soccer). Asked for a withdrawal, was told my rollover was still 30k and that no soccer did not count. (i was up 16k). I was cut to $100 limits with a minute delay here too.

This was 9 months ago when you were upgrading them all the time.

I'm sorry, Durito. Did I handle that dispute?

[durito]

I'm sorry, Durito. Did I handle that dispute?

I didn't dispute it, I scalped/lost the balance on some horrendous morrison NBA lines (even the non-morrison line set is off market by a 1pt there sometimes) (only my soccer limits were cut).

[Justin7]

Next time you're getting screwed, speak up...

[durito]

Meh. If they want more action, more action they will get. They are a shit book build on stolen player funds (dozers words, not mine). That they acted ok for a while doesn't hide any of that. Jazzette was acting good for a couple years when the did the parlay theft.

I just wouldn't want to see someone posting up there just because they are listed on sbrlines.

[TomG]

Justin,

Why are you playing there after specifically warning professional players to stay away?

forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/431107-betus-professional-players.html

[Justin7]

Justin,


Why are you playing there after specifically warning professional players to stay away?

It's not me... it's another player with a complaint at SBR.

There are different degrees of harassment of pros. Usually there is a rule allowing it, but not in this case.

[Peep]

Why not just play there and not take any bonuses?

Seems like this would eliminate a lot of problems. Everyone seems to think their numbers have value in their own right.

[Absolutelyonfire]

I have had no issues with BETUS. In fact , I have received 4 bank wires from them in a very prompt manner this month totaling nearly 20K

[C.S.]

Why not just play there and not take any bonuses?
Seems like this would eliminate a lot of problems. Everyone seems to think their numbers have value in their own right.


Because for most of these "pro's" the bonus is their edge. It's needed to make a profit.

[Peep]

Yeah C.S. I hear you.

I play at some books that give me a bonus and some books that do not. The opinionatedness of the numbers, time the number are put up, limits and juice are as big factors for me as bonuses.

Not saying a bonus is not something of value, I am just saying it is only one part of the equation.

[katstale]

A pro by definition takes free money and earned money. It's like a shoe deal!! lol

[hatethisgame]

Sorry if this question has already been asked.. any problem withdrawing money from betus in the amounts of $3000.00

[Kemalettin]

Hey Justin thanks for the warnings about this shitty books..
Last week i read their rules about referrals.That rules made my day! LOL
betus.com/about-us/referral-bonus-rules.aspx

[xyz]

I reloaded my betus account recently. The way they described the rollover is as follows:

Major sports full game bets counts, baseball counts for half.
Golf counts only for the four majors

[big joe 1212]

what a shit book!

i had problems with them years ago and have stayed away since!

[acarmelo1]

I have had no issues with BETUS. In fact , I have received 4 bank wires from them in a very prompt manner this month totaling nearly 20K

Hi BETUS customer service rep, how are you doing?

[Absolutelyonfire]

acarmelo1 - you're hysterical !! Have never had issue with them. and was just stating that unlike some other books like WSEX or Bet Phoenix....just stating my experiences which hope will be of use to others. I have accounts with 8 books at present and I have had no issues with receiving any payment from BETUS and can prove it.

[yisman]

I'm not used to decent books making horse-shit arguments.

When did BetUS become a decent book?

This is a case of a horse-shit book making a horse-shit argument.


I fail to understand why anyone would deposit with them when there are books like 5 Dimes, Bet Phoenix, and Bet Jamaica.

[big joe 1212]

When did BetUS become a decent book?

This is a case of a horse-shit book making a horse-shit argument.


I fail to understand why anyone would deposit with them when there are books like 5 Dimes, Bet Phoenix, and Bet Jamaica.

[donkdown]

acarmelo1 - you're hysterical !! Have never had issue with them. and was just stating that unlike some other books like WSEX or Bet Phoenix....just stating my experiences which hope will be of use to others. I have accounts with 8 books at present and I have had no issues with receiving any payment from BETUS and can prove it.

Plz prove it

[donkdown]

BetUs is scum I wont even go into an issue I had with these thiefs I got ripped off for a pretty penny from these scums. I will get them back someday I will fck this book over I gurantee it.

[acarmelo1]

acarmelo1 - you're hysterical !! Have never had issue with them. and was just stating that unlike some other books like WSEX or Bet Phoenix....just stating my experiences which hope will be of use to others. I have accounts with 8 books at present and I have had no issues with receiving any payment from BETUS and can prove it.

You have 9 posts,
you just created your SBR account to post in this thread.
you have accounts with 8 other books, but you didnt had an account with SBR?
and you just happened to receive 20k from BETUS this month

I mean you can be telling the true, but it is to fishy

[tltaylor89]

Betus should have an F stamped on them immediatly

[gambleballs]

They came so far. Then just fell back into old habits it seems

[skrtelfan]

Why not just play there and not take any bonuses?

Seems like this would eliminate a lot of problems. Everyone seems to think their numbers have value in their own right.

Because they are extremely fast to put you on a delay and move almost all of their good numbers before you can bet them. As I've mentioned many times before, I made a tiny deposit because I didn't trust them and even my $50 bets or whatever were enough to get on a delay very quickly. They'll leave a stale line up for a while and when you try to bet it, they use your bet as a clue that they need to move their line.

The only good lines I was able to bet there were certain NBA lines. I don't know the exact details of all the Morrison systems but it's possible I was betting the other side of a Morrison play in those cases so they didn't care that I was getting 3% better than the market or whatever. They were largely worthless to me without the bonuses (and they lied to me about a promised bonus and revoked it after I deposited) because they wouldn't let me bet very much there that wasn't a market line, and why would I bet a market line at -110 when I can get -103 or whatever on Matchbook?

[djefferis]

Shitty book, recreational use only.,openly hates pro/scalper action and will seize funds with no warning.

Why play there knowing the first whiff of sharpness gets you tossed, likely with less than your balance?

[Chuck Sims]

A "decent" sportsbook? BetUS is SHIT book.

[TodayIsForgotten]

You have 9 posts,
you just created your SBR account to post in this thread.
you have accounts with 8 other books, but you didnt had an account with SBR?
and you just happened to receive 20k from BETUS this month

I mean you can be telling the true, but it is to fishy

I'm not making accusations but i do agree it's a bit fishy. He stated in the WSEX thread that their gaming license expired 3 months ago and now are an illegal sports book. He wished he found this site months ago. With information like that, why would you need this site?

I'm just saying. He may very well be telling 100% truths. I personally don't care. I just like hiccups in stories.

[THE HITMAN]

I have them rated at a B. Beware & Be aware.

[BET THE HOOK]

BetUS sucks like a vacuum

[mg63]

I'm not used to decent books making horse-shit arguments.

Does a bet on a small soccer league count towards rollover? Yes, unless you have a rule saying it doesn't. No rule on point, so it counts.

"Our rules say it doesn't." No, your rules do NOT say that.

"They do."

Congrats. BetUs cannot even read their own rules, and they are screwing players around. Mix this rollover dispute with the way they are jerking pro players on limits with pending rollover, and I see a downgrade in their future.

I have a similar problem with matchbook
I sent matchbook a moneybookers deposit on May 15
Matchbook covers the fees for moneybookers deposits and give comm credits
Today I login and see they have take away the comm credits I was given for that deposit for that deposit, $300.

Why?

"On May 11th you made a withdrawal of $9580.00 by interbook transfer to BetCris and on May 15th you submitted a deposit of $9,755.00 through Moneybookers. As a result of these pass through transactions we can no longer continue to cover the processing costs of your Moneybookers deposits"

Fine, if they want to do that but:
1- Why have they not posted this on their site?
2- Why matchbook did not tell me this before they did the book transfer to betCris? If they had I would have withdrawn by moneybookers instead of book transfer.
3- Why matchbook did not tell me this before I sent them the moneybookers deposit? Matchbook should have rejected the deposit and should have notified me about their policy, above!


"we cannot cover processing costs on Moneybookers transactions when customers are transferring the funds to other books "
Fine, why is this not posted on their site? Its very wrong to accept the deposit, not cover the fees, when on their own site it says matchbook will cover fees, they should have rejected the moneybookers deposit and sent me an email regarding this.

If I knew about this I would have asked for a moneybooker withdrawal, then I would send the funds to betCris by moneybookers instead of book transfer.

They had told me before if I roll over a moneybooker deposit 1 time I can withdraw by any method, I rolled it over more than one time, nearly 2 times.

I have asked them today to reverse the moneybookers deposit plus the fees(comm credits they took away which is over $300) but they have not done this! I think what they have done is very wrong and dishonest.

By accepting the moneybookers deposit and then charging me for the deposit matchbook broke their own rules posted on their site.

I do read negative posts about matchbook on the sports forums sometimes and when they do like this it makes wonder.

[Chuck Sims]

mg63, give Matchbook a chance to respond to your request. If they do not follow their own policy, then file a complaint.

Matchbook has a habit of changing policy without notification.