So I decided to give Carib Sports Casino a try...

[oldtim]

I don't want to hear You should have known better. I expect to lose a little but there entertaining so I gave them a try. I was playing single hand blackjack with the Hi-Low option that pays 1-1. Obviously the odds to get a higher or lower card then the dealers first card is 50/50.. I went 0-39 sent Carib sports staff an email to pull reports so I can post them on here. They are reviewing the account play.

LOL avoid Caribs Casino.

[oldtim]

They seem to be avoiding the fact I was playing a side bet that is a 50% chance to win.. I went 0-39 however since I won a few blackjack hands they consider that normal. Nothing normal about this folks.

[BigdaddyQH]

And nothing you can do about it. It is theoretically possible to go 0 for 39. Sure it's a long shot, but so is winning the lottery and people do that every day. And your side wager is not necessairily a 50-50 play. What about the cares that have already been played. Did you count them? 0 for 39 does reek of all kinds of smells, but they did nothing that can be proven illegal.

[oldtim]

I knew eventually they would claim "chance"

Pay the man his $39 dollars!

[oldtim]

So out of anger I got back into the casino and hit $200 on a slot machine.. LMFAO

Thanks Carib

[Carseller4]

I've had my battles with the Carib Casino. Cashed out about $800 in July and lost twice as much since. Finally had enough and requested the casino to be blocked.

[trixtrix]

And nothing you can do about it. It is theoretically possible to go 0 for 39. Sure it's a long shot, but so is winning the lottery and people do that every day. And your side wager is not necessairily a 50-50 play. What about the cares that have already been played. Did you count them? 0 for 39 does reek of all kinds of smells, but they did nothing that can be proven illegal.

see this is why it's hard to believe you're running any kind of team play. it's impossible to go 0 for 39 in a 50/50 game, the odds are 1 in 5.5*10^11th power. that's so many standard deviations off that it's decibels easier to hit the powerball lottery than to go 0 for 39

if the facts are as you stated os, obtain and send the gameplay log sbr and have justin take a look at it. if ganchrow was around he said once that he'd burn any casino that's cheating, and that's definitely cheating.

[oldtim]

Do You think SBR will be able to get me my $39 back?

[trixtrix]

i would actually like to see the posted casino log, i find it hard to believe that any casino would cheat at this massive level. it's more likely you mis-remembered imo

[robmpink]

I've lost over 70 hands in a row playing let it ride.

[Climate]

So out of anger I got back into the casino and hit $200 on a slot machine.. LMFAO

Thanks Carib

Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact there are some serious issues in their casino.

0-39 on a coinflip!

What is that, 1 out of 100 billion or something?

[wisky]

I hit a couple of royal flushes there

[sq764]

I've lost over 70 hands in a row playing let it ride.

but let it ride at least has SOME decision making by the player

[siabdo23]

seems casino is rigged

[trixtrix]

we need to see the posted game logs before forming any opinions

[TensaZangetsu]

This is the reason why I hate Casino software..
Well.. Betting on sports is more reliable than trying your luck on some online casino site such as Carib..goodluck.

[DiggityDaggityDo]

0-39

ouch

[sportscash]

i lost 33 reds in a row at roulette a few years back at carib.

[HoulihansTX]

see this is why it's hard to believe you're running any kind of team play. it's impossible to go 0 for 39 in a 50/50 game, the odds are 1 in 5.5*10^11th power. that's so many standard deviations off that it's decibels easier to hit the powerball lottery than to go 0 for 39 if the facts are as you stated os, obtain and send the gameplay log sbr and have justin take a look at it. if ganchrow was around he said once that he'd burn any casino that's cheating, and that's definitely cheating.

Big daddy is the village idiot. Just pat him on the head, and smile.

[Ruifgalmeida]

0-39 it is not normal but if you play a few milion hands it will happend at least once.
But why did you continue play after so many loses, if I lose 8 in row i will leave the casino.

[M@ximo]

0-39

ouch

casino is not good man... i do not trust must of them... 0 to 39...

Let us know how it ends...

Good luck...

[Boscoe]

0-39 it is not normal but if you play a few milion hands it will happend at least once.
But why did you continue play after so many loses, if I lose 8 in row i will leave the casino.

there's a one in 550 billion chance of going 0-39.

it's a shame that these online casinos aren't regulated better. they'd still make plenty of money with truly randomly generated cards.

[trixtrix]

being that op has not been able to produce tangible casino log yet, i think we should give the casino the benefit of a doubt and assume op hyper-inflated the stats

[azn624]

Once you're at 0-14 the next hand is still 50% chance to win or lose, same with if you 0-38 it's still 50% chance that you win or lose the next hand. What I'm saying is it's definitely possible to lose 39 times in a row on a 50% chance game and since you already got the hard part of going 0-38, you still had a 50% chance of losing the next hand.

[Glitch]

Once you're at 0-14 the next hand is still 50% chance to win or lose, same with if you 0-38 it's still 50% chance that you win or lose the next hand. What I'm saying is it's definitely possible to lose 39 times in a row on a 50% chance game and since you already got the hard part of going 0-38, you still had a 50% chance of losing the next hand.

everyone knows that each hand is (should be) 50/50. its the mathematical unlikelyhood of that 50/50 occurance transpiring repeatedly over and over so lopsidedly which has a lesser chance of 50/50 to happen.

another reason online gaming should be fully legalized. we can bring it to the US and have the better business bureau and other watchdogs checking programs and algorithims and doing random testing and whatnot.

[oldtim]

Thanks Everyone for the patience on my response. Carib sent me an email today defending the bad losing streak. They said the odds are 44% and not 50% so 0-39 is common. I have played in there casino since 2001. You would think they would at least respect the fact the money needed to be refunded so they did not lose a long time customer.

We have been analyzing your logs and while we are sure you are aware of the specific rules with the side bet, we would like
to clarify and explain further. Firstly, please take note that the deck is shuffled after each round and that the rules of the
side bet are as follows: Before the deal, you may choose to bet on the High-Low Side bet. If you bet “High” and the first card
dealt to you beats the dealers open cards, you win! If the dealers open cards beat yours, you lose. If you bet “Low”, it’s the
other way around. Dealer wins all ties except for Aces, which result in a push. Though it may seem that the odds of getting
Hi or low is a 50/50 chance, the fact that the Dealer wins all ties except Aces, changes these odds. For example, when
flipping a coin 34 times the reality of getting 17 heads and 17 tails is not the case; in fact, the outcome will vary every
time As per the rules, the dealer wins on pushes ....(except when an ace is produced), this changes the odds and it is safe to
say that this leaves the player with an approximate 44% chance of winning the side bet. The fact that the cards are
shuffled after every hand has ended makes the side bet a totally unique bet which is not linked in anyway to any
previous or subsequent side bet, similar to Roulette where each spin is a new unique spin. Basically, you have a 44% chance of getting the side bet right, each time. ......

[jboy4]

Exact same thing happened to me with Carib. Casino was as crooked as I have ever played at. Was a long time customer of SOS and Carib. Dropped around 40K in sportsbook over 12 years with SOS. Now because of Carib's crooked casino will never play there again.

[trixtrix]

Thanks Everyone for the patience on my response. Carib sent me an email today defending the bad losing streak. They said the odds are 44% and not 50% so 0-39 is common. I have played in there casino since 2001. You would think they would at least respect the fact the money needed to be refunded so they did not lose a long time customer.

see this is why it's hard to take fora member's words at face-value. up until this pt i have assumed the high/low game is 50/50 (sort of like the high/low double up game on video poker after a win).

if dealer wins all draws then this obv is not the case, op has neglected to mention this fact when he was initially presenting this case. a draw occurs slightly less 1/13 times assuming a non-infinite deck, let's say 1/13 for simplicity sake, 7.7% (let's use 7%) occurence. I have 46.5% win-rate for the player (assume 7% will be won by dealer, rest of 92% is split evenly between dealer/player)

that reduces the odds of going 0-39 to 1 in 39 billion +.

but again, op has yet furnish any proof that such a losing streak did occur. only a misunderstanding of the rules/edge

[Hankwins]

I won big on sports and then won 20K playing blackjack in carib casino. (200/hand at blackjack) I went the next day and starting playing 500/hand lost all 20k i had won, my best and worst casino experience online.

[Igetp2s]

Why would anyone trust an online casino that has no regulation whatsoever?