I placed a small wager on the game tonight with my Cascade account and from the bet tickets you can see these guys are accepting an average of 1000 wagers per day. We have not seen a full weekend of football but I imagine it should be 4-5 times this volume on a big weekend card. Just with an average $200 wager they should be raking $5000/day and probably more with the number likely to be betting on the -110 line and that will lose. I'm not buying the fact that they don't have some money to at least make some partial payments on the post up accounts of players wishing to withdraw..
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HelmutRestricted User
- 03-17-07
- 356
#71Comment -
AKSPEAKINGSBR Rookie
- 08-31-07
- 3
#72
.. for BetCRIS to use their political clout and contact the Costa Rican VP?
LENNY IS TRYING HIS BEST, I KNOW THIS I HAVE SPOKE TO HIM MANY TIMES AND HE IS TRYING HIS BEST TO NEGOTIATE A DEAL OUT NOW. YOU GUYS NEED TO GIVE LENNY AND RICHARD A BREAK AND JUST POSSIBLY GET YOUR HEAD EXAMINED. MAYBE THE STAFF AT SBR NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT BODOG AND THERE CURRENT SITUATIONS?
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The NitSBR Rookie
- 04-17-07
- 23
#73I am owed about $6500. I have yet to try calling them but I have emailed twice about my withdrawal and have received no response.Comment -
SBR_JohnSBR Posting Legend
- 07-12-05
- 16471
#74I am ashamed AK. I'm ashamed that Lenny promised to pay everyone in July and has not sent out a single penny. I'm ashamed that here in Costa Rica in 2007 a bookmaker can operate for 6 months and refuse to return even the money players posted up and continues to operate. I'm even ashamed I responded to you because I know you are looking out for AK and no one else.Comment -
pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#75holy crap, you guys are letting AK back in here?...Comment -
luke m.SBR Rookie
- 05-14-07
- 39
#76I was owed 48k, but lost it over the last 6 months!Comment -
AKSPEAKINGSBR Rookie
- 08-31-07
- 3
#77I'm ashamed that here in Costa Rica in 2007 a bookmaker has any political clout in the government. Kinda shows what kind of country we are talking about hence the 3rd world country slogan. Is alkida setting up camps there yet johnny?
John I'm not the one that gets paid to refer people to books so who is looking out for who. You get paid from bodog "great chance there done" and have them all over your boards, forums, and every other venture site you have. I don't get paid from books to promote, I don't get paid from any book anymore, I don't recommend any book except Skybook.. You know why I promote skybook? Because they don't take sbr's rating stance guide. "remember the A rating rule SBR must know the Owners contact info and be in contact with them on a regular basis?" Seems to me not every sportsbook likes to have there owners info on bill dozers computer only a time bomb for the government to seize. Either way stop by OGD sometime we miss yaComment -
philswinSBR MVP
- 04-18-07
- 1279
#78Amazingly got called on my cell phone twice today from Cascade asking if I knew of the specials they are running for football season. Both time I said I was owed money and both times I was hung up on immediatly. How pitiful is that. I could have jumped all over the person calling but kind felt sorry for them , knowing they will probably get stiffed to. Lenny owes me about 8K thru my account and a shared account.Comment -
pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#79kt,
that's truly unbelievable...geez...Comment -
katstaleSBR MVP
- 02-07-07
- 3924
#80Yes they are dialing for dollars. Sorry i haven't got back to you lately Lenny. I have been traveling. But don't worry, i am sure we will meet soon. Have your boys at SBR tell you where this IP came in from. It won't be too much longer my man!!Comment -
suzysuzySBR High Roller
- 04-05-07
- 181
#81same thing happened to me today. cascade called and i told them i was owed money, and they hung up on me.Comment -
HelmutRestricted User
- 03-17-07
- 356
#82That one guy lost 48K this summer and they did not pay out .01 of it. Sad!!Comment -
pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#83helmut,
they let a guy run up a $40,000 loss on a credit account with their cash flow?...this just keeps getting more wild...Comment -
SBR_JohnSBR Posting Legend
- 07-12-05
- 16471
#84
We are still taking Cascade at their word that payments will start to all BEFORE NFL Sunday. Its obvious this is a scam but SBR said we will wait until Sunday to publicly declare this a scam so wait we will. Hopefully players will begin reporting payments in mass in the next 8 days and I will have to apologize.Comment -
ScorpionSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-04-05
- 7797
#85I called Lenny 2 weeks ago, he told me to call him back in a week! I called him a week later, customer service rep said I must call him on his cell phone, I have called him three times and he does not answer! My balance is $11,200Comment -
cloudaghSBR Sharp
- 04-08-07
- 486
#86John,
You said it - un fukking believable.
A friend of mine with a zero balance account has been called twice, and he told them that he heard of the payout problems I have had. Cascade said "I know for a fact that's not true, there are no problems and your friend must be confused with a different book."
Are they STILL a "D" rated book, now that we know they are taking deposits with everyone else here getting the shaft?Comment -
DrSlammSBR Wise Guy
- 11-10-05
- 577
#87mise let them scam for another week then right?Comment -
SBR_JohnSBR Posting Legend
- 07-12-05
- 16471
#88John,
You said it - un fukking believable.
A friend of mine with a zero balance account has been called twice, and he told them that he heard of the payout problems I have had. Cascade said "I know for a fact that's not true, there are no problems and your friend must be confused with a different book."
Are they STILL a "D" rated book, now that we know they are taking deposits with everyone else here getting the shaft?Comment -
bigboydanSBR Aristocracy
- 08-10-05
- 55420
#89I think players need to start looking at the legal options the players have John. I just don't see Lenny keeping his (empty) promise at all to you at all, but I'm really praying I'm wrong about this one for the players sake.Comment -
panther11SBR Rookie
- 09-06-06
- 38
#91I'm owed a little more than 5k to bring the running total here to over 400k.
I wonder how many more there are that don't read this forum or that don't bother posting. How much do these crooks owe?Comment -
ConandoSBR Rookie
- 03-27-07
- 6
#92owed ~55k here...Comment -
suzysuzySBR High Roller
- 04-05-07
- 181
#93cascade just called me for the third time in 3 days to tell me about football specials. pathetic.Comment -
ScorpionSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-04-05
- 7797
#94They are trying to steal more!!!Comment -
HelmutRestricted User
- 03-17-07
- 356
#95I called them to let them know that I would not be wagering any more since they said I would be getting a payout and it never came. The sad thing is the lady asked me for my address since they did not even have one on record. Sure sounds like their going to hit that Sunday deadline. NOT!!!!!!!!!!!Comment -
JELLYBEANSBR Sharp
- 01-14-07
- 303
#96What a joke. They are openly taking deposits and all the so called watch dogs just sit around and watch. How many more people have to be lied to and scammed before more innocent people send them money. Every site should work together to let unknowing players know what is going on. After BOS and countless others this should never have been allowed to be dragged along without a widespread boycott. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU WATCHDOGS............................... .............Comment -
Bill Dozerwww.twitter.com/BillDozer
- 07-12-05
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Bill Dozerwww.twitter.com/BillDozer
- 07-12-05
- 10894
#98What a joke. They are openly taking deposits and all the so called watch dogs just sit around and watch. How many more people have to be lied to and scammed before more innocent people send them money. Every site should work together to let unknowing players know what is going on. After BOS and countless others this should never have been allowed to be dragged along without a widespread boycott. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU WATCHDOGS............................... .............Comment -
Jasper11SBR Rookie
- 01-20-07
- 44
#99Don't know why I get all this attention but they have called me three times this week. As a long time customer they each offered a 100% bonus. It must be rolled over 10 times!I think it was Walter the first two times but I am positive it was an earnest English lass named Kelly who called on Tuesday.
They had only owed me about 600 dollars but refused pay for months. In July I got so sick of their lies that I went double or nothing and lost. Mostly I felt relieved butI am not anxious to deposit with them on any terms.Comment -
Jasper11SBR Rookie
- 01-20-07
- 44
#100The online Wire took an unsentimental look at Cascade in April. They pronounced the book D.O.A. Nothing has changed. It's sad!
TOW Ratings
4/29/2007
BetCascade downgraded from 2 to 1
Players are urged to avoid BetCascade by all means; the operation still is still advertised on some Web sites despite its demise. Players depositing with BetCascade must be aware that they have zero chances to get paid.Comment -
White_TigerSBR Sharp
- 08-29-07
- 465
#101I would love to get paid 1/2 of my 4k anytime now.Comment -
White_TigerSBR Sharp
- 08-29-07
- 465
#102NFL already start any $ anyone??Comment -
pags11SBR Posting Legend
- 08-18-05
- 12264
#1031.7 million?...holy crap...Comment -
SBR_JohnSBR Posting Legend
- 07-12-05
- 16471
#104We will begin posting information on what players can do next week.Comment -
RonPaul2008SBR Hall of Famer
- 06-08-07
- 6741
#105Cris or the Greek or WSEX or one of the major players in the industry should do a bail out - they can require a 5x rollover. Seeing a book go from A rated to stiff in such a short period of time would be bad for the industry.Comment
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