More Bet Phoenix skulduggery

[dmtrader]

I placed a Super Bowl bet early last week, Colts -4.5. I was very excited that I got such a good line, I believe the Colts may win by almost a touchdown.

Then, last night it just disappeared from my Bet Phoenix account.

Poof.

The wager amount ($100) was back in my account, but there is no history of there ever being a bet placed or of the refund I received. The bet just vanished. It is as if I never placed it.

The account rep is asking me for more information, but of course my statement shows I never made the bet.

I don't know. I am sort of stunned right now. I want to see what others think of this. Have you had the same sort of experience?

[Dark Horse]

Always take a screenshot and have a ticket number.

[THEGREAT30]

BetPhoenix is becoming quite the questionable organization. This guy has 500 + post so I find it hard to question him on this one. BP should be used with caution

[ShamsWoof10]

Why am I NOT surprised..?

[dmtrader]

Always take a screenshot and have a ticket number.

That is really good advice. I'm taking a screenshot of today's bets right now.

Thanks, DH (nice avatar btw)

[Dark Horse]

BetPhoenix is becoming quite the questionable organization. This guy has 500 + post so I find it hard to question him on this one. BP should be used with caution

You realize that you're talking about a 1 pt line movement from 4.5 to 5.5 for 100 bucks, right?

Ever asked a book if you could buy through the 5?

[Doug]

Always take a screenshot and have a ticket number.

One should not have to do this, and I only would if I thought the bet was iffy ( like a bad line), to begin with.

This guys complaint can't be called a bad line, but we also don't have enough info to say he is correct and BP is wrong.

[dmtrader]

I'm not trying to cast aspersions at Bet Phoenix -- if they want $100 they can just wait for me to lose at least that much every day.

if it is was a bad line -- wouldn't they tell me that and refund the $100?

But it is odd that the bet disappeared.

[Dark Horse]

It happens sometimes, dmtrader.

Consider a screenshot the same as a receipt when you buy something. Most of the time you won't need it, but you won't be able to return something without it.

[THEGREAT30]

One should not have to do this, and I only would if I thought the bet was iffy ( like a bad line), to begin with.

This guys complaint can't be called a bad line, but we also don't have enough info to say he is correct and BP is wrong.

I totally agree.

[KGambler]

I don't know. I am sort of stunned right now. I want to see what others think of this. Have you had the same sort of experience?

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/317630-has-anyone-had-placed-wager-disappear-betphoenix.html

Edit to add: Definitely take screen shots there and write down the bet confirmation number. I don't trust their software.

[THEGREAT30]

You realize that you're talking about a 1 pt line movement from 4.5 to 5.5 for 100 bucks, right?

Ever asked a book if you could buy through the 5?

What does that have to do with my post? I'm simply stating that they should be used with caution if they void peoples bets without notice or reason. Doesn't matter if the line stayed the same throughout.

[KGambler]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...etphoenix.html

Edit to add: Definitely take screen shots there and write down the bet confirmation number. I don't trust their software.

OK, I guess I don't know how to post links. I started a thread entitled "Has anyone had a placed wager disappear at BetPhoenix?" which details my experience. I posted it on 1/15/2010.

[Doug]

This is pretty crazy over $100.

-4.5 and -5.5 is almost the same line in NFL, 5 hits maybe 1-2% of the time, if that, real garbage number.

It's hard to see BP voiding this for any reason, and esp. for a $100 bet.

Poster does seem fairly credible, though !

[dmtrader]

Thanks KGambler, for your link.

My experience here is very similar to yours. The bet just disappeared. I do mark off all my graded bets each night, but this bet was placed almost 2 full weeks before the Super Bowl, so I was accustomed to seeing $100 bet in my "pending plays" at the top of the screen.

Not much I can do about it -- I have no proof. I just took my first screenshot today. I'll be doing that every day from now on.

[Dunder]

You realize that you're talking about a 1 pt line movement from 4.5 to 5.5 for 100 bucks, right?

Ever asked a book if you could buy through the 5?

My read would be that this is not "skulduggery" but a genuine error on the part of BP. Such errors, or similar ones appear to be becoming quite common there.

[dmtrader]

LOL!

The "skulduggery" comment was just so I didn't come across as blaming Bet Phoenix for everything including global warming and the earthquake in Haiti!

I agree, this seems more like a software problem than anything else. I lose more than $100 there on an average week. Although I was up over $300 there last week!

[Dark Horse]

I totally agree.

OK. Don't take screenshots. Great idea. lol

[ShamsWoof10]

You realize that you're talking about a 1 pt line movement from 4.5 to 5.5 for 100 bucks, right?

Ever asked a book if you could buy through the 5?

That's not the point DH and I'm sure you know that...

It happens sometimes, dmtrader.

Consider a screenshot the same as a receipt when you buy something. Most of the time you won't need it, but you won't be able to return something without it.

Are you f*ckin' kiddin' me..???? If it happens "sometimes" at that book then that is one book I won't be playing at... WTF>>???

If I took DH's position with Sportsbook.com I am a shill but, as in MANY other cases with other books, when others take the side of another book it's fine... F*CK YOU GUYS!!!

[dmtrader]

Slow down, guys. I don't think anyone is taking the side of Bet Phoenix.

I'm just trying to be realistic. These are offshore books we are betting at. Nothing is regulated.DH is right, I should take some steps to protect myself from computer error, "skulduggery," or otherwise.

[Dark Horse]

That's not the point DH and I'm sure you know that...

I responded to someone, not the original poster, who is inexperienced enough not to take screenshots, yet 'experienced' enough to use this particular example as further evidence that BP is a questionable book. Context, my friend, context...

[ShamsWoof10]

I responded to someone, not the original poster, who is inexperienced enough not to take screenshots, yet 'experienced' enough to use this particular example as further evidence that BP is a questionable book. Context, my friend, context...

I understand that DH but coming from my perspective (I like to middle college football games) I have no time to take screen shots of EVERY BET on both sides... How long do I save them for..? I don't have enough time to fit that into my schedule at the moment and if I saw one side disappear like that I would be PISSED!!! The line opened at -4 and he said the bet was almost two weeks before the SB which tells me he probably got the legit line... It opened at -4 and went to -5.5 the following day...

[G's pks]

My 2 guesses... First guess it really happened...

Second guess you took their outrageous rollover bonus,you are losing and cannot pack your bags and leave.

I believe either way you will agree with guess one.

If you do not agree with guess number two, why are you placing bets there still?

[THEGREAT30]

I don't think taking screen shots means you are experienced or not. It is simply your preference. If I need to take a screenshot I would not be playing there as another respected poster has stated. BetPhoenix has had almost every type of complaint that there is come up for everyone to view, so there is no need to bash, the info is here in abundance, use with caution.

[bigboyfosho]

lol, how can you say it happens sometimes, that makes no sense what so ever

[THEGREAT30]

By the way, they have payed me and payed me very promptly I might add before, but that does not mean I ignore other posters experiences, good day

[dmtrader]

My 2 guesses... First guess it really happened...

Second guess you took their outrageous rollover bonus,you are losing and cannot pack your bags and leave.

I believe either way you will agree with guess one.

If you do not agree with guess number two, why are you placing bets there still?

Well, G --

I took the reduced juice in lieu of the bonus, which they have recently taken away from college hoops which did not make me happy.

I may not play there anymore. The Colts play disappeared just this morning, and I am considering my options. In the meantime I am working wiht the account rep to try and get my $ and Super Bowl play back.

[BrianLaverty]

It happens sometimes, dmtrader. Consider a screenshot the same as a receipt when you buy something. Most of the time you won't need it, but you won't be able to return something without it.

Except the fact that even if you do take a screenshot, they might tell you you photoshopped it because its not "their error".

[tltaylor89]

Always print our youre tickets

[THEGREAT30]

Except the fact that even if you do take a screenshot, they might tell you you photoshopped it because its not "their error".

Good point because if they are trying to be dishonest there is hardly a way to stop them, good day.

[THEGREAT30]

Always print our youre tickets

Welcome back.

[HedgeHog]

Nevermind

[relaaxx]

this book that most people think is great - has more types of problems than any other book. has more types of problems than any 5 books. i don't understand what makes it so good. they pay. great. what GOOD book doesn't pay. anything else. seems like it's always something- every week something different. dozens of trerads in a few months. some cheering, most complaining. starting to printout daily treads. makes good bathroom reading material. better than a sunday paper. plus its daily.

[THEGREAT30]

this book that most people think is great - has more types of problems than any other book. has more types of problems than any 5 books. i don't understand what makes it so good. they pay. great. what GOOD book doesn't pay. anything else. seems like it's always something- every week something different. dozens of trerads in a few months. some cheering, most complaining. starting to printout daily treads. makes good bathroom reading material. better than a sunday paper. plus its daily.

The truth shall set you free, good day.

[HedgeHog]

[quote=ShamsWoof10;3092087 I'm sure you know that... with Sportsbook.com I am a shill.



Yes, we all know.