Anyone every had a sportsbook requested a "certified" copy of your identification?

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  • JoshW
    SBR MVP
    • 08-10-05
    • 3431

    #1
    Anyone every had a sportsbook requested a "certified" copy of your identification?
    I am still trying to find out the details of what the actual requests involved. But this seems to be a new level of documentation I haven't seen before.

    My first thought it that it is a unfair burden on the player. Fake documents are certainly a problem for sportsbook when dealing with fraud, but this doesn't seem like a reasonable solution.
  • mtneer1212
    SBR MVP
    • 06-22-08
    • 4993

    #2
    If a person has a DL and utility bill, then asking for anything else is complete garbage, and is just a book trying to find a reason not to pay. The only book I have ever had a problem with "verifying" my identification is Sportbet.
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    • katstale
      SBR MVP
      • 02-07-07
      • 3924

      #3
      agree. if utility matches up with a good looking ID. all that can be expected.
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      • chance
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 06-16-08
        • 682

        #4
        Yes I have heard Betfair require certified copies for some nationalities.

        I just wish books asked for everything upfront. Instead they ask for stuff when you want to withdraw. That is what pisses me off.
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        • relaaxx
          SBR MVP
          • 06-15-06
          • 3281

          #5
          never had a sportsbook ask for certification of an id. recently i had a bank ask for a certified or notarized copy of my id. the bank was out of state,i was opening an account. and i still thought that it was a little too much.
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          • JoeVig
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 01-11-08
            • 772

            #6
            This is common on the casino side of things. Lots of places asking for notarized documents to make a withdrawal. Hope sportsbooks do not go to this, what a PITA.
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            • Toit
              SBR Sharp
              • 03-10-09
              • 451

              #7
              Originally posted by chance

              Yes I have heard Betfair require certified copies for some nationalities.
              That's correct.
              When I wanted to activate my Australian wallet I had to hand over certified copies of Id and a utility bill signed by a respected member of society.

              No big deal though, I asked the owner of the building I work in to sign it and it was accepted.
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              • JoshW
                SBR MVP
                • 08-10-05
                • 3431

                #8
                Well, I am working on a case, where the sportsbook is asking for certified copies of bank statements. So I will report how it turns out.

                If books are going to up the standard of the documents they require, I really think they need to be clear to the player going in, what is expected of them.
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                • tltaylor89
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 06-19-09
                  • 19610

                  #9
                  Copy of Dk TBD c
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                  • spartangreen
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-25-09
                    • 3807

                    #10
                    I have had to verify my ID on some withdraws, but only one time and they keep it with your file. No big deal
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                    • CollegePro
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-23-09
                      • 4006

                      #11
                      Originally posted by spartangreen
                      I have had to verify my ID on some withdraws, but only one time and they keep it with your file. No big deal
                      how do you know if they really only kept it with your file??
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                      • ararat2010
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 12-16-09
                        • 428

                        #12
                        I have that problem right now with IASbet. Could u explain or give me an example how do u certify your docs? Or what "respected member of society" should write/sigh on black&white copy of my ID and Passport?

                        I asked some Notary in my country and she declined to sign it in English (as mentioned she is certified to sign only in local language) and she cant even speak English in case they will call her back for verification. Pls help
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                        • Thremp
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-23-07
                          • 2067

                          #13
                          Doc requirements on signups pls.
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                          • noyb
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 09-13-05
                            • 971

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ararat2010
                            I have that problem right now with IASbet. Could u explain or give me an example how do u certify your docs? Or what "respected member of society" should write/sigh on black&white copy of my ID and Passport?

                            I asked some Notary in my country and she declined to sign it in English (as mentioned she is certified to sign only in local language) and she cant even speak English in case they will call her back for verification. Pls help
                            get another notary. she can sign it in english if she wants to, there's no rule she can't, and any half decent notary should be able to at least speak english, so get another one.
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                            • ararat2010
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 12-16-09
                              • 428

                              #15
                              To Thremp: Here is doc requirements http://www.iasbet.com/whatsnew/90dayrule.aspx

                              To noyb: Ok. Will try to find someone on Monday
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                              • ararat2010
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 12-16-09
                                • 428

                                #16
                                Bad news is that Notary and other officials are not permitted to certify any of public ID documents.
                                Good news - my current employer certified my passport and IASbet approved it.
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                                • 316316
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 10-31-08
                                  • 395

                                  #17
                                  they requested an ID just once it was on my frist payout...
                                  Only sent the copy of my ID and that's it they process may withdrawal request...
                                  I think as long as your ID is valid they will accept it... But dunno to other bookie...
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                                  • ararat2010
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 12-16-09
                                    • 428

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 316316
                                    they requested an ID just once it was on my frist payout...
                                    Only sent the copy of my ID and that's it they process may withdrawal request...
                                    I think as long as your ID is valid they will accept it... But dunno to other bookie...
                                    Looks like Iasbet as well as Betfair have different verification policies for different countries... Just Betfair doesnt hide that differencies
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                                    • Lihamylly
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 11-15-09
                                      • 14

                                      #19
                                      I have delivered verified documents to Betfair long ago and now I have faced up the same annoynce with IASBet. This is absolutely rubbish IMO. Just a way for bookers to try to avoid to payout. I would decrade IASBet if I were admins in SBR. Passport and utility bill should do it.
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                                      • jon13009
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-22-07
                                        • 1258

                                        #20
                                        Never to that level/ ID has been requested, but just faxed to them to verify it was my account for a withdrawal or (in the distant past) to verify a credit card.
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                                        • ararat2010
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 12-16-09
                                          • 428

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Lihamylly
                                          I have delivered verified documents to Betfair long ago and now I have faced up the same annoynce with IASBet. This is absolutely rubbish IMO. Just a way for bookers to try to avoid to payout. I would decrade IASBet if I were admins in SBR. Passport and utility bill should do it.
                                          I absolutely agree... I've completed a real research in my country's legislation due to this matter until I pass "verification"
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                                          • Dunderfisk
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 12-19-09
                                            • 82

                                            #22
                                            IASBet= Intentional Awful Slowpays Bet

                                            having the same problem. Have sent signed and stamped copies of **** front/back, driver´s license/id front/back, proof of identity/residence from tax authorities and an utility bill.

                                            And they still say

                                            UR withdrawal has been denied

                                            please send us blah blah blah blah

                                            they are either stupid and dont know what they are doing or intentionally delaying payouts
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                                            • Ruifgalmeida
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-23-08
                                              • 2024

                                              #23
                                              since i deposit with neteller is very rare bookies ask me for documents, I realy get angry whem bookies ask for documents, in my case it is pure burocrasy because they can check that my info on neteller is the same as in the bookie
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                                              • storm70
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 08-15-08
                                                • 69

                                                #24
                                                All australia book requested certified document sign by respected community leader but don't have to be notarized .
                                                Betfair also if you want to bet on australia market
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                                                • Thremp
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-23-07
                                                  • 2067

                                                  #25
                                                  Document requirements should be before anyone places a wager. Its absurdity that places can steal your money on the basis of "identification".
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                                                  • whatsgood5
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 10-13-09
                                                    • 15359

                                                    #26
                                                    I can't say that I've ever had this happen to me.
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                                                    • Hareeba!
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 07-01-06
                                                      • 37283

                                                      #27
                                                      In almost all cases sportbooks do this because they are required by government or licensing authorities.

                                                      Particularly in Australia where the 100 points test applies.

                                                      So don't blame the books. It's what they have to do to keep their licences.

                                                      Having said that however I think perhaps there is either some inefficiency evident or more probably lack of training of some of the backroom staff charged with applying the rules.
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                                                      • AimingHigh
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 06-12-09
                                                        • 670

                                                        #28
                                                        It seems like there are a few posters in this thread who don't understand the licensing requirements for Aus bookies. They're not spending their own resources on checking your ID because they feel like it, but because they're required to.

                                                        If you don't want the hassle of the ID verification process, don't sign up there. The couple of Aus books I've used make it quite clear what they require.

                                                        ID requirements are quite different to genuine scams.
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                                                        • Toit
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 03-10-09
                                                          • 451

                                                          #29
                                                          Centrebet (the .com, not the .co.uk) never asked me for a certified copy.
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                                                          • scott235
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 10-12-09
                                                            • 465

                                                            #30
                                                            there are so many alternatives to this, that would actually make it safer for the book and the player. for one, how about an extra phone only password, for withdrawls and deposits.

                                                            btw, you can open a bank account online with the info they are requesting.

                                                            also it's a major privacy issue for U.S. players.
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                                                            • frauhanna
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 09-08-09
                                                              • 205

                                                              #31
                                                              for me it is normal to ask for documents for verification purposes. To avoid stealing of accounts. Just to be secure and safe.
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                                                              • scott235
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 10-12-09
                                                                • 465

                                                                #32
                                                                on the surface, it seems that you would be right, but in practice it is just the opposite. ie: the safest bank accounts that the world ever had were swiss numbered only accounts. extremely secure.
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                                                                • Thremp
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-23-07
                                                                  • 2067

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by frauhanna
                                                                  for me it is normal to ask for documents for verification purposes. To avoid stealing of accounts. Just to be secure and safe.
                                                                  Yep. Make sure no fraud it taking place. Verification all up front.
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