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  • brooks85
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-05-09
    • 44709

    #1
    Problem with Betus- Big surprise..
    I requested a payout on 10/12 for 3k by check.


    Called today and they said on 11/19 the payout was refunded back to my account. However, in my account balance their is no history of this and they said it only shows up on there end..
    I've gone over my bets and balance for the past few days and it all adds up to what it is at now, no sign of an extra 3k deposited/refunded.


    I repeatedly asked how am I supposed to see the 3k was deposited back to my account and I kept getting "it is an internal thing we see on our end."


    I also asked why the deposit was refunded. She said there was a stop payment on the check and but she never gave me a reason why. I also never received the check.

    Anyone have this issue or any suggestions?(aside from getting another book haha)
  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #2
    Fill out a complaint. I've had a lot of success working with BetUs.
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    • brooks85
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-05-09
      • 44709

      #3
      k, sent it in. thanks.
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      • bleedblue
        SBR Sharp
        • 07-22-08
        • 323

        #4
        This is a fairly moot point right now, but why did you wait so long to inquire about the check? Anyway, good luck...
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        • BigdaddyQH
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-13-09
          • 19530

          #5
          I will say this about BetUs. A couple of years ago there was a big raid in Phoenix. The feds busted an illegal book operation. The story was on T.V. What I noticed was that a Mercedes was being towed, and the personalized plate was "BETUS". Caviat Emptor.
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          • brooks85
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-05-09
            • 44709

            #6
            not sure why i waited so long, honestly forgot about it
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            • tltaylor89
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 06-19-09
              • 19610

              #7
              I see they still are trying to cheat people they dont want to pay and I wouldent be surprised if they were a little thin on deposits I havent played at that place since their processors refunded me my money by mistake.Next move of theirs will be we didnt receive youre paper work
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              • king
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-15-09
                • 506

                #8
                They were supposed to send you a check but never did. So the 3k they see on their side is that the check never shipped and we still have it in process and forgot to send it. So we going to lie to you what happen by saying it shows we put back the money into your account. They are hoping you dumb enough to believe them or play along. They did the same thing to me, and they only pissed me off. The only way ill come back to them is if they change their act and give me some cool goodies like they gave some people. The only crap I got from them was a crappy dvd and a calender I could care less about. I want a tv or something since some people got a football and football jersey, golf balls, gift basket and I get a crappy thing.
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                • Stumpage
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-21-05
                  • 2906

                  #9
                  "We only see it on our end....."

                  Who knew that BetUs would swoop in at the 11th hour to come up with the best excuse of 2009? Seriously, that it so utterly absurd that whoever thought of it has to be given credit for their ingenuity.

                  Not to wish ill will on the OP, but it would be very interesting to see what would happen if he attempted to wager with a balance of $0, seeing that there should still be an extra $3K registering on the Magical BetUs side of things. Maybe we all have some funds that were thought to be long lost, but low and behold show up in never-never land when the BetUS fairy dust is sprinkled over the accounts...

                  Brooks, it is a ridiculous situation, but you should feel quite reassurred by the fact Justin is on it. Hopefully in the near future you can simply look back on this and laugh, as BetUS is simply taking patheticness to an alltime sub-level.
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                  • soxwin1917
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-09-08
                    • 1188

                    #10
                    Wow, what a book.
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                    • iceminers26
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-13-08
                      • 15600

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tltaylor89
                      I see they still are trying to cheat people they dont want to pay and I wouldent be surprised if they were a little thin on deposits I havent played at that place since their processors refunded me my money by mistake.Next move of theirs will be we didnt receive youre paper work
                      They did this to me over and over, asking for a single piece of info then when I thought it was all set, they would ask for another piece, and so on; this book is a joke IMO. Its like pulling teeth to try and get your money out of there, much better books out there.
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                      • Justin7
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-31-06
                        • 8577

                        #12
                        FYI, the BetUS states the money was crediting back to the player's account a long time ago. The sage is ongoing, but BetUS has been very good at communicating with me, and I haven't seen a single "foul" since I've been with SBR.
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                        • Justin7
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-31-06
                          • 8577

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Justin7
                          FYI, the BetUS states the money was crediting back to the player's account a long time ago. The sage is ongoing, but BetUS has been very good at communicating with me, and I haven't seen a single "foul" since I've been with SBR.
                          Er sorry, this might be another dispute.
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                          • brooks85
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-05-09
                            • 44709

                            #14
                            im not getting it back and as for help, justin is worthless and insulting. I could have emailed them asking the wrong questions over and over on my own.

                            Justin referred to me in the email to betus as "throwing a fit."

                            And on top of that, justin still was not asking right question. He emailed them twice saying I was waiting on a payout, well if you clearly read my problem, i am not waiting on a payout. And a obvious question to ask "why was the payout canceled in the first place," never was asked. And i had to email justin my problem about 4 times and he still did not take the time to understand it.

                            Big help!!
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                            • brooks85
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-05-09
                              • 44709

                              #15
                              here is betus reply

                              Justin,

                              This one is easy. $3,040 was refunded into this client's account on
                              11/19 at 5:21pm EST. Perhaps he did not notice, as he had a decent
                              balance at the time, but the 3k payout and the $40 in fees were refunded
                              to the account.

                              Let me know if you need anything else.


                              Ya, im not going to notice an additional 3000 dollars...


                              What happen is..

                              They waited for me to have a big payday, which I did because of UFC events Nov. 14th and 21th and then they pulled the trigger with this "refund" bs.
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                              • trixtrix
                                Restricted User
                                • 04-13-06
                                • 1897

                                #16
                                post your betus transaction history, if it's there it should be indicated in your account history
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                                • brooks85
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-05-09
                                  • 44709

                                  #17
                                  thats a problem, it only goes back 2 weeks.

                                  Plus even if it went back far enough, betus has their angle covered, Betus says " the refund will not show up in your "transactions."
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                                  • trixtrix
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 04-13-06
                                    • 1897

                                    #18
                                    c'mon i can see both my betus account history and wager history all the way back since inception, i find it doubful that if they refunded you truly, it will not show up in either of those histories
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                                    • brooks85
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-05-09
                                      • 44709

                                      #19
                                      o wait it does go back farther. But no line of a refund.






                                      110992295
                                      Nov 22, 2009 01:09 AM Wager Won ... $1,646.51 $18,469.81 Grade Results 110985755
                                      Nov 22, 2009 12:05 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $3,000.00 $16,823.30 1 110963039
                                      Nov 21, 2009 11:17 PM Wager Won ... $3,600.00 $19,823.30 Grade Results 110926695
                                      Nov 21, 2009 09:18 PM Wager Won ... $15,600.00 $16,223.30 Grade Results 110896530
                                      Nov 21, 2009 07:03 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $3,000.00 $623.30 1 110733931
                                      Nov 21, 2009 01:39 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $64.22 $3,623.30 1 110733887
                                      Nov 21, 2009 01:39 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $54.35 $3,687.52 1 110733704
                                      Nov 21, 2009 01:34 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $3,000.00 $3,741.87 1 110733601
                                      Nov 21, 2009 01:32 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $3,000.00 $6,741.87 1 110733394
                                      Nov 21, 2009 01:27 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $1,000.00 $9,741.87 1 110731040
                                      Nov 21, 2009 01:24 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $3,000.00 $10,741.87 1 110693631
                                      Nov 20, 2009 09:57 PM Wager Won ... $1,175.00 $13,741.87 Grade Results 110690956
                                      Nov 20, 2009 09:46 PM Wager Won ... $1,050.00 $12,566.87 Grade Results 110685696
                                      Nov 20, 2009 09:23 PM Wager Won ... $1,050.00 $11,516.87 Grade Results 110679102
                                      Nov 20, 2009 08:50 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $600.00 $10,466.87 1 110673330
                                      Nov 20, 2009 08:27 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $550.00 $11,066.87 1 110660943
                                      Nov 20, 2009 06:55 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $550.00 $11,616.87 1 110659716
                                      Nov 20, 2009 06:47 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $550.00 $12,166.87 1 110659264
                                      Nov 20, 2009 06:44 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $500.00 $12,716.87 1 110658949
                                      Nov 20, 2009 06:42 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $600.00 $13,216.87 1


                                      y within the last 7 days

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                                      Click on the detail column to view transaction details Doc # Transaction Date Description Amount Balance Detail 110494626
                                      Nov 19, 2009 02:49 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $3,000.00 $13,816.87 1 110484908
                                      Nov 19, 2009 12:33 AM Wager Won ... $1,050.00 $16,816.87 Grade Results 110458761
                                      Nov 18, 2009 09:47 PM Wager Won ... $1,075.00 $15,766.87 Grade Results 110453537
                                      Nov 18, 2009 09:35 PM Wager Won ... $1,325.00 $14,691.87 Grade Results 110435562
                                      Nov 18, 2009 08:09 PM Wager Won ... $1,325.00 $13,366.87 Grade Results 110429447
                                      Nov 18, 2009 07:10 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $50.00 $12,041.87 1 110428414
                                      Nov 18, 2009 07:03 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $600.00 $12,091.87 1 110428249
                                      Nov 18, 2009 07:02 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $550.00 $12,691.87 1 110415307
                                      Nov 18, 2009 04:52 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $650.00 $13,241.87 1 110404648
                                      Nov 18, 2009 01:16 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $495.00 $13,891.87 1 110403385
                                      Nov 18, 2009 12:44 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $17.70 $14,386.87 1 110403259
                                      Nov 18, 2009 12:40 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $17.70 $14,404.57 1 110402395
                                      Nov 18, 2009 12:15 PM 4 Wager(s) Placed $2,975.00 $14,422.27 1 2 3 4 110402274
                                      Nov 18, 2009 12:11 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $24.58 $17,397.27 1 110402198
                                      Nov 18, 2009 12:09 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $24.33 $17,421.85 1 110395428
                                      Nov 18, 2009 02:46 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $250.00 $17,446.18 1 110395425
                                      Nov 18, 2009 02:45 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $250.00 $17,696.18 1 110349083
                                      Nov 17, 2009 09:25 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $3,000.00 $17,946.18 1 110348217
                                      Nov 17, 2009 09:25 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $13.60 $20,946.18 1 110347016
                                      Nov 17, 2009 09:23 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $14.17 $20,959.78 1 Page 9 of 22 <<<12345678910>>>
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                                      • brooks85
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-05-09
                                        • 44709

                                        #20
                                        111928025
                                        Nov 27, 2009 06:59 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $1,200.00 $27,288.64 1 111926849
                                        Nov 27, 2009 06:55 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $1,100.00 $28,488.64 1 111648713
                                        Nov 26, 2009 10:44 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $1,100.00 $29,588.64 1 111648649
                                        Nov 26, 2009 10:43 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $500.00 $30,688.64 1 111610808
                                        Nov 25, 2009 11:16 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $1,100.00 $31,188.64 1 111482240
                                        Nov 24, 2009 09:30 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $1,100.00 $32,288.64 1 111459904
                                        Nov 24, 2009 06:59 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $1,100.00 $33,388.64 1 111457325
                                        Nov 24, 2009 06:43 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $250.00 $34,488.64 1 111457258
                                        Nov 24, 2009 06:42 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $250.00 $34,738.64 1 111456437
                                        Nov 24, 2009 06:37 PM Wager Won ... $2,100.00 $34,988.64 Grade Results 111443046
                                        Nov 24, 2009 04:29 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $1,100.00 $32,888.64 1 111376614
                                        Nov 23, 2009 10:47 PM Wager Won ... $2,100.00 $33,988.64 Grade Results 111356807
                                        Nov 23, 2009 08:32 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $1,100.00 $31,888.64 1 111247116
                                        Nov 22, 2009 07:35 PM Wager Won ... $6,077.92 $32,988.64 Grade Results 111247020
                                        Nov 22, 2009 07:35 PM Wager Won ... $9,040.91 $26,910.72 Grade Results 111218916
                                        Nov 22, 2009 07:11 PM Wager Won ... $2,200.00 $17,869.81 Grade Results 111043118
                                        Nov 22, 2009 12:21 PM 1 Wager(s) Placed $1,200.00 $15,669.81 1 111034509
                                        Nov 22, 2009 11:52 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $250.00 $16,869.81 1 111033135
                                        Nov 22, 2009 11:47 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $250.00 $17,119.81 1 111032936
                                        Nov 22, 2009 11:46 AM 1 Wager(s) Placed $1,100.00 $17,369.81 1
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                                        • brooks85
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 01-05-09
                                          • 44709

                                          #21
                                          bold date is the day I called about the payout
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                                          • trixtrix
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 04-13-06
                                            • 1897

                                            #22
                                            i agree if that's authentic, then the refund has not been credited on the specific date/time betus indicated, there is no gap in the overall balance between the wagers that would indicate a sudden numerical increase
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                                            • brooks85
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-05-09
                                              • 44709

                                              #23
                                              on hold
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                                              • purecarnagge
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-05-07
                                                • 4843

                                                #24
                                                I'd just close out and withdrawal the whole balance and get to better book
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                                                • 316316
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 10-31-08
                                                  • 395

                                                  #25
                                                  Yeah there's a lot of bookie don't worry....
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                                                  • Justin7
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-31-06
                                                    • 8577

                                                    #26
                                                    Are you sure that the wagering history includes non-wagering items?
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                                                    • yahoonino
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-10-07
                                                      • 2651

                                                      #27
                                                      grade d-
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                                                      • Karla
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 10-31-08
                                                        • 271

                                                        #28
                                                        wheew that's a crap! where's your money now?
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                                                        • brooks85
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-05-09
                                                          • 44709

                                                          #29
                                                          <ASS

                                                          I finally got on the phone with someone on betus end, after an hour, that could explain it too me. The way they track transactions is horrible and the money was "refunded" on the 19th but that is not when it was actually put back into my available balance. BUT, the money WAS put back in sometime between the 20th- 21th of nov.

                                                          Aside from lackluster phone support, which is no suprise, BETUS did no wrong. Except for canceling the payout in the first place and still no reason.
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                                                          • UV82
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 07-25-09
                                                            • 396

                                                            #30
                                                            dBrook85, did Betus ask you to post this ? "BETUS did no wrong...." etc...?

                                                            ... I understand that they credited yr account with the "LOST AMOUNT", but did they pay you at the end?
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                                                            • bleedblue
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 07-22-08
                                                              • 323

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by brooks85
                                                              <ASS

                                                              I finally got on the phone with someone on betus end, after an hour, that could explain it too me. The way they track transactions is horrible and the money was "refunded" on the 19th but that is not when it was actually put back into my available balance. BUT, the money WAS put back in sometime between the 20th- 21th of nov.

                                                              Aside from lackluster phone support, which is no suprise, BETUS did no wrong. Except for canceling the payout in the first place and still no reason.
                                                              Glad you got it figured out...

                                                              Originally posted by UV82
                                                              dBrook85, did Betus ask you to post this ? "BETUS did no wrong...." etc...?

                                                              ... I understand that they credited yr account with the "LOST AMOUNT", but did they pay you at the end?
                                                              It's kind of irrelevant, whether they asked him to or not. It appears they are guilty of cancelling a payout without informing him and not communicating with him. This was not a case of stealing, and it is only fair that he state that.
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                                                              • UV82
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 07-25-09
                                                                • 396

                                                                #32
                                                                I v got zero sympathy for books like BetUS so I love to rub it in.
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                                                                • questa
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 06-03-08
                                                                  • 47

                                                                  #33
                                                                  i got paid a 3 figure amount from betus a few days ago if anyone is interest. was very fast payout.
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                                                                  • Patrick McIrish
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-15-05
                                                                    • 2864

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by questa
                                                                    i got paid a 3 figure amount from betus a few days ago if anyone is interest. was very fast payout.


                                                                    Three figures would be my cap with this outfit. Be careful here, many better (and safer) outs available.
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                                                                    • Glitch
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-08-09
                                                                      • 11795

                                                                      #35
                                                                      man- they were my first book years ago when i was a sportsbetting noob. do they still send out those bikini dvds? the ones where you receive it unexpectedly then try to convince people you didnt order it
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