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  • cubical
    SBR Rookie
    • 08-22-08
    • 27

    #1
    Correlated plays
    The book I am at is allowing me to to play correlated plays. I do not believe they mean for this to occur, but I have gotten away with it for the last several weeks. My question is, what is the best strategy for me here? Should I keep playing them until management turns them off or do you think that would result in my losing all my winnings? If I were to withdraw now there isn't anything an offshore book can do to get their money back from me is there? We aren't talking a ton of money here, just a couple thousand. Thanks for the help.
  • Doug
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-10-05
    • 6324

    #2
    withdraw some, maybe 1k

    keep betting them

    withdraw again in 2-3 weeks

    repeat
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    • BigWoolyMammoth
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-19-09
      • 521

      #3
      and you guys ride my ass? jesus christ. the guy is telling you he is rippin off the book.
      "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side". RIP Hunter S Thompson
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      • 20Four7
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-08-07
        • 6703

        #4
        Is it against the rules to play them? You think the book is making an error? How correlated are the plays? Some books allow the lesser correlated parlays. If it is against there rules STOP immediately as the book will probably take your winnings.
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        • RickySteve
          Restricted User
          • 01-31-06
          • 3415

          #5
          Post an example.
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          • GETMONEYKID
            SBR High Roller
            • 10-05-09
            • 148

            #6
            see if you can take ohio st -43.5 / u48.5 on saturday

            i got this stone cold capped at 2-46

            u ship when u buy the hooks
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            • shantystar
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 11-13-05
              • 7299

              #7
              amazing!
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              • HedgeHog
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-11-07
                • 10128

                #8
                What is the SBR rating of this Book? This will be your best indication of whether you will get paid if the correlation is discovered.
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                • cubical
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 08-22-08
                  • 27

                  #9
                  I couldn't take ohio st -43.5 / o48.5. That isn't allowed. The book has a rating that is greater than a B-.
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                  • thespeculator
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-09-08
                    • 2999

                    #10
                    at 5Dimes you can bet moneyline baseball with totals, but not runline and total, but the computer will clearly say when a wager is not allowed ,greek software also tells you , not sure how other places work
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                    • Justin7
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-31-06
                      • 8577

                      #11
                      If a book rated B- or higher cancels correlated parlays AFTER the event, I'd vote for a harsh downgrade.

                      How do books deal with players betting these?
                      Las Vegas: honor the bet, and not realize how they lost
                      A+ rated Greek: honor the bet, lower your parlay limits (if you sneak one in when they're asleep)
                      A+ rated Bookmaker: honor the bet, improve lines management
                      A+ Pinnacle: they don't take the bet; they figured this out years ago
                      C (and falling) Canbet: screw the player; cancel AFTER the event
                      D- Sportsbook: screw ALL the players for the last 3 years (regrading old wagers).

                      That said, I'd love to hear what you're betting. Who's asleep at the wheel today?
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                      • durito
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-03-06
                        • 13173

                        #12
                        If he cannot parlay the Ohio St game, the software is obviously set up to not allow parlays on certain games they consider correlated. Different books have different tolerance levels here, but this isn't a case where they claim to have a rule against it but the software allows it anyway. The software is set up to block what they don't want action on.
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                        • Justin7
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-31-06
                          • 8577

                          #13
                          There are CPs, and then there are CPs.

                          If you parlay Pitt -3.5 with Pit ML -170, that's a foul regardless of what the software or rules permit. Anytime there is a 100% correlation one way, there is a problem. The remedy is to void the correlated leg (Pit ML in that case).

                          But OSU -44 / ov 48.5? If it takes it, it's fair. And please, don't have rules that say one thing, and software that allows "illegal bets".
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                          • cubical
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 08-22-08
                            • 27

                            #14
                            Thanks guys for the help. I am sorry I can not give names of the sportsbook or even what I am doing because if I did it would surely get shutdown. And the previous poster is right in that it is not the pit-3 / pit ML type of play. There is risk of loss, but its minimal. I am hoping this book won't reverse plays after the events, if they do I will surely report it here. Thanks again.
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                            • trixtrix
                              Restricted User
                              • 04-13-06
                              • 1897

                              #15
                              i kinda miss chatting w/ nate
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                              • smitch124
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 05-19-08
                                • 12566

                                #16
                                Maybe Chuck Sims is line manager
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                                • GETMONEYKID
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 10-05-09
                                  • 148

                                  #17
                                  SHIP THE OHIO ST -43.5 / UNDER 48.5 PARLAY BOYS

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                                  • HedgeHog
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-11-07
                                    • 10128

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by GETMONEYKID
                                    SHIP THE OHIO ST -43.5 / UNDER 48.5 PARLAY BO

                                    Excellent call, Ohio St won 45-0!!!!
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                                    • cubical
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 08-22-08
                                      • 27

                                      #19
                                      Update...

                                      Cashed out pretty large sum with no problems =)
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                                      • Waiting4Godot
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 10-30-09
                                        • 226

                                        #20
                                        Justin7, can you explain this to my still sleepy brain:

                                        A+ rated Bookmaker: honor the bet, improve lines management

                                        How would Bookmaker use this to improve line management?
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                                        • Justin7
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 07-31-06
                                          • 8577

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Waiting4Godot
                                          Justin7, can you explain this to my still sleepy brain:

                                          A+ rated Bookmaker: honor the bet, improve lines management

                                          How would Bookmaker use this to improve line management?
                                          Bookmaker doesn't get caught asleep at the wheel. In the rare instances when the let a CP slip through, they prevent it from happening in the future.

                                          I think I might have seen a rare CP available in their "parlay cards", but they don't usually make the same mistake with repetition... so I assume they fix things on their side.
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