5Dimes

**A4K** · 10-17-23, 05:25 PM

Try clicking a WAGER and a SIGN UP button should appear on the right column. You may have to have a Canadian IP to get a sign up page.

**Optional** · 10-17-23, 06:44 PM

No, they are not operational yet and I don't know of any ETA.

**tacoking** · 10-17-23, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by A4K

Try clicking a WAGER and a SIGN UP button should appear on the right column. You may have to have a Canadian IP to get a sign up page.

Thanks A4K. I tried doing that and received this message:403 - Forbidden: Access is denied.

You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials that you supplied.

**tacoking** · 10-17-23, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by Optional

No, they are not operational yet and I don't know of any ETA.

Thanks for the reply Op and letting me know. Do you know when they may be operational in Canada? I just find it odd that they would shut down 5dimes.eu before staring up 5dimes.ca. Why would you want to lose that much business unless there was some sort of stipulation that they had to shut down 5dimes.eu prior to opening up 5dimes.ca

**Optional** · 10-17-23, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by tacoking

Thanks for the reply Op and letting me know. Do you know when they may be operational in Canada? I just find it odd that they would shut down 5dimes.eu before staring up 5dimes.ca. Why would you want to lose that much business unless there was some sort of stipulation that they had to shut down 5dimes.eu prior to opening up 5dimes.ca

I could only guess.

But one possible reason for the delay could be if the Ontario regulator received a lot of "feedback" from Canadian customers who had futures unfairly graded due to the shut down and felt ripped off. They did exactly the same stuff to Americans when they shut down for them too and probably quite a few of those people complained too.

But I don't know any inside info.

**tacoking** · 10-17-23, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I could only guess.

But one possible reason for the delay could be if the Ontario regulator received a lot of "feedback" from Canadian customers who had futures unfairly graded due to the shut down and felt ripped off. They did exactly the same stuff to Americans when they shut down for them too and probably quite a few of those people complained too.

But I don't know any inside info.

Yea I forgot about that issue. That could very well be part of it. I just don't understand why they would stop taking bets completely on 5dimes.eu. Were they not allowed to keep 5dimes.eu if they went into the Canadian market? You could already use 5dimes if you lived in Canada.

**bjorn247** · 10-21-23, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by tacoking

I posted this in an earlier thread but never got an answer. Is 5Dimes operational at all yet in Ontario or in Canada? I see the 5dimes.ca is up and running but I don't see anywhere on the site where you can sign up. I know they stopped taking bets on 5dimes.eu in May which is really odd. Why would they completely stop operations ie. taking bets on 5dimes.eu until their 5dimes.ca website was fully functional and running? That doesn't make any sense to me unless there was some kind of special timeframe that they had to adhere to where they had to completely shutdown operations on 5dimes.eu before they could start running 5dimes.ca. I mean by shutting down 5dimes.eu you would think they're just losing a crazy amount of business.

Thanks,
TK

It's only available for Europe.

**infotimbo** · 10-23-23, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by bjorn247

It's only available for Europe.

no, European accounts were closed as well. No idea why they are still running a site at all currently

**tacoking** · 10-23-23, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by infotimbo

no, European accounts were closed as well. No idea why they are still running a site at all currently

That's what I was saying, I found that very odd that they would just close up shop completely with 5dimes.eu. Why wouldn't they keep the site up and running until they got the 5dimes.ca site going? Doesn't make sense to me unless there was some sort of stipulation where they had to shut down 5dimes.eu for a predetermined amount of time before they could open up shop with 5dimes.ca.

**Optional** · 10-24-23, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by tacoking

That's what I was saying, I found that very odd that they would just close up shop completely with 5dimes.eu. Why wouldn't they keep the site up and running until they got the 5dimes.ca site going? Doesn't make sense to me unless there was some sort of stipulation where they had to shut down 5dimes.eu for a predetermined amount of time before they could open up shop with 5dimes.ca.

Or maybe they lost their Isle of Man license and had no choice?

**infotimbo** · 10-24-23, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Or maybe they lost their Isle of Man license and had no choice?

it may be in some kind of relation to the whole licensing process at least, but does an Isle of Man license really make much of a difference? I'd think it wouldn't officially allow them to offer bets on a domestically regulated market anyway.

**Optional** · 10-24-23, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by infotimbo

it may be in some kind of relation to the whole licensing process at least, but does an Isle of Man license really make much of a difference? I'd think it wouldn't officially allow them to offer bets on a domestically regulated market anyway.

One of the more respected regulators accepted by the EU.

**infotimbo** · 10-24-23, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Optional

One of the more respected regulators accepted by the EU.

not anymore, I think, with more and more countries handing out licenses themselves. Here in Germany at least, even a Malta (although EU) license wouldn't allow to legally enter the market. Same for countries like France, Italy or GB, as far as I know. Probably Canada as well?

**wtdo03** · 10-24-23, 09:31 PM

Just use BetAnySports.eu.

Same site. Same layout.

**Brewcity** · 10-24-23, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by wtdo03

Just use BetAnySports.eu.

Same site. Same layout.

Not really the same layout. They were when 5d first went away for Americans, but changed everything and its different now. They are very quick to limit. I am down huge on bas, had a run and cashed a good chunk. But am still down big overall. 95% of what I do is live betting and I am limited "to win" $50 on all of the live betting platforms. I miss live betting ultra and live betting super.

**Optional** · 10-25-23, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by infotimbo

not anymore, I think, with more and more countries handing out licenses themselves. Here in Germany at least, even a Malta (although EU) license wouldn't allow to legally enter the market. Same for countries like France, Italy or GB, as far as I know. Probably Canada as well?

Not sure what you mean. Isle Of Man is strict and fair and before 5dimes got a license were known for rejecting dodgy books and not just selling licenses. Probably the gold standard for what a good regulator should be.

Malta is the opposite of that and always has been.

Yes, Germany is different. So is France and Italy. All three complete messes and as far as I know in a big argument with the EU Commission about not respecting their union agreements. But every single other EU member accepts all other EU licensed books afaik.

**infotimbo** · 10-25-23, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Yes, Germany is different. So is France and Italy. All three complete messes and as far as I know in a big argument with the EU Commission about not respecting their union agreements. But every single other EU member accepts all other EU licensed books afaik.

I had another look yesterday as well, and you can add countries like Spain and Belgium to that list. Some Eastern European countries have own legislations as well. And as far as I know, those principles were confirmed to be in agreement with EU law.

So in these countries there's no difference between a bookie operating with an Isle of Man license or none at all. Both are in the same way illegal. And I would assume it's the same in Canada. That's what I meant to say.

**Optional** · 10-25-23, 02:55 AM

Canadians have been able to approach IoM for complaints and help. Europeans too.

They are really helpful to anyone from anywhere regarding their licencees and anyone can sue any of their books in the IoM court system as well.

They were seriously pretty much the best non-major regulator ever for many years. But yeah they are a lot less relevant now as more jurisdictions get their act together and they are no longer EU.

**infotimbo** · 10-25-23, 03:03 AM

yeah, I absolutely agree, from a customer's point of view I would of course appreciate an "offshore" kind of bookie to have an IoM license. It's the position of the state I was talking about.