Bovada live betting question

[False Start]

Just signed up and deposited with Bovada (yes, I know I will get booted there soon)

....do they have an "ACCEPT ALL CHANGES" feature on their live betting platform?
It's very important to me that they have this feature, as, for my own reasons, I don't care if the live moneylines move 5 cents or 10 cents in either way...either for or against me.

I'm talking about just prices, not spreads.

All other books I play at have a setting which says "Accept ANY line/price change."
I'm not seeing that, and I doubt customer service will know what the heck I'm talking about.

Books usually have three settings 1- Accept odds that move in my favor, 2- Accept odds that move against me, and 3- Accept ANY changes.
I'm looking for #3.

Thanks in advance.!

[syjytg]

No they don't

[MT Casings]

Just signed up and deposited with Bovada (yes, I know I will get booted there soon)

....do they have an "ACCEPT ALL CHANGES" feature on their live betting platform?
It's very important to me that they have this feature, as, for my own reasons, I don't care if the live moneylines move 5 cents or 10 cents in either way...either for or against me.

I'm talking about just prices, not spreads.

All other books I play at have a setting which says "Accept ANY line/price change."
I'm not seeing that, and I doubt customer service will know what the heck I'm talking about.

Books usually have three settings 1- Accept odds that move in my favor, 2- Accept odds that move against me, and 3- Accept ANY changes.
I'm looking for #3.

Thanks in advance.!

They don’t have it. The reason the don’t is because they have a delay that locks in bets that favor them. The delay also rejects any bets in your favor. It’s the most predatory software in the industry. Long term it’s almost impossible to beat. Many players on their Community Board have asked for it but they will never enact it. Do yourself a favor and never use it.

[False Start]

Thanks so much. That's awful.
Already put in for a withdrawal.

[Wrongside]

They don’t have it. The reason the don’t is because they have a delay that locks in bets that favor them. The delay also rejects any bets in your favor. It’s the most predatory software in the industry. Long term it’s almost impossible to beat. Many players on their Community Board have asked for it but they will never enact it. Do yourself a favor and never use it.

Ya, their live betting is terrible...It was not that aggressive initially, at least for me, i.e. if line moved in your favor, they still might accept it - ot if line moves against you, they might reject it (saving you from a bad line), but now, it's not the case at all - they come out ahead every time, you do a live b...Where do these books get these feeds btw. They are way ahead of the tv.

[Optional]

Where do these books get these feeds btw. They are way ahead of the tv.

Incident feed providers who pay people to attend games and log the action in real time on an iPad.

[Mugsy777]

thanks Optional ,I did not know that

[False Start]

I can still beat the delay while attending games in person. (and some using an old-fashioned A.M. radio) But I have been booted by almost every book (or severely limited ) for making too much money for having a "crystal ball."
This is why I wanted Bovada to have an "accept all" option.
Beating the delay at hockey games has become much more difficult since the widespread legalization of sports gambling in the USA.
As I've said, you hit them hard and then get booted...and I have no problem with them doing that. I would boot me, too.

[False Start]

In March, I attended 15 NHL games in the NYC area (Rangers, Islanders, and Devils)...and I was only able to get a total of 20 total goals in past-posted to beat the delay. Used to be able to get in about 60 in a 15-game stretch. (Obviously a lot depends on how many goals are actually scored)

Made about $8K last month having a "crystal ball"......when I used to be able to make over $25K in a month.

As I've said in a previous post last month, this is NOT a long-term "golden goose".... and you will get booted or severely limited.
You have to hit them hard and wait for risk management to ban you or limit you, and then it's on to the next book. Rinse and repeat. I've put two kids through elite colleges by doing this since 2016.
My "golden goose" is now silver. It will soon be bronze. By the end of next year, it will likely be cooked.
But what a run it has been.

The overruling of PAPSA, I believe, changed everything for "beating the delay."

[Wrongside]

In March, I attended 15 NHL games in the NYC area (Rangers, Islanders, and Devils)...and I was only able to get a total of 20 total goals in past-posted to beat the delay. Used to be able to get in about 60 in a 15-game stretch. (Obviously a lot depends on how many goals are actually scored)

Made about $8K last month having a "crystal ball"......when I used to be able to make over $25K in a month.

As I've said in a previous post last month, this is NOT a long-term "golden goose".... and you will get booted or severely limited.
You have to hit them hard and wait for risk management to ban you or limit you, and then it's on to the next book. Rinse and repeat. I've put two kids through elite colleges by doing this since 2016.
My "golden goose" is now silver. It will soon be bronze. By the end of next year, it will likely be cooked.
But what a run it has been.

The overruling of PAPSA, I believe, changed everything for "beating the delay."

WTH? That took a turn. You are no better than they are...

[False Start]

I've posted about this here before. I have information that they don't have.
They are foolish to keep the live-line open while the puck is in play.
They are going to be shady with "delays," then I give them a taste of their own medicine right back.

As I said, they have every right to kick me out and limit me. I would, too.
I don't complain about it. They should have better technology....which they do these days. It's getting more difficult to beat, as I've stated.

[Yeshua]

Bodog was great about three years ago on live betting. They made some major changes and it all went to crap. I went black level in points in 3 months. I guess they caught on. They had a pop-up browser live betting and once they removed it. I stopped live betting. And their score and times are wrong.

[Wrongside]

I appreciate your openness and honesty....Respect. But guys like you, indirectly (or directly), have prob cost guys like me a lot of coin

[False Start]

I appreciate your openness and honesty....Respect. But guys like you, indirectly (or directly), have prob cost guys like me a lot of coin

I hear ya. You should try it.

[footballfish]

Doesn't the venue have issues with people recording the game on an iPad? And is there a way of getting/buying this feed?

Incident feed providers who pay people to attend games and log the action in real time on an iPad.

[Optional]

Doesn't the venue have issues with people recording the game on an iPad? And is there a way of getting/buying this feed?

I think you can subscribe. With enough money.

https://www.betradar.com/

[False Start]

There is NOT a person in every arena at the game with an ipad working for the sportsbooks.
The sportsbooks share a third-party source, and there is somebody they pay (who is working from home) who has the "raw feeds" (not the one you see on TV) who reports "incidents." (Power plays, goals, red cards, etc.)
They then take the line down (your in-game screen gets "locked" until all is clear)

Trust me, there is nobody in the stands- working for the sportsbooks- at a Sacred Heart University vs. Fairfield University basketball game, where they have a live-line up at bet365. The same for an AHL hockey game featuring the Bridgeport Islanders and the Hartford Wolfpack.

The live-betting providers outsource this work. There is NOBODY "working for the books" IN ATTENDANCE at these games.
They just pay a lot of money for the fastest feeds.

[Optional]

There is NOT a person in every arena at the game with an ipad working for the sportsbooks.
The sportsbooks share a third-party source, and there is somebody they pay (who is working from home) who has the "raw feeds" (not the one you see on TV) who reports "incidents." (Power plays, goals, red cards, etc.)
They then take the line down (your in-game screen gets "locked" until all is clear)

Trust me, there is nobody in the stands- working for the sportsbooks- at a Sacred Heart University vs. Fairfield University basketball game, where they have a live-line up at bet365. The same for an AHL hockey game featuring the Bridgeport Islanders and the Hartford Wolfpack.

The live-betting providers outsource this work. There is NOBODY "working for the books" IN ATTENDANCE at these games.
They just pay a lot of money for the fastest feeds.

Wow, we must have a few lying members who actually work for a couple of different companies doing it then.

They say they get paid 50-100 bucks per match and get the entry ticket.

Companies even sometimes pay two loggers to attend the matches so they can be sure one of them isnt delaying and betting themselves.



Also weird how Sportsrader have job ads up like this one advertising for people to do it too https://sportradar.wd3.myworkdayjobs...REQ3163?q=live


But thanks for correcting me. I like to learn when I have things wrong.

[False Start]

No problem, Optional.
I have been to tons of small men's and women's college basketball games with less than 200 people in the stands, and nobody is there working for the books. And these are games that are open for live betting on sites like bet365.
I live in Connecticut, on the New York border, and know almost everyone at these games. (The people I don't know are certainly not on their iPads or any other device)
The 3rd-party live betting platforms just pay for the "raw" feeds to the games. Their tv feeds are about 14-30 seconds ahead of "public" t.v. feeds, and about seven seconds ahead of A.M. radio feeds.
When I'm at these hockey games in person, I'm about 5 seconds ahead of the "raw" feeds the 3rd-party in-game services obtain. That's why I often beat the delays...but it is getting much more difficult.
Hope this helps!

[Optional]

Are you now saying what you notice at games trumps what I know, what other SBR posters who do the work say, and the existence of that job advert for it??

No walking back from this at all?? "Trust me, there is nobody in the stands- working for the sportsbooks"


lol. yfi.

[False Start]

Yes, I make a great side-living past-posting NHL games and baseball games....beating the delay.

I was at an Iona vs Fairfield women's basketball game earlier this year. There wasn't 100 people in the tiny gym. Yet, there were still live lines up at a few sportsbooks. There was NOBODY "in the stands" reporting "incidents" such as made baskets, etc. NOBODY WAS THERE FROM ANY SPORTSBOOK OR SERVICE.
Are you that naive? I knew EVERYBODY in the gym. Except the players from Iona, and none of the 19-year girls were reporting "incidents" to a sports radar company or anything like that.
Thay have LIVE FEEDS that you or I don't have access to in our homes.
Go ahead and challenge me on this fact.
I have made $1.3 million courtsiding since 2016.

[False Start]

I have the best feed possible....my OWN eyes right behind the basket in basketball and behind the goal in hockey. As soon as the puck goes in, I click "OVER the period total" or "X team to score next."
What are you not understanding?
NOBODY is getting paid to sit in attendance for a Quinnipiac vs. Rider woman's basketball game. NOBODY.
I just asked the AD today at Q (because of your previous post), and he said "absolutely not."
This is not EPL we are talking about here. This is a MAAC women's basketball game where the players and coaches outnumber the people in the stands.
Been doing this for years. I know. You are guessing.