I'm getting limited by most of the USA sportsbooks ... anything that can be done?

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  • hubiebrown
    SBR Rookie
    • 07-05-19
    • 30

    #1
    I'm getting limited by most of the USA sportsbooks ... anything that can be done?
    I've been "limited" at many USA books already. (Fanduel Fox PointsBet BetRivers TwinSpires Barstool Tipico BetFred).

    I guess they think I can see the future on sports events or something.

    Is there anything that can be done? Can SBR do anything for me?

    By "limited" I mean I try to bet $200 and it comes back that only $14 will be accepted. This is VERY frustrating...

    HubieB
  • KVB
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-29-14
    • 74817

    #2
    Please tell me they aren't limiting you on major sports already.

    Are you limited across the board or just with certain offerings?
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    • lonnie55
      SBR MVP
      • 04-08-16
      • 2689

      #3
      Move to France: https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...e-reasons.html
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 60708

        #4
        Originally posted by hubiebrown
        I've been "limited" at many USA books already. (Fanduel Fox PointsBet BetRivers TwinSpires Barstool Tipico BetFred).

        I guess they think I can see the future on sports events or something.

        Is there anything that can be done? Can SBR do anything for me?

        By "limited" I mean I try to bet $200 and it comes back that only $14 will be accepted. This is VERY frustrating...

        HubieB
        Depending on your state rules, they probably have the legal right to limit you or not accept you at all. I would guess that is true for your state if so many different brands have done it.

        But it's still worth protesting to the regulator about it.
        .
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        • Shifty
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 08-10-08
          • 558

          #5
          They shouldn't give licenses to those frauds. Nothing you can do about it. You could get limits restored if the book ever changes their odds provider or platform. Happened at DK and Caesars recently.
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          • Barrakuda
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-28-18
            • 786

            #6
            Yep, that's the reality of "legalized" gambling. They only want to keep people who will bet their 17% hold same-game parlays or play the casino. I.e., they want zero-risk huge margin business.

            too late for you, I know, but for others, I suggest never asking for a payout and not playing a ton of player props. You'll still get limited, but you may last longer.
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            • Waterstpub87
              SBR MVP
              • 09-09-09
              • 4102

              #7
              A post like this need insight, like :

              I bet only E-Sports and Nascar and they limited me

              or

              I bet NBA and NFL full game spreads, and they limited me.
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              • BrickJames
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 05-05-11
                • 9749

                #8
                That is ridiculous
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                • agon
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 09-10-21
                  • 102

                  #9
                  They want only losers nowdays.I do not understand how Sbr rates them A when most of them have low odds and limit successful players .I don’t get the criteria used for such evaluation.
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                  • kostasblues
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 09-20-20
                    • 832

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hubiebrown
                    I've been "limited" at many USA books already. (Fanduel Fox PointsBet BetRivers TwinSpires Barstool Tipico BetFred).

                    I guess they think I can see the future on sports events or something.

                    Is there anything that can be done? Can SBR do anything for me?

                    By "limited" I mean I try to bet $200 and it comes back that only $14 will be accepted. This is VERY frustrating...

                    HubieB
                    what do you bet Hubie?
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                    • kostasblues
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 09-20-20
                      • 832

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Optional
                      Depending on your state rules, they probably have the legal right to limit you or not accept you at all. I would guess that is true for your state if so many different brands have done it.

                      But it's still worth protesting to the regulator about it.
                      And do so in numbers. If you know anyone who gambles and loses, tell them to sign your petition!
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                      • LongBall52
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-14-20
                        • 1319

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Waterstpub87
                        A post like this need insight, like :

                        I bet only E-Sports and Nascar and they limited me

                        or

                        I bet NBA and NFL full game spreads, and they limited me.
                        For Certain the details of which sport(s) they did this with ---- Or was it any type of bet from $200 limited to $14. ?
                        Did it happen day after day or just now and then ?
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                        • d2bets
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 39990

                          #13
                          Originally posted by KVB
                          Please tell me they aren't limiting you on major sports already.

                          Are you limited across the board or just with certain offerings?
                          Limits are always higher on major sports,, but in my experience when USA books limit, it's across the board as a fraction of their normal/highest limits.

                          I would be very surprised if Fanduel limited to $14. Rivers is expected. Barstool will limit, but not quite that low unless he's talking exclusives.

                          I am quite familiar with limiting practices.
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                          • Daddy89
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 05-09-18
                            • 84

                            #14
                            That's why I keep betting Offshore.
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                            • d2bets
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 39990

                              #15
                              I'd be very surprised if Hubie's $14 limit is for major sports. I've been limited roughly 80x at Barstool and can still bet ~ $600 on NFL pregame sides. Approx. $1.72 on "Barstool Exclusives" lol.
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                              • jtoler
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 12-17-13
                                • 30967

                                #16
                                I remember so many being so happy betting was becoming "legal" still happy?
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                                • d2bets
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 39990

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jtoler
                                  I remember so many being so happy betting was becoming "legal" still happy?
                                  Yes. Still won plenty and will win more. Not as grim as some paint it.
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65174

                                    #18
                                    Isn't the OP Mr. Brown here the same guy who cried "I got screwed at 5Dimes" a year or so ago.

                                    I'm smelling agenda here, either that or my puppy dog just cut one.
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                                    • Natty68
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 05-11-14
                                      • 550

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Daddy89
                                      That's why I keep betting Offshore.
                                      ^^^ this^^^

                                      They'll use the old WalMart model....the local Dept of Revenues will drive out all the great offshores like CRIS out of their state so there's nothing left but chitty Draft Kings. They'll hassle them to the point where they'll do what Bovada did with Jersey/NY a few years back and decide it's not worth the hassle and stop servicing that particular state. I personally know several guys who have been cripple-limited at the Draft Kings in New Hampshire and the Will Hill in Rhode Island. People should be careful what they wish for. The offshores were humming along nicely with crypto now who knows.
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                                      • BrickJames
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 05-05-11
                                        • 9749

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Natty68
                                        ^^^ this^^^

                                        They'll use the old WalMart model....the local Dept of Revenues will drive out all the great offshores like CRIS out of their state so there's nothing left but chitty Draft Kings. They'll hassle them to the point where they'll do what Bovada did with Jersey/NY a few years back and decide it's not worth the hassle and stop servicing that particular state. I personally know several guys who have been cripple-limited at the Draft Kings in New Hampshire and the Will Hill in Rhode Island. People should be careful what they wish for. The offshores were humming along nicely with crypto now who knows.
                                        The locals are going to clean up in those states.
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                                        • harvesters
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 01-31-09
                                          • 272

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by BrickJames
                                          The locals are going to clean up in those states.
                                          I have every intention of continuing to play at good offshore books - getting the government involved is a double-edged sword....good offshores don't need regulation.
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                                          • BrickJames
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 05-05-11
                                            • 9749

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by harvesters
                                            I have every intention of continuing to play at good offshore books - getting the government involved is a double-edged sword....good offshores don't need regulation.
                                            Yes but what happens when a good offshore books won't take your business because of what state you live in?

                                            After the state-regulated books limit you to $14 a bet the only option will be a good local.
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                                            • luckylefty73
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 06-15-21
                                              • 61

                                              #23
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65174

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by BrickJames

                                                After the state-regulated books limit you to $14 a bet the only option will be a good local.
                                                The local here I've known since I moved here 16 years ago collects and pays 'envelopes' every Tuesday at the sports bar up the street.

                                                He goes by "Buzzy" and Buzzy has been at the sports bar wrapping up business every Tuesday evening for over 20 years I'm told.
                                                Always there, without fail, or he sends his son.

                                                Any-hoo, about twelve years ago give or take at the height of the offshore betting boom I asked "Hey Buzz, is the offshore craze hurting business"?

                                                He laughed, scoffed might be a better word and said to me "f\*\*k no, and I'm not the least bit concerned going forward either"

                                                A couple of Tuesdays ago I ran into Buzz coming out of the sports bar while on a leash walk with my puppy.
                                                I say "Hiya Buzz, how you been, haven't seen you in months"?
                                                He answers with that gravel voice of his, cigar in mouth, "Couldn't be better Billy, couldn't be better."

                                                Sixteen years later, and business "couldn't be better".
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388189

                                                  #25
                                                  People will always bet on credit

                                                  Almost all guys that get limited bet bad lines in the prop markets nobody wants those guys or arbing a low liquid market
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                                                  • Natty68
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 05-11-14
                                                    • 550

                                                    #26
                                                    These legal books like DK, Fanduel, and Sugar house ARE NOTHING MORE THAN BRICK AND MORTAR BOVADAS........as long as you're firing on 4-teamers and taking bad numbers you'll be fine. Get to them with any regularity and see what happens. Full disclosure..... I have not yet been limited.
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                                                    • d2bets
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 39990

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Natty68
                                                      These legal books like DK, Fanduel, and Sugar house ARE NOTHING MORE THAN BRICK AND MORTAR BOVADAS........as long as you're firing on 4-teamers and taking bad numbers you'll be fine. Get to them with any regularity and see what happens. Full disclosure..... I have not yet been limited.
                                                      Then how do you know? And there isn't just "limited" and "not limited". There are always limits, so it is just the extent of it. My experience is not quite bearing out your hypothesis, although there is some kernel of truth.

                                                      And how are they "brick and mortar"?
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                                                      • BrickJames
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 05-05-11
                                                        • 9749

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Natty68
                                                        These legal books like DK, Fanduel, and Sugar house ARE NOTHING MORE THAN BRICK AND MORTAR BOVADAS........as long as you're firing on 4-teamers and taking bad numbers you'll be fine. Get to them with any regularity and see what happens. Full disclosure..... I have not yet been limited.
                                                        Bovada? I have big balance at bovada never had a issue
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                                                        • Natty68
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 05-11-14
                                                          • 550

                                                          #29
                                                          Respectfully my friend... have you taken any payouts? A huge percentage of offshore customer NEVER get a payout. They just keep reloading. Having a big balance is VERY different from someone who consistently wins and cashes. I can pretty much guarantee IF YOU SUCCESSFULLY ATTACK THE LIVE MARKET ON BOVADA YOU WILL BE LIMITED IN ASTOUNDINGLY SHORT ORDER. Good thing about Bodog/Bovada they will pay you what they owe you when they bounce you.

                                                          Brick and mortar refers to the fact they are actual brick and mortar buildings where you physically walk in and bet as opposed to an offshore online.

                                                          As I had mentioned.....I haven't been limited but absolutely know several people who have.
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                                                          • Miz
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 08-30-09
                                                            • 695

                                                            #30
                                                            glad to hear this. Offshore will do even better as more people get into sports betting and realize they can do way better offshore. Domestic books are laughable. Hardrock went live in FL, with awesome 20 cent MLB lines on the world series. LOL, and don't forget the W-2G forms you will get for wins over $600.
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                                                            • Benny00
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 11-10-21
                                                              • 4

                                                              #31
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                                                              • Optional
                                                                Administrator
                                                                • 06-10-10
                                                                • 60708

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                Then how do you know? And there isn't just "limited" and "not limited". There are always limits, so it is just the extent of it. My experience is not quite bearing out your hypothesis, although there is some kernel of truth.

                                                                And how are they "brick and mortar"?
                                                                Mine either. Bovada seem remarkably tolerant of winners to me. Even when mostly live betting. Spoken to couple of people with 6 figure profits in there and not collared very much, and one person with over a mill, just in the last month or so.

                                                                I know guys betting mostly NASCAR and F1 who win and withdraw just about every week and 20-60k up for the year with still bettable limits too.

                                                                Not exaggerating. And yes I am surprised how tolerant they seem to have become.
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