Players beware! Myb casino / my bookie seized $210,000 winnings from account ad-hoc!

[pologq]

Real Nasty Gremlins. Anytime someone starts winning they are hired by casinos to come and screw you.

[ace7550]

Allow Robert De Niro to explain...

[ace7550]

I hope this guy gets paid- I do. Especially because it's on MyBookie because who here doesn't want to see them have to pay this man his money.

However, I really don't see that being the end result here. I'm more surprised he ended up being paid what he did already.

I do to. At another book he would have a better chance.

[pologq]

Allow Robert De Niro to explain...

don rickles faces are awesome in that movie

[RAIDER1223]

What was the highest amount you ever won on one spin at this game?

Highest amount? Maybe $2,000. Very seldom. Very.

[Crusherrr]

Highest amount? Maybe $2,000. Very seldom. Very.

You're digging your own grave here now Raider. Highest win $2,000? But $200K + in winnings.

[ace7550]

Highest amount? Maybe $2,000. Very seldom. Very.

I figured it was in that range.
GL to you Raider. Keep us updated.

[ace7550]

You're digging your own grave here now Raider. Highest win $2,000? But $200K + in winnings.

Yeah, I was going to say it was possible if he had won two huge 100k+ jackpots or something.
$5 bets and biggest win was $2,000 doesn't = up 200k unless the game is +ev.

[RAIDER1223]

You're digging your own grave here now Raider. Highest win $2,000? But $200K + in winnings.

What are you talking about? No grave being dug whatsoever. I played 7-10 slot games over a 9-month period. Two different Operators of those games (Betsoft and Nucleus) I lost a ton of money in many, many sessions. Amounts of those losses that are more than you can imagine. Reels of wealth...massive losses....Book of Darkness....massive losses......Fairies....massive losses......Take Santa's Shop...big losses.....Take the Bank......big losses. In the end, I got lucky and had a winning balance overall. All it is. Luck, period.

Pay me.

[RAIDER1223]

I figured it was in that range.
GL to you Raider. Keep us updated.

Thank you ace7550. Greatly appreciate your support.

[ace7550]

Amounts of those losses that are more than you can imagine.

More than you can imagine Crusher

[Crusherrr]

More than you can imagine Crusher

Let him think what he wants to think

[RAIDER1223]

Maybe I should write a book or something since many of you guys are so interested in a some sort of a "theory" about how I won, how I can possibly win so much. That somehow I'm a genius and know how to break-apart online slot games created and hosted by two different Operators (Betsoft and Nucleus) that use world-class RNG technology which are both encrypted via SSL and are completely random in its spin results over billions of potential combinations.

It's comical actually.

Someone gets lucky like myself and wins big. The casino just can't handle it, so they freak-out and ghost your for 3-5 weeks, strip you of your balance, and claim it is because of some "glitch" in their slot games.

Yet, Betsoft and Nucleus just sit on the sidelines with popcorn, just like Gaming Curacao and e-Gaming Curacao are. My Bookie is looking around like "WTF", we've got to stop paying this guy because we are losing our asses off here. That can't be! We are an online casino. We are not supposed to lose. We say people can win, but in reality, they're not supposed to. So, let's huddle-up and figure something out as to not have to pay this guy. I've got it, lets cite that the slot games had "glitches" for a full year. Then we can strip him of all of his winnings and save our quarterly revenue figures and our operation. Does this work for everyone? Yes! Ok, hey My Bookie "auditor" over there? Go ahead and disable his account and don't tell him anything. We'll figure something out in the next few weeks. Sound good? Cool! That's the plan then!"

Unreal man.

I got lucky. I won. No "glitches". No breaking-apart online casino games. That's ridiculous. It's all bullshit. They stole my legitimate and rightful money.

Just pay me.

[RAIDER1223]

Let him think what he wants to think

I will. I know the facts. It's me. I'm the Player. Lucky brother. All it is. Don't waste any more of your time trying to solve a case that isn't there as to how I got lucky and won playing several slots games manufactured by two different well-known Operators. There is nothing to solve but for My Bookie to pay me.

[ace7550]

If you read up on Standard Deviation it will help you understand why we say that it's mathematically impossible.
For example, if you flip a coin 100 times standard deviation says that you will get heads 45-55 times 68% of the time and 40-60 times 95% of the time.
According to standard deviation (it's a mathematical principal, not a theory) the game/s you were playing was +ev.

[RAIDER1223]

If you read up on Standard Deviation it will help you understand why we say that it's mathematically impossible.
For example, if you flip a coin 100 times standard deviation says that you will get heads 45-55 times 68% of the time and 40-60 times 95% of the time.
According to standard deviation (it's a mathematical principal, not a theory) the game/s you were playing was +ev.

Respectfully, that is totally irrelevant. Who cares? I played slot games and won. All luck. No skill. No standard deviations. No glitches. Nothing. Just luck.

Just pay me.

[RAIDER1223]

If you read up on Standard Deviation it will help you understand why we say that it's mathematically impossible.
For example, if you flip a coin 100 times standard deviation says that you will get heads 45-55 times 68% of the time and 40-60 times 95% of the time.
According to standard deviation (it's a mathematical principal, not a theory) the game/s you were playing was +ev.

Standard Deviations and all of that garbage is for My Bookie and the slot Operators to figure-out if there is an alleged issue with that stuff and probabilities. I'm a Player. I'm not involved in that shit.

It's like a restaurant man. If the food and service suck ass, then the Customer is at fault? The Customer is responsible for shitty food, shitty cooking, and shitty service?

Nope.

Just pay me My Bookie. Then you might have some customer confidence again for Players to play with your casino and book.

[Crusherrr]

Just pay me My Bookie. Then you might have some customer confidence again for Players to play with your casino and book.

The issue here is simply they dont even have much customer confidence to begin with. So will they drop a rating here tomorrow if they don't pay you? No, probably not.

Will I stop playing there? Also no. But I already limit my action there because I don't have tremendous trust in them as it is. They are okay, but not great.

[RAIDER1223]

The issue here is simply they dont even have much customer confidence to begin with. So will they drop a rating here tomorrow if they don't pay you? No, probably not.

Will I stop playing there? Also no. But I already limit my action there because I don't have tremendous trust in them as it is. They are okay, but not great.

Good point. I respect your thoughts.

I just hope they pay me. I did nothing wrong. I deserve to be paid my winnings. It would be good PR for them and it builds tremendous confidence for the Player community to want to play with their establishment.

[SportsBettor74]

If you read up on Standard Deviation it will help you understand why we say that it's mathematically impossible.
For example, if you flip a coin 100 times standard deviation says that you will get heads 45-55 times 68% of the time and 40-60 times 95% of the time.
According to standard deviation (it's a mathematical principal, not a theory) the game/s you were playing was +ev.

Extracted from MyBookie Terms and Conditions:


"We reserve the right to deduct from your account any payouts, bonuses, or winnings due to activities which include:

...

7. Unfair advantage, which is defined as the abuse of a fault, loophole, or error in our software."

[BrickJames]

Maybe I should write a book or something since many of you guys are so interested in a some sort of a "theory" about how I won, how I can possibly win so much. That somehow I'm a genius and know how to break-apart online slot games created and hosted by two different Operators (Betsoft and Nucleus) that use world-class RNG technology which are both encrypted via SSL and are completely random in its spin results over billions of potential combinations.

It's comical actually.

Someone gets lucky like myself and wins big. The casino just can't handle it, so they freak-out and ghost your for 3-5 weeks, strip you of your balance, and claim it is because of some "glitch" in their slot games.

Yet, Betsoft and Nucleus just sit on the sidelines with popcorn, just like Gaming Curacao and e-Gaming Curacao are. My Bookie is looking around like "WTF", we've got to stop paying this guy because we are losing our asses off here. That can't be! We are an online casino. We are not supposed to lose. We say people can win, but in reality, they're not supposed to. So, let's huddle-up and figure something out as to not have to pay this guy. I've got it, lets cite that the slot games had "glitches" for a full year. Then we can strip him of all of his winnings and save our quarterly revenue figures and our operation. Does this work for everyone? Yes! Ok, hey My Bookie "auditor" over there? Go ahead and disable his account and don't tell him anything. We'll figure something out in the next few weeks. Sound good? Cool! That's the plan then!"

Unreal man.

I got lucky. I won. No "glitches". No breaking-apart online casino games. That's ridiculous. It's all bullshit. They stole my legitimate and rightful money.

Just pay me.

You already wrote the first hundred pages in this thread, every time you post it's like a 2000 word essay

[RAIDER1223]

You already wrote the first hundred pages in this thread, every time you post it's like a 2000 word essay

Cool. Glad you are reading the essays. Apparently you have been interested in reading them.

We I get paid, the essays (as you say) will stop.

[Is this post better for you? Short and sweet?]

[BrickJames]

Cool. Glad you are reading the essays. Apparently you have been interested in reading them.

We I get paid, the essays (as you say) will stop.

[Is this post better for you? Short and sweet?]

I have been reading them and I do hope you get paid.

I hate MYbookie and constantly read complaints about them. All their BS advertising on social media is annoying.

[RAIDER1223]

I have been reading them and I do hope you get paid.

I hate MYbookie and constantly read complaints about them. All their BS advertising on social media is annoying.

I appreciate that, Sir. I hope they do the right thing and pay. Seems like the large majority agrees. Appreciate your support!

[lonnie55]

"We reserve the right to deduct from your account any payouts, bonuses, or winnings due to activities which include:

...

7. Unfair advantage, which is defined as the abuse of a fault, loophole, or error in our software."

Well, ToS of casinos and sportsbooks are BS anyway. Basically >99% of books have a clause in their terms which says that they can do whatever tf they want.

What's more important in this case is that MYB Casino doesn't have a valid license for customers who are betting from the US. So, as long as OP hasn't wagered from a location where the license is valid, according to their master-license holder Gaming Curacao, then there is no legal basis for holding MYB accountable.

OP has to rely on the goodwill of MYB Casino.

Personally, I think there is zero chance he gets fully paid. But maybe there is a small chance that he will receive at least parts of his remaining balance.

[bfl1000]

Congrats on the $84K and I hope you get the rest.

I do see the Take the Bank slot on Betanysports.I also see one called Take Santa's Shop. I'm not sure if that's the same as Take Santa's Bank. How much did you bet per spin with your initial deposit?

Thanks.

[pologq]

I have been reading them and I do hope you get paid.

I hate MYbookie and constantly read complaints about them. All their BS advertising on social media is annoying.

agreed. i want nothing more than to see them get fcuked like this and have to pay just out of spite for their annoying advertising. add in the amount of people who have been screwed before OP and it would a good revenge of karma.

[DontTailMe]

What are you talking about? No grave being dug whatsoever. I played 7-10 slot games over a 9-month period. Two different Operators of those games (Betsoft and Nucleus) I lost a ton of money in many, many sessions. Amounts of those losses that are more than you can imagine. Reels of wealth...massive losses....Book of Darkness....massive losses......Fairies....massive losses......Take Santa's Shop...big losses.....Take the Bank......big losses. In the end, I got lucky and had a winning balance overall. All it is. Luck, period.

Pay me.

You keep saying this, but all that matters is your net. Anyone who plays slot for as long as you did is going to lose more money than you can imagine. Math says you should have lost a hell of a lot more because your up about $300k.

[DontTailMe]

by some people's viewpoint, if they found any type of systematic +EV opportunity, they should not take it because it is exploitative play. So if 5 years ago they won 100k on correlated parlays then this would be a self-policing activity, that the player should have immediately alerted the book about, right? He shouldn't be paid then right? Shitty live betting apps that are easy to beat also fall under this nebulous set of rules? No, they ****** up, and are responsible for the results of their software, unless they can prove he used inside information to exploit a flaw. In which case, PROVIDE HIM WITH THE EVIDENCE. You don't get it both ways.

I think you and I are kind of talking past each other in a way. There's a lot you've written in your past couple of posts which I agree with - mot of it actually. I WANT the player to be paid. I want OP to be paid even if he was knowingly engaged in the exploit of the software rather than merely being a passive recipient. Not only because I can't stand MyCrookie but also because I'm a players advocate. I think rules around voiding player wins are bogus even if they exist and are lawful in some jurisdictions. And i agree with you that MyBookie should have to provide evidence of foul play, even though they almost certainly won't.

But all of the above doesn't prevent me from using logic and math to figure out what most likely happened here.

[BrickJames]

The slots you spoke of are still up at softbet, I'm guessing the glitch was fixed?

[RAIDER1223]

The slots you spoke of are still up at softbet, I'm guessing the glitch was fixed?

I don't know. My account has been disabled since March 11, 2021.

[DontTailMe]

The slots you spoke of are still up at softbet, I'm guessing the glitch was fixed?

According to @Crusherrr, he informed Bovada of a defect which led to huge profits and it took them over a year to patch it. So not necessarily. I'm sure it's a cost/benefit decision. There may not be many people who figure it out, and they know how to catch people who do.

[RAIDER1223]

Congrats on the $84K and I hope you get the rest.

I do see the Take the Bank slot on Betanysports.I also see one called Take Santa's Shop. I'm not sure if that's the same as Take Santa's Bank. How much did you bet per spin with your initial deposit?

Thanks.

Thank you. Appreciate your support. I hope I get paid too.

I don't recall the average bet when the deposit was made. That was back in June, 2020. IDK, may $1-3 per spin. Don't really know though.

[ace7550]

Standard Deviations and all of that garbage

[RAIDER1223]

LOL.