Players beware! Myb casino / my bookie seized $210,000 winnings from account ad-hoc!

[RAIDER1223]

has SBR heard anything from MyBookie about this?

I have not heard from SBR whether they have communicated with MyBookie. Myself, and I'm sure many others, are anxious to find out.

It will be interesting to learn if SBR is communicating with Betsoft as well.

[RAIDER1223]

Update (April 20, 2021 10:57 AM EDT):

My account remains locked. No response from My Bookie or Betsoft yet.

Hopefully SBR is in communication with both Organizations.

[Roger T. Bannon]

This is not going to cost MyBookie a cent. They are most likely going to get tons of deposits now that people know they will pay out $84,000. They are not a forum book. They have built a huge operation despite being called scammers on forums from Day 1.

Good luck getting any gambler to not deposit at a book because you got stiffed.

[juicername]

This is ****** up. Flaw or no flaw on the slot, Mybookie needs to pay this man his money or refund every single loser from their slot machines during this time frame.

[pologq]

This is ****** up. Flaw or no flaw on the slot, Mybookie needs to pay this man his money or refund every single loser from their slot machines during this time frame.

i lean this way also

[captrobey]

This is not going to cost MyBookie a cent. They are most likely going to get tons of deposits now that people know they will pay out $84,000. They are not a forum book. They have built a huge operation despite being called scammers on forums from Day 1.

Good luck getting any gambler to not deposit at a book because you got stiffed.

I would think way more would not want to deposit at a book that is trying to stiff a player out of 2/3 of what he won. I know i would not.

[Roger T. Bannon]

I would think way more would not want to deposit at a book that is trying to stiff a player out of 2/3 of what he won. I know i would not.

Do you think they are going to look at the fact that they did not pay $210,000 or the fact that they paid $84,000. Which you are going to look at if they come out with a decent bonus. I know what you are going to tell me but what is your average gambler going to do. I know what I am going to do. I wish RAIDER the best but I want my $84,000.

[RAIDER1223]

This is not going to cost MyBookie a cent. They are most likely going to get tons of deposits now that people know they will pay out $84,000. They are not a forum book. They have built a huge operation despite being called scammers on forums from Day 1.

Good luck getting any gambler to not deposit at a book because you got stiffed.

Their ratings are taking a beating. Their PR is taking a beating. Their revenues are down, way down. Their operation in Miami, FL is off a side-road where there are junkie warehouses which look like shady, criminal activity takes place.

You're in the vast minority of negative outlook and understanding.

I/others will continue to work towards a positive resolution, with hopes of capturing the balance back...and should that occur....myself and others will make certain to do the right thing and advertise that My Bookie ended-up making this right and being commended for that.

Outside of that, I think most of the people in this thread have grown tired, unfortunately, of your consistent, negative comments and outlook regarding the larger issue / cause here. With that stated, perhaps it may be best for you to jump in another forum thread and continue your negativity elsewhere.

I'm sure most posters in this thread would agree.

Best of luck to you.

[RAIDER1223]

i lean this way also

Amen! Thanks pologq!

[RAIDER1223]

This is ****** up. Flaw or no flaw on the slot, Mybookie needs to pay this man his money or refund every single loser from their slot machines during this time frame.

Thank you juicername! Appreciate your support!

[captrobey]

Do you think they are going to look at the fact that they did not pay $210,000 or the fact that they paid $84,000. Which you are going to look at if they come out with a decent bonus. I know what you are going to tell me but what is your average gambler going to do. I know what I am going to do. I wish RAIDER the best but I want my $84,000.

I would have to have exhausted every other option before i would even consider depositing with them. And then i would have to get a great bonus and i would cash out way way lower maybe if i got ahead by what i put in with them i would feel more secure putting a lower amount in there. Like if i netted at least $5000 out of them i would be ok with putting $400 in there over and over figuring if they screwed me i would be pissed but i am still ahead. But i have so many books with average to above average bonuses that i know will pay me i would never consider this place.

But i am open to trying other books i always watch on here what others say. A bunch were talking about yboi so i tried them a couple times smaller deposits. But the limits are too low for me there . I get like a new book a week texting me it kind of gets annoying. Yboi kept asking me to deposit and i declines and the guy asked me what it would take to deposit there instead if the other books . I was honest and took the time to write him back and let him know. Basically i get way better limits and if i am only going to deposit a couple times that week i will do it where i get the limits i want and a good bonus and where i know i have been payed before . But i would still be willing to deposit a lower amount at yboi since a few at sbr liked them. Never heard back from the guy or even a thank you for taking the time and letting them know .

[Roger T. Bannon]

I would have to have exhausted every other option before i would even consider depositing with them. And then i would have to get a great bonus and i would cash out way way lower maybe if i got ahead by what i put in with them i would feel more secure putting a lower amount in there. Like if i netted at least $5000 out of them i would be ok with putting $400 in there over and over figuring if they screwed me i would be pissed but i am still ahead. But i have so many books with average to above average bonuses that i know will pay me i would never consider this place.

But i am open to trying other books i always watch on here what others say. A bunch were talking about yboi so i tried them a couple times smaller deposits. But the limits are too low for me there . I get like a new book a week texting me it kind of gets annoying. Yboi kept asking me to deposit and i declines and the guy asked me what it would take to deposit there instead if the other books . I was honest and took the time to write him back and let him know. Basically i get way better limits and if i am only going to deposit a couple times that week i will do it where i get the limits i want and a good bonus and where i know i have been payed before . But i would still be willing to deposit a lower amount at yboi since a few at sbr liked them. Never heard back from the guy or even a thank you for taking the time and letting them know .

OK then. MyBookie makes its living on $500 deposits.

[captrobey]

OK then. MyBookie makes its living on $500 deposits.

I was curious so i peeked on their site their bonuses are nothing really special 25% fp normally other then 50% fp initial deposit . I could not find limits. I just really hate what they did to Raider especially with how the casino destroyed me in the past when someone finally takes it to one of them they still have to screw them. If they would even slow pay him give him something show some good faith i would feel a little better towards them but they are not even doing that.

I also looked them up on just a search for reviews and out of 100% reviews 74% were rated "Bad". Oh interesting this has to be Raider there is one about someone losing $210000 on there . There is even one guy who placed a $50 bet on the SB and they did not even want to pay that. Yea i think i will avoid them lol.

[ace7550]

This is not going to cost MyBookie a cent. They are most likely going to get tons of deposits now that people know they will pay out $84,000. They are not a forum book. They have built a huge operation despite being called scammers on forums from Day 1.

Good luck getting any gambler to not deposit at a book because you got stiffed.

I am a gambler. I would not deposit at Mybookie because he got stiffed.

[RAIDER1223]

I am a gambler. I would not deposit at Mybookie because he got stiffed.

ace7550...right!

This the exact affect of a matter like this. A gambler whom will now not make a deposit now because of a situation like this.

This type of a result will only exponentially grow, whereby more and more Gamblers will not do business with My Bookie. They can ill-afford that. No online casino can.

[Roger T. Bannon]

I am a gambler. I would not deposit at Mybookie because he got stiffed.

You would not have deposited anyway so no loss.

[Roger T. Bannon]

Their ratings are taking a beating. Their PR is taking a beating. Their revenues are down, way down. Their operation in Miami, FL is off a side-road where there are junkie warehouses which look like shady, criminal activity takes place.

LOL. You are beginning to sound like Baghdad Bob. I highly doubt SBR moves their rating even if they stiff you.

[captrobey]

ace7550...right!

This the exact affect of a matter like this. A gambler whom will now not make a deposit now because of a situation like this.

This type of a result will only exponentially grow, whereby more and more Gamblers will not do business with My Bookie. They can ill-afford that. No online casino can.

I hope you get all the rest of your money my friend but wow you must have had an angel watching over you at least awhile because after looking at how so many people were screwed on that review site i am shocked you at least were able to get out what you did. On there looks like 2 people won i guess a $50 bet on the SB and they both did not get paid.

[DontTailMe]

Just skimmed through this whole thing.
There's two things that don't add up for me.
1. The odds of winning that much over a long period of time at a casino game mathematically designed to rape the shit out of you are beyond improbable.
2. If there really was a glitch in the game it should be easy to show. Why not just show what happened if this is true?
Something isn't adding up here.
That being said, the onus is on Mybookie. They either need to show how the game glitched or pay the man.
Good Luck Raider!

Could be a lot of reasons. Maybe they aren't sure exactly what he exploit was yet. Maybe they haven't been able to patch it yet, so they don't want to tip off other players. Maybe they never want to reveal it because it would give people ideas on how to look for similar exploits which they don't know about yet.

[DontTailMe]

I am not arguing that the winnings are normal. But whatever the reason, they are winnings and the player is not responsible for knowing if a game is possibly flawed... he is just the player, playing a game. What a terrible business decision. This company has radio ads all over the place and those are expensive. Imagine if they simply bragged about paying out a monster amount, and took credit for that. If people got wind that they honored a payout this big, they would probably get it all back in a matter of a month. This book is dog shit, and yes, it is a free roll .. they pay slow hoping to limit the damage, allowing the player ample time to blow it back and when he doesn't they ultimately just take it (some or all, doesnt matter). They even leave the balance present while pending payouts are going for 6 days, hoping the balance dips below it so they can cancel the payout.

This post and a few others in this thread are assuming that OP is not a knowledgeable actor in this glitch. He's just playing the game and these huge profits are being thrown at him for only God knows what reason.. But if he's not purposely exploiting something about the software, then why isn't the game profitable for everyone? Yes, that would be ridiculous. You'd have a +EV game for players, and it wouldn't even exist on the site anymore.

That's my point. This player is most likely doing something different.

Again, I don't care. I hope he gets paid.

[RAIDER1223]

This post and a few others in this thread are assuming that OP is not a knowledgeable actor in this glitch. He's just playing the game and these huge profits are being thrown at him for only God knows what reason.. But if he's not purposely exploiting something about the software, then why isn't the game profitable for everyone? Yes, that would be ridiculous. You'd have a +EV game for players, and it wouldn't even exist on the site anymore.

That's my point. This player is most likely doing something different.

Again, I don't care. I hope he gets paid.

Thank you DontTailMe. I am hopeful that I will be paid too. SBR and and this forum is greatly supporting this effort.

Interesting take, however. Enjoyed reading that theory.

To clarify, however, this Player was literally clicking the "spin" button with a mouse on a desktop computer or placing the index finder on the "spin" button on a cell phone device, after making the selected bet. The Player used his eyes to watch the spin reels go around until those reels stopped. The Player then used his eyes to look at what the result was; which was either a win or a loss. This occurred through multiple slot games, offered by BOTH Betsoft and Nucleus. All it was:

1. Select a bet.
2. Use a mouse or a finger to hit the "spin" button.
3. See slot reels go round and round.
4. See result.
5. Repeat the above via multiple slot games offered by both Betsoft AND Nucleus.

As such, My Bookie seized the entire balance ad-hoc, without notice or reason until 3 weeks later.

Account remains disabled as of this hour.

(Software "glitches" for a year)

OK - sure. Right.

PAY ME MY BOOKIE!

[captrobey]

What if he cheated because he called upon the powers of the Dark Lord ?

[Miz]

it is not the player's responsibility to ensure the game is -EV... lol. The end.

[DontTailMe]

it is not the player's responsibility to ensure the game is -EV... lol. The end.

It is their responsibility to not actively exploit glitches though. I don't know exactly what happened here. But as several have pointed out, being up $300k over "hundreds of thousands" of spins just isn't realistic.

[RAIDER1223]

It is their responsibility to not actively exploit glitches though. I don't know exactly what happened here. But as several have pointed out, being up $300k over "hundreds of thousands" of spins just isn't realistic.

Another interesting part with this mess with My Bookie is:

Where is Betsoft in all of this?

Why are they not saying anything?

What about the Agreement between My Bookie and Betsoft?

Is there a "Hold Harmless" clause for one or both of the Parties?

What about an insurance policy endorsement for Casino and/or Operator fault or negligence?

Where is Gaming Curacao and e-Gaming Curacao in this matter? Have they taken a back seat to watch this matter unfold between My Bookie and Betsoft?

Is Nucleus now involved since those games were played too...winning some and losing a whole lot more?

Seems like an "oh shit" moment whereby all of them are just looking at each other and waiting for someone to step up to make the fist move.

Meanwhile, my account remains disabled and my bank account is ready for my payout from March 9 to be moved from "rejected" to "approved".

SBR is currently putting some heat on My Bookie. This will only continue. SBR has taken this matter extremely seriously.

Grab your popcorn folks. This will be one of the most talked about and most interesting online casino matters in ripping-off a Player that has been seen in several years; perhaps ever. It may turn out to carry more publicity than the Betsoft slot game jackpot scandal of 2016.

https://www.casinolistings.com/news/2016/06/warning-avoid-all-betsoft-slots-and-casino-games

Not good for My Bookie.

[JoeCool20]

I think we can safely say that it was not a false premise and it is not a freeroll when you get paid out $84,000 on a $2,000 deposit.

If I were him, I'd want to get paid and he deserves to get paid because he was smart enough to figure out. I am also sure if I was MyBookie I would feel $84,000 was sufficient to have paid out.

I just think the precedent here with offshore is that they do not pay on the flawed game once it is discovered and I do not expect him to be paid any further.

LOL What in the hell do you expect him to do? Stop playing the slots that are winning and only

play the ones that are losing?

[Mugsy777]

Bottom line is this , the player and My Bookie are both crooks , yes , that's the bottom line , you guy's have no clue how much I despise My Bookie , Jake Slater sucks C*** and crooked C*** The player found a glitch in the system , I do not blame him one bit , not one bit for trying to take advantage of it , is he a thief? Yes , is My Bookie thieves? yes , so it's up to each person to conclude who get's the money here

[Roger T. Bannon]

LOL What in the hell do you expect him to do? Stop playing the slots that are winning and only

play the ones that are losing?

No, I expect him to keep playing and I expect him to not get paid.

[RAIDER1223]

Bottom line is this , the player and My Bookie are both crooks , yes , that's the bottom line , you guy's have no clue how much I despise My Bookie , Jake Slater sucks C*** and crooked C*** The player found a glitch in the system , I do not blame him one bit , not one bit for trying to take advantage of it , is he a thief? Yes , is My Bookie thieves? yes , so it's up to each person to conclude who get's the money here

Careful Mugsy777. I'm not a thief/crook. That is a totally baseless comment. I am a Player like you. If a Player wins against a Casino, tough shit. That is the line of business with assumption of financial risk that they are in. If they can't handle Players winning, then they should not be in that line of business.

Often times, Players win. It's great publicity for a sportsbook or casino, and My Bookie can't seem to understand that. Sometimes Players win big. Often times Players lose some, and many times Players lose big. We've all been there. Many times.

But calling me a "thief/crook" because I won overall is not only unfounded and totally baseless, it is also insulting.

I'm glad I won. You'd be glad if you won too and you were in my shoes.

The only "crook/thief" here is My Bookie. Why? Because they stole MY money. Period.

[Miz]

It is their responsibility to not actively exploit glitches though. I don't know exactly what happened here. But as several have pointed out, being up $300k over "hundreds of thousands" of spins just isn't realistic.

This is vague and unable to be defined. You are missing the point entirely. It is not the player's responsibility to determine what is a realistic win percentage (again unable to be quantified). In a brick and mortar casino if a player did well on a machine, he would expect to be paid wouldn't he? Do you think the pit boss would walk over and say "you exploited a glitch" sorry you're not getting paid... unless he was tampering with the machine (unable to be done online). This argument is just flawed. sorry man, no disrespect. Again, if they want to stiff him, show him tangible evidence about the flaw. You don't get it both ways... you don't get to stiff him, then not give an explanation... one or the other... or better yet, lick your wounds, look at this as free advertising and pay the man.

[Miz]

No, I expect him to keep playing and I expect him to not get paid.

Yes, a free roll. Got it.

[RAIDER1223]

This is vague and unable to be defined. You are missing the point entirely. It is not the player's responsibility to determine what is a realistic win percentage (again unable to be quantified). In a brick and mortar casino if a player did well on a machine, he would expect to be paid wouldn't he? Do you think the pit boss would walk over and say "you exploited a glitch" sorry you're not getting paid... unless he was tampering with the machine (unable to be done online). This argument is just flawed. sorry man, no disrespect. Again, if they want to stiff him, show him tangible evidence about the flaw. You don't get it both ways... you don't get to stiff him, then not give an explanation... one or the other... or better yet, lick your wounds, look at this as free advertising and pay the man.

Correct Mr. Miz! You get it, Sir! Thank you.

[RAIDER1223]

No, I expect him to keep playing and I expect him to not get paid.

Can't play the slots when your account is disabled. That was discussed in the very first post and reiterated each day thereafter., including today.

[RAIDER1223]

Since Mr. Slater's name has been mentioned by several of you in this post. Mr. Slater is the General Manager of My Bookie. Please feel free to email Mr. Slater your support in having My Bookie do the right thing and put the entire $210,085.70 back on the account and re-enable the account.

Here is Mr. Slater's email address for those interested:

jake@mybookie.ag

For additional My Bookie contacts (if you would like to "cc;" any of them):

Account Services: accountservices@mybcasinomail.com
MYB Casino Customer Service: support@mybcasino.ag

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[DontTailMe]

This is vague and unable to be defined. You are missing the point entirely. It is not the player's responsibility to determine what is a realistic win percentage (again unable to be quantified). In a brick and mortar casino if a player did well on a machine, he would expect to be paid wouldn't he? Do you think the pit boss would walk over and say "you exploited a glitch" sorry you're not getting paid... unless he was tampering with the machine (unable to be done online). This argument is just flawed. sorry man, no disrespect. Again, if they want to stiff him, show him tangible evidence about the flaw. You don't get it both ways... you don't get to stiff him, then not give an explanation... one or the other... or better yet, lick your wounds, look at this as free advertising and pay the man.

No, I think you're missing the point entirely. There are certainly casino game exploits which I've heard of over the years in which the only way the player can possibly benefit from it is if they know what's going on. In other words, too complex to just happen upon thousands of times. If it were so easy for the exploit to be encountered, then OP wouldn't be the only one profiting immensely from it. Other players would have gotten so "lucky".

So it's not necessarily as simple as you're making it out to be here. The player is probably not just innocently sitting there pulling the electronic slot lever while a glitch rewards him with hundreds of thousands of dollars.