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  • Triumph
    SBR MVP
    • 09-18-12
    • 1235

    #1
    When will the sports books start paying the election bets?
    The fat lady has sung!
  • themike78
    SBR MVP
    • 07-01-13
    • 4873

    #2
    Originally posted by Triumph
    The fat lady has sung!
    Far from it. Sorry but the media doesn't choose the winner. First of all they are still counting votes and many recounts and court hearings to come. Nothing is official and won't be for another few months most likely.
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    • littlekona
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-19-15
      • 5242

      #3
      Most every book has already graded most bets. some states and other specail bets still not graded but the election winner Biden the next president is graded by almost every book/excahnge
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      • Craig22
        SBR Sharp
        • 01-14-16
        • 369

        #4
        Originally posted by littlekona
        Most every book has already graded most bets. some states and other specail bets still not graded but the election winner Biden the next president is graded by almost every book/excahnge
        Bookmaker hasn't paid at all and is claiming they are waiting until January 20th. This sounds pretty unacceptable to me.
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        • Gonzo
          SBR Rookie
          • 11-09-10
          • 14

          #5
          Originally posted by Craig22
          Bookmaker hasn't paid at all and is claiming they are waiting until January 20th. This sounds pretty unacceptable to me.
          Mine hasn’t paid either. I assumed they’re waiting until all legal challenges are completed, which shouldn’t be much longer. It would be pretty stupid if it’s until January 20th.
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          • Craig22
            SBR Sharp
            • 01-14-16
            • 369

            #6
            Originally posted by Gonzo
            Mine hasn’t paid either. I assumed they’re waiting until all legal challenges are completed, which shouldn’t be much longer. It would be pretty stupid if it’s until January 20th.
            The guy on chat told me Jan 20th for the prop bets on electoral vote margin to settle. I guess they paid out some bets on a state by state basis so far.
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            • acquavallo
              SBR Sharp
              • 03-16-18
              • 350

              #7
              Without getting off-topic \ partisan \ triggering- we're only here to make money-

              There should be no cause for complaint here, we all knew this could be subject to fraud, be held up for months... only worthwhile for futures adherents.

              The fact that some books have chosen to pay out on Biden...when votes are still being counted, zero states have officially certified voting, DoJ & FBI investigating numerous referrals, over a dozen lawsuits pending...ehh.
              (Trump has a -200 chance of ultimately prevailing IMHO...)
              Still works for books when they end up paying both sides due to all the extra action- 2-1\2 months' worth- and positive publicity.

              To those who disagree or are unaware- more than half the country is unknowing of these possibilities- because even worse than fake news is missing news: ignored \ cancelled \ deleted news, shares & searches by the tag team of msm & big tech... Even Fox has joined them.
              The only inkling of true US happenings- by mainstream outlets- is coming out of Australia, but for specific details and latest updates one has to know from memory specific US websites.
              But to get their content from general platforms and searches (who wants to go manually from site to site- even the specialized aggregators), one needs to be both signed in to the platform and subscribed to each website's channel. Otherwise they don't come up in generic searches, shares and suggestions. (I've even signed up for the stupid Google Opinions Rewards- because a few of their polls are about rating the relevancy of their content suggestions (re Search, News & YouTube) for you the specific user).

              Hedgers, Scalpers & Arbers may wish to be on the lookout for any ++ Props on Trump being Inaugurated.

              Good luck everyone.
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              • DontTailMe
                SBR MVP
                • 03-24-19
                • 2897

                #8
                Originally posted by Craig22
                Bookmaker hasn't paid at all and is claiming they are waiting until January 20th. This sounds pretty unacceptable to me.
                They've clarified this on Twitter. Yes, the rules say inauguration, and yes that's what their CS is saying when you ask. But they are trying to grade election wagers as quickly as possible. Many have been paid out already. I don't blame any book for holding off a little be on the electoral college win. There's almost no chance that it gets reversed, but there are technically recounts in play.

                Anyone who placed election wagers should have done so expecting that things might go on for a while. Trump has been saying for over a month now that he would accept the result if he lost.
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                • Barrakuda
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 02-28-18
                  • 786

                  #9
                  Nothing is going to be held up for "months." Trump has struck out in every single one of his legal actions. We're looking at 1-2 weeks here in all likelihood. Worst case is that there are enough recounts to make us wait until early Dec.
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                  • pimike
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 03-23-08
                    • 37139

                    #10
                    Biden hasn’t won yet.
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                    • jacksonstreet
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 10-19-20
                      • 182

                      #11
                      Originally posted by themike78
                      Far from it. Sorry but the media doesn't choose the winner. First of all they are still counting votes and many recounts and court hearings to come. Nothing is official and won't be for another few months most likely.
                      My God just get it through your thick penetrating skulls.......IT'S OVER. The fat, indecent piece of shit is GONE. It's not 'far from over'. Everyone knows it's over except chubbs and his supporters. Just an exercise in futility, though. Think of all the money that will be spent on these lawsuits --- could go to charity instead. Funny how the elections are rigged, but only in those states where red is losing.
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                      • jacksonstreet
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 10-19-20
                        • 182

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pimike
                        Biden hasn’t won yet.
                        Moron.
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                        • pimike
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                          • 03-23-08
                          • 37139

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jacksonstreet
                          Moron.
                          Learn how things work.

                          News does not declare the winner.

                          You’re the moron.
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                          • pimike
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 03-23-08
                            • 37139

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jacksonstreet
                            Moron.
                            Clown
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                            • ParlayTeaser
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 09-12-20
                              • 155

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jacksonstreet
                              My God just get it through your thick penetrating skulls.......IT'S OVER. The fat, indecent piece of shit is GONE. It's not 'far from over'. Everyone knows it's over except chubbs and his supporters. Just an exercise in futility, though. Think of all the money that will be spent on these lawsuits --- could go to charity instead. Funny how the elections are rigged, but only in those states where red is losing.
                              LOL
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                              • HeeeHAWWWW
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 06-13-08
                                • 5487

                                #16
                                Electoral college is Dec 14, that's the end of the road.

                                Now given the various law suits have all been thrown out for lack of evidence, the only plausible route I can see is that Trump will try stop some state's EC voters from contributing, with the intent of pulling Biden below 270. If that happens, Congress votes by delegation and Trump wins.

                                Problem with this: in Pennsylvania the governor appoints the electors, and he's a Democrat. There are perhaps various legal shenanigans to get around that, but it's banana republic stuff and I'm dubious enough local GOP will follow through - the US would be a complete laughing stock internationally. PA alone wouldn't be enough either.


                                Most of this is probably just theatre for the Georgia Senate run-offs.
                                Last edited by HeeeHAWWWW; 11-10-20, 08:06 AM.
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                                • od120731
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 11-28-18
                                  • 255

                                  #17
                                  I believe it should be like middle to end of December-ish?
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                                  • Judge Crater
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-05-20
                                    • 2024

                                    #18
                                    Betfair

                                    Biden -1111
                                    Trump +1050 ( was as low as +900 last night)


                                    I suspect it is free money for those in the know
                                    Last edited by Judge Crater; 11-10-20, 12:12 PM.
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                                    • pokernight1991
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 04-11-07
                                      • 124

                                      #19
                                      There is no fraud and there is no path forward for the grifter to win. He will continue to file frivolous lawsuits so he can fund raise off of them. As the Wall St Journal reported half of the money raised can go to pay off the RNC and the campaign debt. Remember the con man "billionaire" never paid one cent to his campaign. A grifter has to grift and with rubes such as his base he won't stop until he has sucked them dry like the leech that he is.
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                                      • Craig22
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 01-14-16
                                        • 369

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DontTailMe
                                        They've clarified this on Twitter. Yes, the rules say inauguration, and yes that's what their CS is saying when you ask. But they are trying to grade election wagers as quickly as possible. Many have been paid out already. I don't blame any book for holding off a little be on the electoral college win. There's almost no chance that it gets reversed, but there are technically recounts in play.
                                        Anyone who placed election wagers should have done so expecting that things might go on for a while. Trump has been saying for over a month now that he would accept the result if he lost.
                                        No chance? All the Supreme Court judges Trump elected Defended bush during 2000. Is this a coincidence- I think not? Will the Supreme Court confirm Trump If they find election fraud? Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised, as I don't think Biden won the primary fair and square.
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                                        • littlekona
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-19-15
                                          • 5242

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Craig22
                                          No chance? All the Supreme Court judges Trump elected Defended bush during 2000. Is this a coincidence- I think not? Will the Supreme Court confirm Trump If they find election fraud? Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised, as I don't think Biden won the primary fair and square.
                                          Trump is brillaint. He knows exaclty how to expolit the hard working people who follow him just like any cult leader. He is veryy smart doing this so knowing full well as does the party that its going nowhere and hes out becase it is a fund raising BONANZA taking money from all his hard working loyal follower to help pay for his huge campaign debt and also help fund Georgia Run Off. It's all a false flag shinny object to deflect from reality that he and the GOP need money
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                                          • Craig22
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 01-14-16
                                            • 369

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by littlekona
                                            Trump is brillaint. He knows exaclty how to expolit the hard working people who follow him just like any cult leader. He is veryy smart doing this so knowing full well as does the party that its going nowhere and hes out becase it is a fund raising BONANZA taking money from all his hard working loyal follower to help pay for his huge campaign debt and also help fund Georgia Run Off. It's all a false flag shinny object to deflect from reality that he and the GOP need money
                                            Trump can easily fund the 50 million himself and should if he wants it so bad.
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                                            • Craig22
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 01-14-16
                                              • 369

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW
                                              Electoral college is Dec 14, that's the end of the road.

                                              Now given the various law suits have all been thrown out for lack of evidence, the only plausible route I can see is that Trump will try stop some state's EC voters from contributing, with the intent of pulling Biden below 270. If that happens, Congress votes by delegation and Trump wins.

                                              Problem with this: in Pennsylvania the governor appoints the electors, and he's a Democrat. There are perhaps various legal shenanigans to get around that, but it's banana republic stuff and I'm dubious enough local GOP will follow through - the US would be a complete laughing stock internationally. PA alone wouldn't be enough either.


                                              Most of this is probably just theatre for the Georgia Senate run-offs.
                                              What if the electoral college votes against the popular vote- that would be wild.
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                                              • themike78
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-01-13
                                                • 4873

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jacksonstreet
                                                My God just get it through your thick penetrating skulls.......IT'S OVER. The fat, indecent piece of shit is GONE. It's not 'far from over'. Everyone knows it's over except chubbs and his supporters. Just an exercise in futility, though. Think of all the money that will be spent on these lawsuits --- could go to charity instead. Funny how the elections are rigged, but only in those states where red is losing.
                                                Nice try. But it's far from over and most likely Trump prevails like he always does. And all that money that big tech and fake news media donated to losing dems campaigns should have went to charity. Trump is using his money wisely to prove to the American people the Dems are a fraud and tried to rig the election.
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                                                • themike78
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-01-13
                                                  • 4873

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pokernight1991
                                                  There is no fraud and there is no path forward for the grifter to win. He will continue to file frivolous lawsuits so he can fund raise off of them. As the Wall St Journal reported half of the money raised can go to pay off the RNC and the campaign debt. Remember the con man "billionaire" never paid one cent to his campaign. A grifter has to grift and with rubes such as his base he won't stop until he has sucked them dry like the leech that he is.
                                                  Fake news as usual from the libtards. I wouldn't expect nothing else.
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                                                  • scandler37
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 11-08-19
                                                    • 5

                                                    #26
                                                    Yes, although Bookmaker has not paid winning wagers, they have graded several of my wagers as losses prematurely (and incorrectly based upon projected winner). I have contacted them, and this was the response (which does not make any sense considering I contacted them about wagers which have already been graded). "Thank you for contacting us!I know you're eager to have this graded and we absolutely want to settle the US election bets as soon as possible. As you may know, even though the outcome has been declared official, there is uncertainty over whether there will be possible legal challenges moving forward. We apologize for the wait but we just need to be 100% certain that the outcome has been accepted by both sides before we can settle these wagers.If we can be of any further assistance, please do no hesitate to contact us via chat or by replying to this email. We'll do our best to resolve your inquiry as quickly and accurately as possible.Regards,Support Team-"
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                                                    • TT22
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 09-02-09
                                                      • 409

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by scandler37
                                                      Yes, although Bookmaker has not paid winning wagers, they have graded several of my wagers as losses prematurely (and incorrectly based upon projected winner). I have contacted them, and this was the response (which does not make any sense considering I contacted them about wagers which have already been graded). "Thank you for contacting us!I know you're eager to have this graded and we absolutely want to settle the US election bets as soon as possible. As you may know, even though the outcome has been declared official, there is uncertainty over whether there will be possible legal challenges moving forward. We apologize for the wait but we just need to be 100% certain that the outcome has been accepted by both sides before we can settle these wagers.If we can be of any further assistance, please do no hesitate to contact us via chat or by replying to this email. We'll do our best to resolve your inquiry as quickly and accurately as possible.Regards,Support Team-"
                                                      What are the bets in question?

                                                      If there’s clear mistakes, you’ll get them fixed at Bookmaker for sure.
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                                                      • Optional
                                                        Administrator
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 60849

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by scandler37
                                                        Yes, although Bookmaker has not paid winning wagers, they have graded several of my wagers as losses prematurely (and incorrectly based upon projected winner). I have contacted them, and this was the response (which does not make any sense considering I contacted them about wagers which have already been graded). "Thank you for contacting us!I know you're eager to have this graded and we absolutely want to settle the US election bets as soon as possible. As you may know, even though the outcome has been declared official, there is uncertainty over whether there will be possible legal challenges moving forward. We apologize for the wait but we just need to be 100% certain that the outcome has been accepted by both sides before we can settle these wagers.If we can be of any further assistance, please do no hesitate to contact us via chat or by replying to this email. We'll do our best to resolve your inquiry as quickly and accurately as possible.Regards,Support Team-"
                                                        If they do not get all your bets graded correctly once they do decide to officially grade everything, SBR can help you get a mangers ear to review anything.

                                                        But I suspect they will re-grade them as winners at the time if needed.
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                                                        • HeeeHAWWWW
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-13-08
                                                          • 5487

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Craig22
                                                          What if the electoral college votes against the popular vote- that would be wild.
                                                          With a lot of states it's actually not legally possible - the elector is automatically replaced.

                                                          What is potentially possible in some states with different parties in their legislature and governor's houses: they send two different sets of electors. You then have Congress having to figure out wtf to do, and the head of the Senate plays quite a big role in that case ..... which is the current Vice-President.
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                                                          • scandler37
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 11-08-19
                                                            • 5

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Gonzo
                                                            Mine hasn’t paid either. I assumed they’re waiting until all legal challenges are completed, which shouldn’t be much longer. It would be pretty stupid if it’s until January 20th.
                                                            Actually it's even worse than that. Bookmaker is marking many wagers as losses "based on percentage average", and not paying winning wagers.
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                                                            • NYproGambler
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 12-11-18
                                                              • 178

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by pimike
                                                              Biden hasn’t won yet.
                                                              I think you are moron. Lmfao
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                                                              • ParlayTeaser
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 09-12-20
                                                                • 155

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by scandler37
                                                                Actually it's even worse than that. Bookmaker is marking many wagers as losses "based on percentage average", and not paying winning wagers.
                                                                That is shady. Do you know this for sure? I suspected some books would take this route. After 5 Dimes screwed future bettors over, it seems like they're no honor amongst men anymore offshore.
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                                                                • DontTailMe
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-24-19
                                                                  • 2897

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by scandler37
                                                                  Actually it's even worse than that. Bookmaker is marking many wagers as losses "based on percentage average", and not paying winning wagers.
                                                                  Can you explain what you mean by this, maybe give an example?
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                                                                  • Judge Crater
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 10-05-20
                                                                    • 2024

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I don't think the books want to hold the $$. They probably need Biden anyway.
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