5dimes agrees to settlement with US....

**Roger T. Bannon** · 09-30-20, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

If and when 5D enters the US market, it will be in name only. There will be no reduced juice or endless parlay opportunities. So why would anyone with a clue bet with them---especially after the way they left the US market?

Because they will most likely be offering higher limits, earlier lines and more betting opportunities. And if they offer those things, you will mostly likely be betting there, too.

There will definitely be no reduced juice but that is not the primary reason people bet with 5Dimes now.

**Aldoneri** · 09-30-20, 06:05 PM

Is reduced juice "sustainable" for a USA book?

**HedgeHog** · 09-30-20, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by Aldoneri

Is reduced juice "sustainable" for a USA book?

No. A 5 Dimes Book stateside will likely offer -115 lines on sides and totals. Pass!

**mfins** · 09-30-20, 06:51 PM

Very smart for Tony's wife to get ahead of this thing and settle with the Feds. Also, I wonder if part of the deal with the feds was they had to pay out all US Bettors. I don't think the feds could enforce that but may have strongly encouraged it.

**Roger T. Bannon** · 09-30-20, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

No. A 5 Dimes Book stateside will likely offer -115 lines on sides and totals. Pass!

No US book is offering -115 lines. This has been a fairy tale from the start.

**Barrakuda** · 09-30-20, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by Shifty

No way they'll get approved by a state regulator anytime soon. Pinnacle has a better chance.

Exactly. The federal govt. has nothing to do with whether they enter the US.

**Barrakuda** · 09-30-20, 06:56 PM

"We put a stop to it." LOL, 22 years after the fact...

"The investigation was a complete success from our perspective," Michael Lowe, assistant U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, told ESPN. "There was gambling going on, but we discovered it, we put a stop to it."

**Aldoneri** · 09-30-20, 07:06 PM

Another Varela attorneys, Stephen A. Miller of Cozen O’Connor, warned that if US state regulators “refuse to license an innocent owner like Laura, then no other offshore sportsbook will even bother to try to clean up its act and follow her lead.”

Interesting ...

**TheGuesser** · 09-30-20, 07:08 PM

**BigdaddyQH** · 09-30-20, 07:25 PM

If ANYONE in here is still stupid enough to play with off shore books, that person is a small timer. Looking for handouts because that is all they can afford. I am willing to wager that I wager more on a team than the entire lot of you phonies do in one week. Vegas needs you clowns so they can take your money charging you for booze, as you lose your arse betting with a B-Girl. You guys know nothing. Absolutely NOTHING. YOu are a bunch of amateurs that every gambler I know would not waste his breath on.

**PD77** · 09-30-20, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

If ANYONE in here is still stupid enough to play with off shore books, that person is a small timer. Looking for handouts because that is all they can afford. I am willing to wager that I wager more on a team than the entire lot of you phonies do in one week. Vegas needs you clowns so they can take your money charging you for booze, as you lose your arse betting with a B-Girl. You guys know nothing. Absolutely NOTHING. YOu are a bunch of amateurs that every gambler I know would not waste his breath on.

Small daddy, if you’re so smart and EVERYONE else at SBR is so dumb, why do you frequent the site everyday other than to tell us how stupid we are? You’re a sad sack of shit. Go on over to the Mensa forum , or even better the NAMBLA forum. I’m sure you’ll fit in there because you don’t here.

**Wohlford** · 09-30-20, 07:57 PM

The 5dimes name is mud after their futures cancellation.

The idiot DOJ guys are proud of themselves for inducing 5dimes to defraud US customers with the promise of amnesty and ability to operate legally.

What a crock.

**DontTailMe** · 09-30-20, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by Wohlford

The 5dimes name is mud after their futures cancellation.

The idiot DOJ guys are proud of themselves for inducing 5dimes to defraud US customers with the promise of amnesty and ability to operate legally.

What a crock.

I will enjoy actively campaigning against them if/when they try to return to the US. I hope others will join me. My personal impact to them may be small, but I won't care.

**5918mike** · 10-01-20, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

If ANYONE in here is still stupid enough to play with off shore books, that person is a small timer. Looking for handouts because that is all they can afford. I am willing to wager that I wager more on a team than the entire lot of you phonies do in one week. Vegas needs you clowns so they can take your money charging you for booze, as you lose your arse betting with a B-Girl. You guys know nothing. Absolutely NOTHING. YOu are a bunch of amateurs that every gambler I know would not waste his breath on.

I'm small time so what other option do I have. I'm not going to live in that shit hole desert just to gamble recreationally.

**CanuckG** · 10-01-20, 01:03 AM

5dimes wont even be a blip on the radar IF (big if) they get a state regulator to give them a license. I’m sure they will grease someone in NJ. Good luck keeping up with DK/FD/Pointsbet on marketing and promo spend. Look how big 365 is worldwide and they are struggling in NJ.

**TheMoneyShot** · 10-01-20, 03:40 AM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

If and when 5D enters the US market, it will be in name only. There will be no reduced juice or endless parlay opportunities. So why would anyone with a clue bet with them---especially after the way they left the US market?

I agree with this 100%. I can't see 5D doing any reduced juice lines either.

**pologq** · 10-01-20, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by capitalist pig

This statement from the doj doesn’t sound very promising for letting them operate in the USA , you cannot commit all those federal crimes and all the sudden every thing is okay

Through our 5Dimes investigation, Homeland Security Investigations illuminated a massive global network of criminals whose profession was to launder proceeds for drug cartels, kleptocratic regimes, illegal mining operations, and fraudsters,” said Brian A. Michael, Special Agent in Charge, HSI Philadelphia. “Today’s announcement of the global settlement agreement and significant monetary seizures demonstrates HSI’s commitment with our partners to deny criminal organizations the financial proceeds of their illicit activities.”

maybe this is why 5 dimes really got shut down? involved more than just gambling apparently

**pologq** · 10-01-20, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by 5918mike

I'm small time so what other option do I have. I'm not going to live in that shit hole desert just to gamble recreationally.

same and i like to gamble for fun with a limit i set for myself

**pologq** · 10-01-20, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

I will enjoy actively campaigning against them if/when they try to return to the US. I hope others will join me. My personal impact to them may be small, but I won't care.

i am with you. fine not using them if/when gambling comes to NY unless they are my only option.

**DoucheBagWhoBets** · 10-01-20, 10:05 AM

Cancelling my futures actually helped me.

I just need my dough. So it's TBD.

**brr3321** · 10-01-20, 03:25 PM

Did the other thread get removed ? I just got email that my payout has been processed still waiting for it to hit my bitcoin wallet

**DontTailMe** · 10-01-20, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by brr3321

Did the other thread get removed ? I just got email that my payout has been processed still waiting for it to hit my bitcoin wallet

Thanks. Please keep the updates coming, people. It will be comforting to see a few emails + payouts fulfilled post-9/30.

Yeah, it's weird that that other thread is gone. Looks like it's still in Players Talk. Not sure why it's not still cross posted.

**Starion** · 10-01-20, 04:28 PM

I think the widow is planning to sell 5Dimes. Whoever the buyer is wanted the accounts purged first.

**zamzack** · 10-01-20, 04:53 PM

There are rumors about a possible sell to VietBet, same guys that run BetPhoenix.

**RedApples** · 10-01-20, 05:18 PM

oh nevermind i see the old threads now.

**DontTailMe** · 10-01-20, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by zamzack

There are rumors about a possible sell to VietBet, same guys that run BetPhoenix.

Huh? I thought VietBet and ChineseBookie were already part of the 5Dimes ownership group.

**ParlayTeaser** · 10-01-20, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by pologq

i like how it says they did not disclose any names of their bettors

Me too. The only silver lining in this episode.

**TheGuesser** · 10-01-20, 10:39 PM

I can't even get to the 5Dimes website anymore. Have they disabled the Website for Americans?

www.5dimes.eu -

Access Denied

Error code 16

This request was blocked by the security rules

2020-10-02 02:51:06 UTC

**stevenash** · 10-01-20, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by Fitz030808

I wouldn’t give them a cent for screwing customers in futures.

Let's see if they are going to make that right.

I wouldn't hold my breath though.

I was the a huge 5Dimes supporter in the past but I've moved on.

**Waterstpub87** · 10-01-20, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by TheGuesser

I can't even get to the 5Dimes website anymore. Have they disabled the Website for Americans?

www.5dimes.eu -

Access Denied

Error code 16

This request was blocked by the security rules

2020-10-02 02:51:06 UTC

Same. Its over. I hope they are in NJ in time for next baseball season.

**stevenash** · 10-01-20, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

If ANYONE in here is still stupid enough to play with off shore books, that person is a small timer. Looking for handouts because that is all they can afford. I am willing to wager that I wager more on a team than the entire lot of you phonies do in one week. Vegas needs you clowns so they can take your money charging you for booze, as you lose your arse betting with a B-Girl. You guys know nothing. Absolutely NOTHING. YOu are a bunch of amateurs that every gambler I know would not waste his breath on.

You’re a blowhard pal.

At anytime I can expose you for the fraud that you are?

Try me.

Ill wait for another one of your hilarious threatening pm’s in the meantime.

**jwilson462** · 10-01-20, 11:19 PM

Got the verification email today mid-afternoon, it went to spam, found it and replied after EOB.

This is off a second request dated 9/24, did phone verification 9/25. 2004***.

Will follow up if/when the BTC hits. But I thought the fact that 5D is processing today was a positive sign.

**brr3321** · 10-01-20, 11:44 PM

Yes I received my money today $10,181.

Requested the 20th ... so yes if you cashed by the 25th you will get paid

**RedApples** · 10-02-20, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by jwilson462

Got the verification email today mid-afternoon, it went to spam, found it and replied after EOB.

This is off a second request dated 9/24, did phone verification 9/25. 2004***.

Will follow up if/when the BTC hits. But I thought the fact that 5D is processing today was a positive sign.

mines 20044*. still crickets

**DontTailMe** · 10-02-20, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by stevenash

Let's see if they are going to make that right.

I wouldn't hold my breath though.

I was the a huge 5Dimes supporter in the past but I've moved on.

The ship has sailed on futures. They are in the final stage of closing out US business - payouts. No one is going to go back an look at refunded wagers ever again.