Cloudbet confiscated $15,000 due to providing verification documents from USA citizen

**RedApples** · 10-24-20, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by DontTailMe

How many times have we heard this before? I would love nothing more than for this thread to fall off the first page, but I'm not holding my breath.

It won't happen until you know when... something that is long long overdue. & no I don't mean OP getting his extortion money.

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 12:13 AM

Buddy are you seriously threatening me?

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 12:15 AM

please tell me what i have to do to make amends. I will do anything man. please tell me. i will answer all of your questions.

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 12:15 AM

I will forget all about the money and everything

**RedApples** · 10-24-20, 12:18 AM

LOL can't wait to see what he's angling at now. Sent me a PM and I responded. Gotta imagine he's gonna edit it or something.

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by RedApples

It won't happen until you know when... something that is long long overdue. & no I don't mean OP getting his extortion money.

Listen man, what can i please do to make this all better, I want to answer all your questions and resolve this, I don't need the money I just need to relieve all the stress and go away. Please.

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by RedApples

LOL can't wait to see what he's angling at now. Sent me a PM and I responded. Gotta imagine he's gonna edit it or something.

i didn't get a PM, you were on my ignore list, send again? i want to resolve this and answer your questions (honestly though).

**jacksonstreet** · 10-24-20, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon

I will forget all about the money and everything

no you won't, let's be honest. seriously - just take a break from the internet for a while. if you're down in mexico go enjoy the beach...if you're in central mexico, then go check out a burro. paint it like a zebra and charge people money to see it.

**RedApples** · 10-24-20, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon

Listen man, what can i please do to make this all better, I want to answer all your questions and resolve this, I don't need the money I just need to relieve all the stress and go away. Please.

Please stop PM'ing me. You're a dishonest liar. You just keep jumping site from site acting disingenuous to try to get the story cleared from the end of the discussion and act like a victim. You literally just asked me for a truce on the other site and when I offered it up, look at the response & discourse. Now you jump on here.

No one is believing any of your weird games.

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by jacksonstreet

no you won't, let's be honest. seriously - just take a break from the internet for a while. if you're down in mexico go enjoy the beach...if you're in central mexico, then go check out a burro. paint it like a zebra and charge people money to see it.

he's threatening violence on me dude. I need to just forget about it , i already did enough damage posting all about Cloudbet when I should have just eaten the loss. I want to resolve this and move on with my life. I truly cannot deal with this right now. Or ever again like you said (you spent a year dealing with it, that could become me easily)

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by RedApples

Please stop PM'ing me. You're a dishonest liar. You just keep jumping site from site acting disingenuous to try to get the story cleared from the end of the discussion and act like a victim.

Cloudbet $15,000 confiscated due to US Citizenship

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277995.msg55441434#msg55441434

Cloudbet $15,000 confiscated due to US Citizenship

No one is believing any of your weird games.

Dude, I'm trying to resolve this, you just threatened to silence me for good. I want to do what it takes to end the dispute. I don't want any of the heat or the beef. I thought I had a case, maybe I don't.

What do you want from me please.

**RedApples** · 10-24-20, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon

he's threatening violence on me dude. I need to just forget about it , i already did enough damage posting all about Cloudbet when I should have just eaten the loss. I want to resolve this and move on with my life. I truly cannot deal with this right now. Or ever again like you said (you spent a year dealing with it, that could become me easily)

Dude. WHAT? Prove it. WTF

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by RedApples

It won't happen until you know when... something that is long long overdue. & no I don't mean OP getting his extortion money.

Dude, you have me literally scared for my life. Can we please end this entire dispute so i can move on with my life. what do you want from me. I'm not joking. I'm begging you, please.

**jacksonstreet** · 10-24-20, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon

he's threatening violence on me dude. I need to just forget about it , i already did enough damage posting all about Cloudbet when I should have just eaten the loss. I want to resolve this and move on with my life. I truly cannot deal with this right now. Or ever again like you said (you spent a year dealing with it, that could become me easily)

He's not going to touch you. He will forget you exist as soon as you quit posting. It's simple.

**jacksonstreet** · 10-24-20, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon

Dude, you have me literally scared for my life. Can we please end this entire dispute so i can move on with my life. what do you want from me. I'm not joking. I'm begging you, please.

He wasn't threatening violence on you. He was saying you would be harming yourself. And it isn't worth it over $15k (or any amount of money for that matter).

**RedApples** · 10-24-20, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by jacksonstreet

He wasn't threatening violence on you. He was saying you would be harming yourself. And it isn't worth it over $15k (or any amount of money for that matter).

I think he's trying to use this quote now from another site:
"Sounds great, just stop posting on the topic. Let's not see you quote this post somewhere else to say that I'm Cloudbet trying to silence you. I'm going to take your post here as an honest desire to end things. I don't want to be forced to have to continue to defend myself and Cloudbet over what you've done. This is the only time I will accept an offer to compromise and end things."

Where he asked:
"OK man, so how do we please come to a peaceful resolution. I just want to move on with my life. It's a nightmare. I don't want to think about getting this $15,000 taken any more. I don't ever want to think about the words Cloud bet any more either. I don't even want to think about the word bet.

How can we just move on man."

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by jacksonstreet

He wasn't threatening violence on you. He was saying you would be harming yourself. And it isn't worth it over $15k (or any amount of money for that matter).

Truest statement of the millennium. No amount of money is worth your life.

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by RedApples

I think he's trying to use this quote now from another site:
"Sounds great, just stop posting on the topic. Let's not see you quote this post somewhere else to say that I'm Cloudbet trying to silence you. I'm going to take your post here as an honest desire to end things. I don't want to be forced to have to continue to defend myself and Cloudbet over what you've done. This is the only time I will accept an offer to compromise and end things."

Where he asked:
"OK man, so how do we please come to a peaceful resolution. I just want to move on with my life. It's a nightmare. I don't want to think about getting this $15,000 taken any more. I don't ever want to think about the words Cloud bet any more either. I don't even want to think about the word bet.

How can we just move on man."

RedApples, I am stopping posting on the subject. I'm please asking you: do not do anything to me, stop following me around please. Don't cause me physical harm as you stated the only way I'd be silent is if I was dead and got "what is coming to me".

I want to move on with my life and not have to deal with this any more. I have literally $4 in the bank and I'm going to pass out flyers for a craigslist job tomorrow. Listen to me- I need this to stop. I want to answer the questions you laid out here or wherever, I'm not cross-posting right now.

I don't want a violent end to this. I want to resolve this peacefully and stop posting on the subject and go away. I don't want this to happen. Please. i'm begging you to give me a chance to make amends. Please.

**RedApples** · 10-24-20, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon

Truest statement of the millennium. No amount of money is worth your life.

You've almost succeeding in getting an entire page off topic. Where did I threaten you with your life?

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 12:35 AM

Originally posted by RedApples

It won't happen until you know when... something that is long long overdue. & no I don't mean OP getting his extortion money.

I don't want to discuss anything other than making amends with you and apologizing to you. I don't know what you meant by this but I took this as a threat on my life, and I am literally terrified. I want to move on with my life and please live a happy life. please.

**jacksonstreet** · 10-24-20, 12:35 AM

Originally posted by RedApples

It won't happen until you know when... something that is long long overdue. & no I don't mean OP getting his extortion money.

He's referring to this...."It won't happen [thread lose interest] until you know when....something that is long long overdue'. You were referring to him ending it all on his own, but he's saying that you are threatening to do it to him.

For penetrate's sake - just everyone stop it. No one is hurting anyone. Cloudbet isn't going to magically appear and give money back. It's over.

**RedApples** · 10-24-20, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon

RedApples, I am stopping posting on the subject. I'm please asking you: do not do anything to me, stop following me around please. Don't cause me physical harm as you stated the only way I'd be silent is if I was dead.

I want to move on with my life and not have to deal with this any more. I have literally $4 in the bank and I'm going to pass out flyers for a craigslist job tomorrow. Listen to me- I need this to stop. I want to answer the questions you laid out here or wherever, I'm not cross-posting right now.

I don't want a violent end to this. I want to resolve this peacefully and stop posting on the subject and go away. I don't want this to happen. Please. i'm begging you to give me a chance to make amends. Please.

I unequivocally never ever said anything remotely close to this. You're great at showing print screens, so please share.

To be very clear again, I have not followed you around anywhere. I will post again so the narrative is not lost (rest of the narrative is on page 9):

Dude, just stop lying. You are guilty of literally everything that you are accusing others of. You've lied and attempted to extort and cheat Cloudbet. You were slandering ME on Bitcointalk, by quoting my posts here, stating that SBR posters were scumbag lowlifes and that I owned Cloudbet. I made an account to clear up the scam attempt you were waging versus Cloudbet, and to defend myself. That's why I made the account, and it's clear as day to read those things. You're a liar and a dishonest person so you continue to try to push this false narrative. I already addressed this in Bitcointalk a couple days ago, where you ran away from posting because of the mountain of evidence against you. Anyone can read that here:

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**RedApples** · 10-24-20, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by jacksonstreet

He's referring to this...."It won't happen [thread lose interest] until you know when....something that is long long overdue'. You were referring to him ending it all on his own, but he's saying that you are threatening to do it to him.

For penetrate's sake - just everyone stop it. No one is hurting anyone. Cloudbet isn't going to magically appear and give money back. It's over.

Um no I wasn't. I was referring to him being banned. Something multiple posters have already advocated for.

He's wasted so much our time and has went to literally every message board to smear me. You're new to the site. Start at the beginning.

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 12:42 AM

Whatever you were referring to, I am done. I've had enough.

I don't want any beef. I just want to go back to my broke normal life. I will survive. I am sorry for any harm caused. Truly. I will shut my big mouth.

If I can make further amends: PLEASE feel free to reach out. Please. Thank you.

**jacksonstreet** · 10-24-20, 12:44 AM

RedApples are you affiliated with Cloudbet?

**RedApples** · 10-24-20, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by jacksonstreet

RedApples are you affiliated with Cloudbet?

Are you affiliated with DoubleRedDragon?

**jacksonstreet** · 10-24-20, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by RedApples

Are you affiliated with DoubleRedDragon?

No, I'm only interested in your affiliation because I have questions about how CLoudbet handles livebetting. I lost a lot of money there a few years ago, but it was mainly due live bets getting rejected several minutes after I pressed submit...all whilst sitting in a "processing" phase while some needledick cloudbet nerd decided whether or not the bet would be advantageous for cloudbet (i.e. watching to see what happened in the game).

**RedApples** · 10-24-20, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by jacksonstreet

No, I'm only interested in your affiliation because I have questions about how CLoudbet handles livebetting. I lost a lot of money there a few years ago, but it was mainly due live bets getting rejected several minutes after I pressed submit...all whilst sitting in a "processing" phase while some needledick cloudbet nerd decided whether or not the bet would be advantageous for cloudbet (i.e. watching to see what happened in the game).

No sorry, I don't. I literally know nothing about Cloudbet besides what was brought to the table by DoubleRedDragon in this thread. Most of that wasn't true anyways though, so I definitely know nothing.

I know about BetOnline and other Sportsbooks.. none of the smaller ones though. Poker sites yes.

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 12:57 AM

Just let me know if i can do anyhting to help clear up some of the damage i've done in the thread. Other than that I am moving on. Again, contact me should there be anything i can do to make amends, to clear anything up, or to attempt to repair any damage I've caused Cloudbet, RedApples, the community, anything. I'm wanting to do the right thing to go on to live a productive and healthy life, which I'd appreciate you allowing me to do.

Other than that, again apologies for any harm caused by my breaking ToS and feeling entitled enough to create these argumentative threads.

**RedApples** · 10-24-20, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon

Just let me know if i can do anyhting to help clear up some of the damage i've done in the thread. Other than that I am moving on. Again, contact me should there be anything i can do to make amends, to clear anything up, or to attempt to repair any damage I've caused Cloudbet, RedApples, the community, anything. I'm wanting to do the right thing to go on to live a productive and healthy life, which I'd appreciate you allowing me to do.

Other than that, again apologies for any harm caused by my breaking ToS and feeling entitled enough to create these argumentative threads.

See. He just wanted to clear the narrative and start over with this nonsense. It's his MO. He's doing it everywhere.

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 01:03 AM

what are you talking about? I'm terrified of the threats of violence and the things that go on with organized crime. Listen man. I'm done. I have had enough. I will never ever ever speak on the subject again. What more do you want from me?

**DoubleRedDragon** · 10-24-20, 01:04 AM

I'm moving on with my life. Good luck and no harm intended. Let me know if i can do anything to help anyone out in any way, I will stay silent on the subject for fear of my safety.

**jacksonstreet** · 10-24-20, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon

Just let me know if i can do anyhting to help clear up some of the damage i've done in the thread. Other than that I am moving on. Again, contact me should there be anything i can do to make amends, to clear anything up, or to attempt to repair any damage I've caused Cloudbet, RedApples, the community, anything. I'm wanting to do the right thing to go on to live a productive and healthy life, which I'd appreciate you allowing me to do.

Other than that, again apologies for any harm caused by my breaking ToS and feeling entitled enough to create these argumentative threads.

Dude - no one talks about this away from the internet. It's not like you're going to be publicly shamed. No one - literally no one - is going to remember this thread unless you keep bringing it to the top. No one is going to hurt you. Just move on. Cloudbet is rich as hell but they won't be giving you anything, unfortunately.

**RedApples** · 10-24-20, 01:06 AM

Going to sleep. Praying the mods will delete post #316 and onward when I wake up.

**jacksonstreet** · 10-24-20, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon

I'm moving on with my life. Good luck and no harm intended. Let me know if i can do anything to help anyone out in any way, I will stay silent on the subject for fear of my safety.

Now you're just trying to manipulate them into paying you to "cancel out" the "threat" you think they made. No one other than you reads that as a threat on your life. Which I guess doesn't matter - if you truly feel scared then that's a terrible feeling. But we, objectively, are telling you that statement isn't a threat on your life.