BOL rollover only gives 50% lower amount of risk or win for baseball and hockey

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  • reallyhardtowin
    SBR Sharp
    • 02-10-20
    • 432

    #1
    BOL rollover only gives 50% lower amount of risk or win for baseball and hockey
    I always thought it was bullshot that they took the lower amount of what you risk or win but now they only give you 50% for baseball and hockey wagers?

    If you bet 200 to win 100 on Vegas last night they would only compute $50 towards the rollover.

    I know others don't take this and I typically don't use it until I finish the rollover but I noticed the amount computed this morning was less than a $200 wager I had on the Rockies last night. They were a dog at +102 but only get $100 towards the rollover.

    I didn't think this was the case with baseball. The rule says they do this due to the reduced juice. WTF?
  • ace7550
    SBR MVP
    • 05-08-15
    • 3729

    #2
    Originally posted by reallyhardtowin
    I always thought it was bullshot that they took the lower amount of what you risk or win but now they only give you 50% for baseball and hockey wagers?

    If you bet 200 to win 100 on Vegas last night they would only compute $50 towards the rollover.

    I know others don't take this and I typically don't use it until I finish the rollover but I noticed the amount computed this morning was less than a $200 wager I had on the Rockies last night. They were a dog at +102 but only get $100 towards the rollover.

    I didn't think this was the case with baseball. The rule says they do this due to the reduced juice. WTF?
    Yep it sucks. But it's stated clearly in their rules.
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    • icon
      SBR MVP
      • 01-09-18
      • 3441

      #3
      Originally posted by reallyhardtowin
      I always thought it was bullshot that they took the lower amount of what you risk or win but now they only give you 50% for baseball and hockey wagers?

      If you bet 200 to win 100 on Vegas last night they would only compute $50 towards the rollover.

      I know others don't take this and I typically don't use it until I finish the rollover but I noticed the amount computed this morning was less than a $200 wager I had on the Rockies last night. They were a dog at +102 but only get $100 towards the rollover.

      I didn't think this was the case with baseball. The rule says they do this due to the reduced juice. WTF?
      so basically the rollover is actually double what they advertise.
      10X roll is really 20X etc. players need to know this before accepting a bonus.
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      • reallyhardtowin
        SBR Sharp
        • 02-10-20
        • 432

        #4
        I agree that it is in the rules. I don't think it has always been in the rules. It appears they made some changes in early August. The other point made previously is that the 10 lines in MLB have been pushed down further than in the past. It's like adding a second zero in roulette - it just makes it harder and harder to win.

        Originally posted by ace7550
        Yep it sucks. But it's stated clearly in their rules.
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        • pimike
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 03-23-08
          • 37139

          #5
          Betus has always done this too.

          I won’t take a bonus under these rules
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          • Optional
            Administrator
            • 06-10-10
            • 61516

            #6
            Originally posted by icon
            so basically the rollover is actually double what they advertise.
            10X roll is really 20X etc. players need to know this before accepting a bonus.
            It's only MLB bets affected, not everything.
            .
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            • pimike
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 03-23-08
              • 37139

              #7
              Originally posted by Optional
              It's only MLB bets affected, not everything.
              Correct. So IF you ONLY bet baseball it would be 20x however betting other sports not so.
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              • BAUS
                SBR MVP
                • 08-10-05
                • 2191

                #8
                Originally posted by Optional
                It's only MLB bets affected, not everything.
                Hockey also.

                BAUS
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                • pologq
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-07-12
                  • 19899

                  #9
                  it was not always like that. now that it is i find it a major turn off from depositing as i play a lot of baseball and hockey.
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                  • ace7550
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-08-15
                    • 3729

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pologq
                    it was not always like that. now that it is i find it a major turn off from depositing as i play a lot of baseball and hockey.
                    90% of my betting is on MLB. It definitely sucks. When did they change it?
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                    • DontTailMe
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-24-19
                      • 2897

                      #11
                      Originally posted by reallyhardtowin
                      I agree that it is in the rules. I don't think it has always been in the rules. It appears they made some changes in early August. The other point made previously is that the 10 lines in MLB have been pushed down further than in the past. It's like adding a second zero in roulette - it just makes it harder and harder to win.
                      Correct. It changed sometime around a year ago maybe? Anyways, there was a thread here about it when the change was made.
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                      • DISTROYA
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-26-12
                        • 2911

                        #12
                        BOL now crediting only 50% of MLB amounts for rollovers

                        Pretty shitty move for such a huge book, dont you agree?
                        Take a team for -130, say 1300 to win 1000, they only credit 500.
                        BOOOOOOOO
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                        • HedgeHog
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-11-07
                          • 10128

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DISTROYA
                          Pretty shitty move for such a huge book, dont you agree?
                          Take a team for -130, say 1300 to win 1000, they only credit 500.
                          BOOOOOOOO
                          It's been this way for awhile. They do the same on NHL bets. I agree it's shitty.
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                          • DISTROYA
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-26-12
                            • 2911

                            #14
                            Shit I had no idea. How lame is this really. I only noticed when I was less than 2k from rollover completion, bet little over 2k on a game saturday, to see still have 1k to go.
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                            • BAUS
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 2191

                              #15
                              And their baseball juice is slightly higher than 2019.

                              BAUS
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                              • DISTROYA
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-26-12
                                • 2911

                                #16
                                Needless to say their bonuses are not worth it at all especially now. Imho
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                                • ace7550
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-08-15
                                  • 3729

                                  #17
                                  You can also only use FP up to +125 on MLB too. Used to be you could use it on any ML MLB bet. Also you can only bet up to $250 per FP bet on MLB.
                                  1. Baseball and Hockey Free Plays can only be used on Moneylines and Totals to max odds of +125.
                                  2. Baseball and Hockey Free Plays are restricted to a maximum wager of $250 per event.

                                  I still like BOL/SBAG but these new rules definitely suck for the player.
                                  On another note, there is no limit on FP betting in Golf matchups and there are some huge dogs for this week's tourney. If you need to flip some FP on BOL/SBAG you will get a ton of value in Golf.
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                                  • Roger T. Bannon
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-28-18
                                    • 5139

                                    #18
                                    I would see this as the closing of a loophole. That was a pretty great deal. Out of curiosity does it apply to baseball totals? That would be brutal.
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                                    • frankthetank
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 08-29-09
                                      • 652

                                      #19
                                      NHL and MLB. This book is slowly tweaking its way into scam territory.
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                                      • DontTailMe
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-24-19
                                        • 2897

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by frankthetank
                                        NHL and MLB. This book is slowly tweaking its way into scam territory.
                                        LOL. No.
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                                        • BAUS
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 2191

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by frankthetank
                                          NHL and MLB. This book is slowly tweaking its way into scam territory.
                                          No, just making it a little less competitive with other shops.

                                          BAUS
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                                          • ace7550
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-08-15
                                            • 3729

                                            #22
                                            Very very far from a scam.
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                                            • frankthetank
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 08-29-09
                                              • 652

                                              #23
                                              Funny, they are considered a "rogue outfit" on affiliate watchdog sites. They back-end people for a double rollover and they free roll the guy who started this thread. But they are not tweaking their way into scam territory? Got it.
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                                              • ace7550
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-08-15
                                                • 3729

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by frankthetank
                                                Funny, they are considered a "rogue outfit" on affiliate watchdog sites. They back-end people for a double rollover and they free roll the guy who started this thread. But they are not tweaking their way into scam territory? Got it.
                                                There are a lot of books that do a lot worse stuff. For whatever reason offshore sportsbooks aren't held to the same standards as we are used to with just about everything else. I understand your frustration. I hate the new rules too. I just think "scam" is too strong a word to use just yet.
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                                                • frankthetank
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 08-29-09
                                                  • 652

                                                  #25
                                                  That's why I said "slowly tweaking into scam territory" as opposed to "is an outright scam" But you go ahead and read my comment any way you want to.
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                                                  • DontTailMe
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-24-19
                                                    • 2897

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by frankthetank
                                                    Funny, they are considered a "rogue outfit" on affiliate watchdog sites. They back-end people for a double rollover and they free roll the guy who started this thread. But they are not tweaking their way into scam territory? Got it.
                                                    Where does OP describe BOL free rolling him?

                                                    This rollover change is in their rules. It might not be customer friendly, but it's light-years away from "scam" territory. BOL family bonuses aren't very valuable, and I very rarely accept them. But even if you completely remove deposit bonuses from the equation, BOL is easily one of the top sportsbooks in the US right now.
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                                                    • frankthetank
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 08-29-09
                                                      • 652

                                                      #27
                                                      different BO post. Thought it was this one. Anyhow, There is a free roll post out there somewhere in this forum recently. They are engaging in slightly more and more shady activity over time. I have been with them 15 years so I can see the changes. You can think what you want but they are headed in the wrong direction. Probably as states legalize wagering more and more they are squeezing what they can while they can.
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                                                      • 5918mike
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-16-14
                                                        • 1885

                                                        #28
                                                        Freeplay rules are so sketchy and slanted towards the book. I just went through HRW's rules in a chat session. When I question certain rules or inquire about others I know aren't listed they answer with additional rules that aren't stated and others that aren't enforced. Then there is always the, "We reserve the right to change these rules without notice"
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                                                        • ace7550
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-08-15
                                                          • 3729

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by 5918mike
                                                          Freeplay rules are so sketchy and slanted towards the book. I just went through HRW's rules in a chat session. When I question certain rules or inquire about others I know aren't listed they answer with additional rules that aren't stated and others that aren't enforced. Then there is always the, "We reserve the right to change these rules without notice"
                                                          One of the reasons you should only play with trusted books.
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                                                          • DISTROYA
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-26-12
                                                            • 2911

                                                            #30
                                                            Is there one single book that has improved in the past few years I can't name 1 that has not dramatically declined just about across-the-board in every category important to the player
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