BookMaker Is Changing Quickly

Eddy Munny · 08-16-20, 12:17 AM

If the game finishes today, what's the big deal? It's not like it was postponed til September. Suck it up.

Rowlo · 08-16-20, 12:35 AM

Game resumes tomorrow Sir, and that is not the way it works. All suspended games are cancelled/pushed. Are you aware of the rules or are you just talking. Game resumes tomorrow by the way. Perhaps your ok when rules change to benefit the house.

Barrakuda · 08-16-20, 01:22 AM

Hmm.

Just a moment...

https://get.bookmaker.help/hc/en-us/articles/360031907632-Suspended-postponed-baseball-games-MLB-and-Dominican-Republic

It should be cancelled bc it wasn't completed by 5am...not that any suspended game has ever been completed by 5am the same night, lol.

Rowlo · 08-16-20, 01:30 AM

Agreed. Those are the rules.

@Eddy Munny: Perhaps you should know what the rules are before you comment. This way, all can understand wrong from right and not just “suck it up” as being what we should all do when bets are incorrectly graded in favor of the house. Thank you for your understanding.

jedihyoju · 08-16-20, 05:41 AM

Hope the bats come alive and you can win.

1run in 4innings is sad but crazy things happen after suspended game.

under goes over and loser becomes winner

Optional · 08-16-20, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by Rowlo

I am more than concerned with Bookmaker as of late as many of us have all been witnessing. It seems as though suspended games will now be graded once completed after the makeup date. I will be moving to a new book as they do not even accept phone calls anymore. I think onshore betting may be the new choice as their are actually legitimate regulations to be adhered to. Never seen this at any book before on suspended games. It is always a cancel/push. This is the last bet in my multi team parlay for several thousand. Very very disappointed here.

* Game postponed, will be finished 8/16 * - TOTAL o10½-112 (Tampa Bay Rays vrs Toronto Blue Jays) - ( Action / Action )

The bet will have been cancelled AFTER 5AM passed.

How else would you expect gradings to be handled when the bets remains live until then?

soobv · 08-16-20, 06:25 AM

It's past 5am....update?

stake1 · 08-16-20, 06:53 AM

They have been upfront about their rules for this “2020 baseball season”. If you don’t like their rules? Play someplace else

RobertAnthonyT7 · 08-16-20, 08:03 AM

The rule is that the game needs to be completed 5 AM. It wasn’t. Account still not credited. I was told they are still awaiting a decision. I don’t understand how this is an issue at all. I can’t believe my account hasn’t been credited yet.

RobertAnthonyT7 · 08-16-20, 08:05 AM

Huh ?!?

That’s not the rule. Just like it wasn’t the rule when I had the Yanks opening night and a KBO game that I didn’t get credit for when it rained in the last inning even though I was up 2 runs. The rules can’t always go against the players.

Originally posted by Eddy Munny

If the game finishes today, what's the big deal? It's not like it was postponed til September. Suck it up.

RobertAnthonyT7 · 08-16-20, 08:07 AM

You don’t even know what the rule is. The rule is the game is no action. They even have examples on their site. If it’s 5-3 and not completed etc etc.

Originally posted by stake1

They have been upfront about their rules for this “2020 baseball season”. If you don’t like their rules? Play someplace else

RobertAnthonyT7 · 08-16-20, 08:17 AM

So Customer Service from BM told me that bc the game started the game may be action. They had examples up of games being postponed and being no action after they began. Now I can’t find the examples.

RobertAnthonyT7 · 08-16-20, 08:20 AM

The game looks to be action

RobertAnthonyT7 · 08-16-20, 08:25 AM

The nightmare is over. Game is no action. I wasn’t paranoid. BS was brewing. Right thing was done. Moving on.

Optional · 08-16-20, 08:27 AM

Geez, calm down dude.

It still says in about 5 places in their rules that the game must be completed by 5am local time.

There is no rule change in the last few hours.

Baseball official game times

Beginning in 2020, all full game bets are official after 8½ innings if the home team is ahead, or after 9 full innings if the visiting team is ahead. This includes moneyline, total runs (over/under) and Run Line bets.
Prior to 2020, moneyline bets would have action after 5 full innings of play (4½ if the home team was winning).
NOTE: In the event that games in a doubleheader are scheduled for 7 innings only (such as the MLB 2020 season) the game must go 7 innings (6½ if the home team is winning) for bets to have action.
Games must be completed, with a winner declared as follows, based on the league:

MLB and Dominican Republic: By 5 AM (in the time zone where the game is played)
NCAA, International Leagues & Softball: Within 36 hours of the scheduled start time, regardless of venue.

Any market whose outcome has already been determined will have action, even if the game is suspended after that point.
*For complete official rules about suspended games, please see these articles:

Optional · 08-16-20, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by RobertAnthonyT7

The nightmare is over. Game is no action. I wasn’t paranoid. BS was brewing. Right thing was done. Moving on.

Good to hear they graded it exactly as expected

And you weren't paranoid?! You should not be betting at all if that is an example of how it affects you.

Dumb dumb dumb thread from the start.

And posted almost 4 hours before the official time had even come to boot.

RobertAnthonyT7 · 08-16-20, 08:48 AM

Well maybe Customer Service shouldn’t say things like - well, because the game started already started, this is different. Also my bet ticket changed to - game starts at 12 PM.

I’ve also made millions is bets. Believe it or not. I may be losing like everyone else but I’m still in the game. That’s saying something.

QUOTE=Optional;29635919]Good to hear they graded it exactly as expected

And you weren't paranoid?! You should not be betting at all if that is an example of how it affects you.

Dumb dumb dumb thread from the start.

And posted almost 4 hours before the official time had even come to boot.

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RobertAnthonyT7 · 08-16-20, 08:56 AM

Off the topic. I’ve been gambling long enough to know the influence and power SBR has as well. Since the ******* days.

LT Profits · 08-16-20, 08:58 AM

Bookmaker must have house rule on this. Vegas Standard is all bets are cancelled with suspensions not recognized (except for post-season).

LT Profits · 08-16-20, 09:00 AM

Vegas Standard is game suspended before 5 innings is void, game suspended after 5 innings reverts to score after last full inning unless home team just took lead in current inning.

RobertAnthonyT7 · 08-16-20, 09:07 AM

They do LT. It’s just got a little weird when bet tickets were changing to game starts at 12:00, rule “examples” were disappearing, and CS was saying things like - well it’s different bc the game started. They corrected it. It’s all good.

QUOTE=LT Profits;29635966]Bookmaker must have house rule on this. Vegas Standard is all bets are cancelled with suspensions not recognized (except for post-season).[/QUOTE]

Rowlo · 08-16-20, 10:11 AM

Game was graded correctly as cancelled, but make no mistake that it was due to the powers of this forum. Perhaps Optional, I was not clear. I have never once waited per the rules for game to be ruled only after 5am. That may have spoiled me from the rules. My quarrel however stems from the BM comments made about being graded and showing postponed. Promised to be graded ASAP as usual to then be told all was closed and when I asked if the game needed to be completed 8/16 I was told yes. It is best to be clear when it comes to grading. Due to the many instances we have seen BM put some through as of late, there is reason in my eyes to make sure what I know as the best book remain that way. They are not taking calls, and there are new rules and likely new management that we should all be made aware of. Apologies if I was not clear and you feel the thread was dumb.

stake1 · 08-16-20, 10:15 AM

Here is good advice. When betting heavy chalk? Use bookmaker. You are guaranteed 9 innings or a refund. Any other baseball bets? Do not use them

LT Profits · 08-16-20, 10:29 AM

OK I see where the 5 AM comes in and I understand why Bookmaker waits until 5 AM to grade, but the rule they are applying actually applies to games that are DELAYED and not PPD/Suspended.

Postponed games must be completed, with a winner declared, within these time frames:

MLB and Dominican Republic: By 5 AM (in the time zone where the game is played)

Once a game is PPD or Suspended, it will obviously not be completed by 5 AM. Regardless of the semantics though, if 9/8.5 innings are not completed by 5 AM, all bets are void.

RobertAnthonyT7 · 08-16-20, 11:33 AM

I agree 1000%

Originally posted by Rowlo

Game was graded correctly as cancelled, but make no mistake that it was due to the powers of this forum. Perhaps Optional, I was not clear. I have never once waited per the rules for game to be ruled only after 5am. That may have spoiled me from the rules. My quarrel however stems from the BM comments made about being graded and showing postponed. Promised to be graded ASAP as usual to then be told all was closed and when I asked if the game needed to be completed 8/16 I was told yes. It is best to be clear when it comes to grading. Due to the many instances we have seen BM put some through as of late, there is reason in my eyes to make sure what I know as the best book remain that way. They are not taking calls, and there are new rules and likely new management that we should all be made aware of. Apologies if I was not clear and you feel the thread was dumb.

Optional · 08-16-20, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Rowlo

Game was graded correctly as cancelled, but make no mistake that it was due to the powers of this forum. Perhaps Optional, I was not clear. I have never once waited per the rules for game to be ruled only after 5am. That may have spoiled me from the rules. My quarrel however stems from the BM comments made about being graded and showing postponed. Promised to be graded ASAP as usual to then be told all was closed and when I asked if the game needed to be completed 8/16 I was told yes. It is best to be clear when it comes to grading. Due to the many instances we have seen BM put some through as of late, there is reason in my eyes to make sure what I know as the best book remain that way. They are not taking calls, and there are new rules and likely new management that we should all be made aware of. Apologies if I was not clear and you feel the thread was dumb.

I think the CS confusion is just about the new rules this season being new to them too.

I don't think there was ever any doubt about how it would be graded. Given how many places they made the new rules clear across their site.

Rowlo · 08-16-20, 07:04 PM

Understood and would like to thank you for your support. I have been on this forum for many years but in the shadows learning from you all. Glad to finally create an account and hopefully contribute to the community.

Rowlo · 08-17-20, 10:33 AM

I do feel it very necessary to say that where some have witnessed some irregularities with BM as of late, what is VERY regular with BM is their speed in which they process a withdrawal. Less than 1 hour for max BTC is 100% enough to keep them as my fave and shut me the hell up!

hehfest · 08-17-20, 02:21 PM

Live betting for NHL playoffs only between periods. Last year, that wasn't the case. Not too happy about that.