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  • Danj0123
    Restricted User
    • 12-11-19
    • 16

    #1
    All Bettheline.ag Issues
    Between us, my brother and I have over $17,500 in our Bettheline.ag accounts. I request a payout of $1,000 last Thursday. The funds were deducted from my account and I was told that it would be processed by Monday at the latest. I have yet to receive anything in my Bitcoin wallet. Since Monday, no one has been answering calls, which go directly to voicemail, or any emails. The live chat is also not not working. This morning, the homepage of the site says 'no games offered today' and there is no way to log in anymore. It appears this may have been a scam site and I'm extremely worried that my brother and I are out a significant amount of money. Does anyone have any information or advice on this? I submitted a formal complaint to SBR but I'd really like any feedback in the meantime. It's unbelievable our money is possibly going to be stolen at a point when my entire bankroll as well as my brother's (who i advised to use them in the first place) was in this particular site.
    Last edited by Optional; 12-11-24, 12:53 AM. Reason: title
  • Danj0123
    Restricted User
    • 12-11-19
    • 16

    #2
    Sorry it's 'Bettheline.ag'
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    • littlekona
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-19-15
      • 5241

      #3
      not a member but jumped on site and looks fine and chat agent answered....LOL your brother
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      • Danj0123
        Restricted User
        • 12-11-19
        • 16

        #4
        Yes, actually I have an account and so does my brother. Not sure what's so unbelievable about that.
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        • PD77
          SBR MVP
          • 12-11-09
          • 2381

          #5
          I don’t play there but someone named Kennedy sends me weekly emails trying to get me to join. Is the site even rated at SBR? I can’t find anything and this is the only thread I found.
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          • Optional
            Administrator
            • 06-10-10
            • 60686

            #6
            Originally posted by Danj0123
            Between us, my brother and I have over $17,500 in our Bettheline.ag accounts. I request a payout of $1,000 last Thursday. The funds were deducted from my account and I was told that it would be processed by Monday at the latest. I have yet to receive anything in my Bitcoin wallet. Since Monday, no one has been answering calls, which go directly to voicemail, or any emails. The live chat is also not not working. This morning, the homepage of the site says 'no games offered today' and there is no way to log in anymore. It appears this may have been a scam site and I'm extremely worried that my brother and I are out a significant amount of money. Does anyone have any information or advice on this? I submitted a formal complaint to SBR but I'd really like any feedback in the meantime. It's unbelievable our money is possibly going to be stolen at a point when my entire bankroll as well as my brother's (who i advised to use them in the first place) was in this particular site.
            They have probably just blocked you personally.

            Couple of previous threads where other posters complain of not being paid, and suspect it is a new front end to known scam CRsportsbet


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            • stevex
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 05-02-10
              • 5122

              #7
              I filed a complaint with SBR about a month ago but nothing came of it. Not only do they owe me $4,000 but previous payouts were disputed in a well known money transfer service and there's literally nothing I can do about it. The absolute scum of the scum are those guys.
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              • themike78
                SBR MVP
                • 07-01-13
                • 4873

                #8
                I get the weekly emails as well from them. I just delete them. Stick with the top books and you will have no issues. If what optional said is true and they are related to crsportsbet stay far away. Complete scam book.
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                • stevex
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 05-02-10
                  • 5122

                  #9
                  Originally posted by themike78
                  I get the weekly emails as well from them. I just delete them. Stick with the top books and you will have no issues. If what optional said is true and they are related to crsportsbet stay far away. Complete scam book.
                  I'll be honest with ya'll I really feel like Crsportsbet and BetTheLine are completely different outfits. Crsportsbet has always paid me and never disputed payouts while BetTheLine has not only not paid me but they've disputed payouts.
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                  • themike78
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-01-13
                    • 4873

                    #10
                    Originally posted by stevex
                    I'll be honest with ya'll I really feel like Crsportsbet and BetTheLine are completely different outfits. Crsportsbet has always paid me and never disputed payouts while BetTheLine has not only not paid me but they've disputed payouts.
                    They could be. But like I said no reason to play with these places. I like to gamble on games not gamble whether or not I'm going to get paid. Youwager. Heritage. Bookmaker etc. all solid and you don't have to worry about getting stiffed.
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                    • stevex
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 05-02-10
                      • 5122

                      #11
                      Originally posted by themike78
                      They could be. But like I said no reason to play with these places. I like to gamble on games not gamble whether or not I'm going to get paid. Youwager. Heritage. Bookmaker etc. all solid and you don't have to worry about getting stiffed.
                      Understandable but it's a fact that having multiple books at your disposal is a key to long term success (if that's what you're aiming for). It's also nice to get bonuses when sending money offshore and most of the larger books do not offer enticing bonuses (except for BetOnline that is).
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                      • themike78
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-01-13
                        • 4873

                        #12
                        Originally posted by stevex
                        Understandable but it's a fact that having multiple books at your disposal is a key to long term success (if that's what you're aiming for). It's also nice to get bonuses when sending money offshore and most of the larger books do not offer enticing bonuses (except for BetOnline that is).
                        True. But there are enough proven books where you can have multiple outs and not worry about getting paid. I can name at least 20 legit books off the top of my head that will pay. Some of these scam places will pay some people but not pay others. That's how they stay open. Luckily I've never been not paid by book in 20 years of offshore gambling.
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                        • stevex
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 05-02-10
                          • 5122

                          #13
                          Originally posted by themike78
                          True. But there are enough proven books where you can have multiple outs and not worry about getting paid. I can name at least 20 legit books off the top of my head that will pay. Some of these scam places will pay some people but not pay others. That's how they stay open. Luckily I've never been not paid by book in 20 years of offshore gambling.
                          Could you PM your list of legit 20 that accept U.S. customers? I'd just like to compare notes and see if I have what you have.
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                          • Danj0123
                            Restricted User
                            • 12-11-19
                            • 16

                            #14
                            How does this POS Charles (the only one who seems to work at BTL) and others like him get away with this? I know these are off-shore books but there have to be ways to bring these people to justice. So I'm just out $7,000 and my brother is out $10,500, and there's nothing we can do about it? Plus, this is really going to hurt our relationship as I actually advised him to start playing with them because of the bonuses, and I feel extreme guilt now. These people would be felons in the US but since they're off shore no one can do anything about it?
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                            • stevex
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-02-10
                              • 5122

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Danj0123
                              How does this POS Charles (the only one who seems to work at BTL) and others like him get away with this? I know these are off-shore books but there have to be ways to bring these people to justice. So I'm just out $7,000 and my brother is out $10,500, and there's nothing we can do about it? Plus, this is really going to hurt our relationship as I actually advised him to start playing with them because of the bonuses, and I feel extreme guilt now. These people would be felons in the US but since they're off shore no one can do anything about it?
                              Was dealing with the same guy. Scum of the earth types these dudes are and what makes it even worse is it's right around Christmas time that he did this.
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                              • PD77
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-11-09
                                • 2381

                                #16
                                Unless I am missing it, SBR needs to initiate a rating for this book. They may help prevent future people from depositing but won’t do anything for you. File a complaint with SBR and see what happens, can’t hurt.
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                                • Danj0123
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 12-11-19
                                  • 16

                                  #17
                                  As I stated in my original post, I did submit a formal complaint this morning. How this site wasn't already blacklisted I don't know. I never would have deposited with them in the first place if I saw that they were.
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                                  • PD77
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-11-09
                                    • 2381

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Danj0123
                                    As I stated in my original post, I did submit a formal complaint this morning. How this site wasn't already blacklisted I don't know. I never would have deposited with them in the first place if I saw that they were.
                                    Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. We’ve all made mistakes, just make sure to learn from them. I play at three books now and do not take bonuses.
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                                    • TIP_EU
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 05-27-14
                                      • 60

                                      #19
                                      Bettheline = CRsportsbet.ag SCAM.
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                                      • Keewatinking21
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 06-27-17
                                        • 184

                                        #20
                                        That is your best line TIP.... I dont know anything about bettheline, but CRS has paid me without any problems. Stevex above has also been paid. I know people havent been paid but I cannot agree with the Scam comment aout CRS.

                                        Originally posted by TIP_EU
                                        Bettheline = CRsportsbet.ag SCAM.
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                                        • pologq
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-07-12
                                          • 19899

                                          #21
                                          SBR should live chat with Charles and see what he says
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                                          • stevex
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 05-02-10
                                            • 5122

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by pologq
                                            SBR should live chat with Charles and see what he says
                                            That would be classic. I’d love to see what that thief had to say.
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                                            • Danj0123
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 12-11-19
                                              • 16

                                              #23
                                              I filed a complaint with SBR yesterday morning and have yet to receive any response or even an acknowledgement. I'd really like to know why they didn't list any reports of your issue with them, as well as others I have heard about. There were no flags raised about this scam site, and if there had been it would have stopped me from ever signing up and depositing thousands of dollars. SBR really failed here as far as I can see, and they need to blacklist Bettheline.ag asap. Better late than never.
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                                              • pologq
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-07-12
                                                • 19899

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by stevex
                                                That would be classic. I’d love to see what that thief had to say.
                                                Not sure why that would not have happened in earlier cases before this one.
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                                                • Optional
                                                  Administrator
                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                  • 60686

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Keewatinking21
                                                  That is your best line TIP.... I dont know anything about bettheline, but CRS has paid me without any problems. Stevex above has also been paid. I know people havent been paid but I cannot agree with the Scam comment aout CRS.
                                                  They are definitely a scam. They owe many people here with no excuses offered for their no-pays.

                                                  You are getting paid from money they already stole from the first round of victims.

                                                  One bad month and you will be left high and dry too.
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                                                  • Keewatinking21
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 06-27-17
                                                    • 184

                                                    #26
                                                    Okay then they are a scam. I was only paid twice by them and havent played there since.

                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                    They are definitely a scam. They owe many people here with no excuses offered for their no-pays.

                                                    You are getting paid from money they already stole from the first round of victims.

                                                    One bad month and you will be left high and dry too.
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                                                    • Optional
                                                      Administrator
                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                      • 60686

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Keewatinking21
                                                      Okay then they are a scam. I was only paid twice by them and havent played there since.
                                                      But you already knew about all those no-pays didn't you?

                                                      So why do you dance like a puppet for them and act like there is any question that they are not thieving scammers?


                                                      Show a little personal integrity and ask them why not pay all the other no-pays when they are paying you, instead of going out of your way to post in public trying to trick people that they are not thieves and scammers.
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                                                      • Keewatinking21
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 06-27-17
                                                        • 184

                                                        #28
                                                        okay I will do that optional.

                                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                                        But you already knew about all those no-pays didn't you?

                                                        So why do you dance like a puppet for them and act like there is any question that they are not thieving scammers?


                                                        Show a little personal integrity and ask them why not pay all the other no-pays when they are paying you, instead of going out of your way to post in public trying to trick people that they are not thieves and scammers.
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                                                        • PD77
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-11-09
                                                          • 2381

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Danj0123
                                                          I filed a complaint with SBR yesterday morning and have yet to receive any response or even an acknowledgement. I'd really like to know why they didn't list any reports of your issue with them, as well as others I have heard about. There were no flags raised about this scam site, and if there had been it would have stopped me from ever signing up and depositing thousands of dollars. SBR really failed here as far as I can see, and they need to blacklist Bettheline.ag asap. Better late than never.
                                                          OP, just curious, of all the good books out there, what led you to possibly one of the worst ones? It wasn’t like you were researching sportsbooks on SBR and decided to choose this one because there was zero information about it. I’m guessing somebody, tout friend etc, steered you towards them or you were attracted to the large bonuses? SBR neither promoted nor blacklisted bettheline.ag so blaming them is a moot point. Now if you lost money at betislands, that is a different story.
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                                                          • Danj0123
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 12-11-19
                                                            • 16

                                                            #30
                                                            It was the bonuses basically. I play on a few other books but decided to try this one out. I got a couple of payouts, so I thought they were legit and turned my brother on to them as well. We deposited way more than we should have, but again, I received a few payouts and didn't see anything negative about them so wasn't overly concerned. Assigning some blame to SBR is not a moot point; if they received complaints about this book they should have listed them like they do with others. I have now heard from several people that had similar experiences with BTL and notified SBR, and absolutely nothing was brought to light here. Not to throw a pity party, but I still don't know how I'm going to deal with causing my brother, who has 3 kids, to lose almost his entire bankroll in addition to my own.
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                                                            • PD77
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-11-09
                                                              • 2381

                                                              #31
                                                              Fair enough. Be warned , there are plenty of other scam books out there that are not documented on SBR. And there are plenty of C and D rated books on SBR that should be rated F.
                                                              Based on your join date to SBR I was assuming you found SBR because of Bettheline and not vice versa.
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                                                              • stevex
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 05-02-10
                                                                • 5122

                                                                #32
                                                                SBR. Let us know what they say when you reach them on live chat.
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                                                                • pologq
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-07-12
                                                                  • 19899

                                                                  #33
                                                                  their 100% bonus is enticing when you are low on funds. i get it. even crsports bet gives 130% when you deposit with a 12 time rollover. i get emails from alex too all the time.
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                                                                  • Danj0123
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 12-11-19
                                                                    • 16

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Bettheline.ag is a scam site and SBR is doing nothing about it

                                                                    'Charles' at Bettheline.ag is a conman running a scam site. He owes me and my brother almost $18,000. Two weeks ago, he told me he was processing my payout; since then, he has not answered any calls, emails or live chat. My brother and I can no longer log in to our accounts. The coward is hiding somewhere ripping people off because he can't make an honest living.

                                                                    I submitted a complaint with SBR and followed up multiple times with them, but they are not responding at all. Apparently they've had similar complaints about this site in the past, and have not posted anything. If they had, I would have seen it when I researched this scam site and not deposited with them in the first place. I don't know if they are getting money from the scumbag coward Charles to not blacklist Bettheline.ag, but something needs to be done so more people don't get their hard earned money stolen by this thieving pathetic excuse for a man.
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                                                                    • Danj0123
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 12-11-19
                                                                      • 16

                                                                      #35
                                                                      By the way, 'Charles', if you're reading this, know that I'm hiring a private investigator and you WILL be found. Scum like you always pay in the end.
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