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  • infotimbo
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-24-18
    • 845

    #1
    Betonline - Missed window to complain about misgraded bet
    A couple of days ago I noticed that I had a (motorsports) bet graded incorrectly (as a loss instead of a winner) on Betonline ~two weeks ago.

    Their rules say "Account balances must be verified by the player on each call or visit to our website prior to wagering. When the player verifies and accepts their account balance, they agree all previous transactions are correct. All disputes and claims must be settled prior to making any additional wagers. Players must address all disputes and claims within seven days from the date of said wager" - and this is what they are now referring to, when I addressed the issue.

    Obviously it's my fault that I didn't have a look into it earlier, but I have never had any problems like this with Betonline, so I only check the balance occasionally.

    Do you have any experience with issues like this? Is there any hope to get this still corrected as a matter of goodwill maybe, when SBR gets involved?
  • Optional
    Administrator
    • 06-10-10
    • 61502

    #2
    Sounds a bit hard line on the rules if it's obviously a wrong grade.

    What was the bet?
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    • infotimbo
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-24-18
      • 845

      #3
      Originally posted by Optional
      What was the bet?
      “Formula 1 - USA Grand Prix - How many drivers will be classified? - Over 16½”

      18 cars were classified:


      Source: https://www.fia.com/file/106238/download

      I see how their mistake happened (as two more drivers -Gasly and Magnussen - are listed as "DNF", making it 16 cars to actually cross the finish line) - but in Formula 1 completing 90% of the laps is enough to get classified, so for a "How many drivers will be classified" type of bet, 18 is still the correct outcome, and therefor their settlement is 100% incorrect
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 61502

        #4
        I had the same bet in that race myself actually. Graded as a winner.

        Please send in a complaint form and ask if SBR can have a manager review this decision for you https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/

        I doubt that rule was really designed for this sort of situation.
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        • infotimbo
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-24-18
          • 845

          #5
          Originally posted by Optional
          Please send in a complaint form and ask if SBR can have a manager review this decision for you https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
          thanks, will do.

          Originally posted by Optional
          I had the same bet in that race myself actually. Graded as a winner.
          with a different bookie though?! Or with Betonline as well?
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          • Optional
            Administrator
            • 06-10-10
            • 61502

            #6
            Not BOL. Aussie book.
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            • infotimbo
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-24-18
              • 845

              #7
              okay, yeah, afaik only 5dimes settles bets based on the number of finishers instead of classified cars - but in their case, "finishers" is also clearly stated in the description of the bet (which is most obviously not the case with Betonline).

              I have sent in the complaint. Will keep you updated.
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              • DontTailMe
                SBR MVP
                • 03-24-19
                • 2897

                #8
                Originally posted by Optional
                I had the same bet in that race myself actually. Graded as a winner.

                Please send in a complaint form and ask if SBR can have a manager review this decision for you https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/

                I doubt that rule was really designed for this sort of situation.
                That's really odd. I always assumed all wagers spawning from the very same line were graded as a single lot.
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                • milwaukee mike
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 08-22-07
                  • 26914

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DontTailMe
                  That's really odd. I always assumed all wagers spawning from the very same line were graded as a single lot.
                  different books have different grading

                  betonline grades a lot of stuff wrong, at times they get better, then they start grading things wrong again
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                  • infotimbo
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 10-24-18
                    • 845

                    #10
                    as mentioned, this time it was a mistake that can happen easily though, when a book just copies odds elsewhere but knows close to nothing about the sports.

                    It still shouldn't happen of course, but I also made a mistake by not checking earlier to get it corrected in time.
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                    • DontTailMe
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-24-19
                      • 2897

                      #11
                      Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                      different books have different grading

                      betonline grades a lot of stuff wrong, at times they get better, then they start grading things wrong again
                      Yeah, I didn't see it was a different book when I wrote that.

                      OF COURSE different books can have different grading
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                      • infotimbo
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 10-24-18
                        • 845

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        I had the same bet in that race myself actually. Graded as a winner.
                        Please send in a complaint form and ask if SBR can have a manager review this decision for you https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
                        I doubt that rule was really designed for this sort of situation.
                        quick update: after 4 weeks, I unfortunately haven't heard back from Betonline yet - nor have they replied to the e-mail I sent them myself (before submitting the complaint).
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                        • NBAtanker
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 11-09-19
                          • 288

                          #13
                          It’s a pity UK books limits are crap because they never mess up like this and if they do they’ll fix straight away
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                          • infotimbo
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-24-18
                            • 845

                            #14
                            Betonline has just contacted me after coming across the thread on here and credited the winnings to my account
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                            • Optional
                              Administrator
                              • 06-10-10
                              • 61502

                              #15
                              Originally posted by infotimbo
                              Betonline has just contacted me after coming across the thread on here and credited the winnings to my account
                              Wow that was fast.

                              Only PMed them to please take a look under an hour ago.



                              Thanks for letting forum know outcome.
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                              • infotimbo
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 10-24-18
                                • 845

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Optional
                                Wow that was fast.
                                Only PMed them to please take a look under an hour ago.
                                ah, that was really quick indeed then. Thanks a lot for bringing it to their attention again
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 61502

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by infotimbo

                                  ah, that was really quick indeed then. Thanks a lot for bringing it to their attention again
                                  Thats ok, sounded like we dropped the ball letting them know about the problem. Always expected they would look after you.
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                                  • RedApples
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-02-18
                                    • 721

                                    #18
                                    BetOnline really is the best. Hope they continue to be as solvent as they are now.
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