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  • cx89
    SBR Hustler
    • 05-07-18
    • 58

    #1
    Bitcoin Deposit and Withdrawal Fluctuations
    Sent in $1.5k btc deposit @ 4:55 PM PST when price was around $8650. (At this moment its 9400 (in the 5 min it took me to write this... price is moving insanely fast up for anyone reading this later.)

    I jumped from CB to Blockhain to 5dimes with no confirmations.. meaning block chain never had the BTC to send to 5D until they got a transaction from CB. Thus meaning it would need to be included in two separate blocks before 5 dimes received anything... During that time price went from $8650 to $9250. On a $1,500 deposit that was around $105 almost ten percent of my deposit.

    You know the story... they adjust down when prices goes down after 15 min window but if price jumps they gonna steal...
    https://imgur.com/a/AkMvw66
  • cx89
    SBR Hustler
    • 05-07-18
    • 58

    #2
    Transcript ---

    Name: CX89Account Number: 5DIMESChoose a department:
    Deposits Mary Fri, 10/25/19 08:42:00 pm America/New_York
    Welcome to Customer Service Live Assistance. Your feedback is important to us.
    You may rate this chat at any point, to help improve your customer experience.
    Hi, this is Mary how may I help you today?
    CX89 08:42:39 pm Would like to know why market rate was not applied to my batch depositBtc*

    Mary 08:43:08 pm Can you please confirm both, account number and 4-digit PIN.
    CX89 08:43:26 pm 5d******* ****5d******* ****
    Mary 08:44:02 pm Thank you.Please confirm the bitcoin address provided by our cashier.
    CX89 08:44:59 pm Sent hr ago @ 8650 and price moved to 9200+ by time of

    credit39HyWa5w8Xa3zFjnnNBG4P3wo2P4qNmAab
    Mary 08:47:35 pm Thank you, allow me a few minutes.
    CX89 08:49:09 pm $105 difference

    Mary 08:51:15 pm Thank you for holding, still checking on this for you, allow me a few more minutes.Than you for holding, allow me 5 more minutes, still checking on this for you.
    08:55:18 pm Ok
    Mary 08:58:24 pm Thanks for waiting. I just checked the deposit and it appears that you sent 0.17240557 BTC, with the fixed exchange rate that was stated on the cashier (1 BTC = 8664.0097 USD) you can calculate that the credited amount is correct. 8664.0097 x 0.17240557 = 1,493.72
    CX89 09:00:42 pm I’m not in the mood for games I’ll post this on every forum gambling forum I got clear timed screen shots of everything... I have deposited many times when you have adjusted price down after the 15 min window
    Mary 09:01:11 pm It's not a game, sorry you feel that it is. The fixed exchange rate that was stated on the cashier was 1 BTC = 8664.0097 USD, the amojunt credited to your account is correct.

    CX89 09:01:25 pm
    Very bad look to be shorting people on deposits
    Mary 09:01:45 pm We aren't doing that, sorry you feel that way.Is there anything else I can assist you with?
    CX89 09:02:24 pm The box never even hit the chain at 8650 didn’t even leave Coinbase never mind intermediary walletOk hope it’s worth it straight theft btc never even left at 8650 in the 15 window

    Mary 09:04:18 pm The fixed exchange rate wasn't 8650 it was 8664.0097 as I stated above.
    CX89 09:04:30 pm At what time?Love to know
    Mary 09:04:54 pm At the time you made the deposit.which was at 7:55 PM ET.
    CX89 09:05:23 pm Ahh when the btc wasn’t even on the blockchain amazing Ok Well I guess the 105 is worth it to uUnreal ok

    Mary 09:06:37 pm Is there anything else I can assist you with?

    Sorry pasted from my phone, but you get it..
    Last edited by cx89; 10-25-19, 09:11 PM.
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    • PD77
      SBR MVP
      • 12-11-09
      • 2380

      #3
      Yep, been there done that. What’s even worse is when it goes down and you lose $100, and you know no matter how many confirmations you get it’s not going to make the 15 minute window. The processor at 5Dimes has to be making a killing, they can not lose on BTC deposits. They should take Heritages approach to BTC deposits if they’re going to do it that way.
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      • cx89
        SBR Hustler
        • 05-07-18
        • 58

        #4
        Now over 10k from 9400 in last 20 min for reference.
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        • spro23
          SBR MVP
          • 07-17-15
          • 1129

          #5
          If you send more than the deposit amount they keep the spread. I assumed they would just add to what you sent.
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          • Ghenghis Kahn
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-02-12
            • 19734

            #6
            That's why books that use dollars love bitcoin deposits. They can manipulate the price in their favor.

            Think of it this way, at least you didn't deposit yesterday...
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 61489

              #7
              Originally posted by cx89
              Sent in $1.5k btc deposit @ 4:55 PM PST when price was around $8650. (At this moment its 9400 (in the 5 min it took me to write this... price is moving insanely fast up for anyone reading this later.)

              I jumped from CB to Blockhain to 5dimes with no confirmations.. meaning block chain never had the BTC to send to 5D until they got a transaction from CB. Thus meaning it would need to be included in two separate blocks before 5 dimes received anything... During that time price went from $8650 to $9250. On a $1,500 deposit that was around $105 almost ten percent of my deposit.

              You know the story... they adjust down when prices goes down after 15 min window but if price jumps they gonna steal...
              https://imgur.com/a/AkMvw66
              This is why I roll my eyes at the drama queens on here with their conspiracy theories about being scammed.

              You're wrong about that. Two transactions involvong the same bitcoin can end up in the same block.

              Many of the long time bitcoin users around here will attest to that fact, as they make it happen on purpose often when books send withdrawals.

              So you're probably wrong about all your other assumptions too.


              Although no doubt one of the other late adopter ludites who make ignorant threads like this will pop in now and claim that's wrong as usual
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 61489

                #8
                Originally posted by cx89
                CX89 09:00:42 pm I’m not in the mood for games I’ll post this on every forum gambling forum I got clear timed screen shots of everything....
                If you have clear timed screenshots that show what you say, please post them.

                If I can confirm what you say, SBR will go into bat for you.


                Or even better just post the transaction ID, and I will be able to tell you the exact unedited facts of your transaction.
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                • RedApples
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-02-18
                  • 721

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Optional
                  This is why I roll my eyes at the drama queens on here with their conspiracy theories about being scammed.

                  You're wrong about that. Two transactions involvong the same bitcoin can end up in the same block.

                  Many of the long time bitcoin users around here will attest to that fact, as they make it happen on purpose often when books send withdrawals.

                  So you're probably wrong about all your other assumptions too.


                  Although no doubt one of the other late adopter ludites who make ignorant threads like this will pop in now and claim that's wrong as usual
                  Dude. Seriously. Why talk down to a guy and make such an absurdly unfair statement.

                  If the guy said something incorrect, correct him. But to go and say he's probably wrong about everything because he was wrong about one thing is so over the line. I'm not sure if you get off on abusing your position but it sure seems like it.

                  I've made quite a few Bitcoin deposits with 5Dimes and I've always gotten less than my deposit. Sometimes, much less. A few times the coin has went up in the interim. On the reverse side of things, I've gotten more than my deposit when using Bitcoin to deposit on BetOnline. I certainly stand behind anyone who says that these books are cheating customers by locking in prices, and giving less when coin goes down and not giving more when it goes up. Been on that end too many times not to stand behind that.
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                  • Ghenghis Kahn
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-02-12
                    • 19734

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RedApples
                    Dude. Seriously. Why talk down to a guy and make such an absurdly unfair statement.

                    If the guy said something incorrect, correct him. But to go and say he's probably wrong about everything because he was wrong about one thing is so over the line. I'm not sure if you get off on abusing your position but it sure seems like it.

                    I've made quite a few Bitcoin deposits with 5Dimes and I've always gotten less than my deposit. Sometimes, much less. A few times the coin has went up in the interim. On the reverse side of things, I've gotten more than my deposit when using Bitcoin to deposit on BetOnline. I certainly stand behind anyone who says that these books are cheating customers by locking in prices, and giving less when coin goes down and not giving more when it goes up. Been on that end too many times not to stand behind that.
                    The guy makes his living getting paid by these offshore books. What do you expect?
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                    • Ant23
                      Restricted User
                      • 02-14-19
                      • 492

                      #11
                      Yeah....I thought it was pretty low class as well. Moderators make the rules so be careful how much $hit you talk b/c the mods can silence you.
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                      • RedApples
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 10-02-18
                        • 721

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ant23
                        Yeah....I thought it was pretty low class as well. Moderators make the rules so be careful how much $hit you talk b/c the mods can silence you.
                        Nah, don't ever be careful for being fair and respectful while questioning someone in a position of authority. I am the admin of a message board that also has moderators. The best course of action for moderators is to stay out of the fray as little as possible. That isn't to say at the same time they should be vigilant in offering their help and knowledge as much as possible. But to talk down to users is one of the golden rules of moderating. The same way a judge must be fair. I haven't seen other mods aside from Optional taking this stance, and I'd hope that there is a review process for banning members, making sure what they are doing and saying is actually out of line. So I wouldn't worry, and neither should you. That isn't to say that I won't get removed for speaking freely and honestly, but I'd pray it didn't happen on a site that has to stand for integrity, in a world (the sports betting world) where integrity means the most. I know Optional feels the same way (as he's stated in another thread), so while I appreciate the concern, personally I would say please do not hold back if you have something to say. It could only make matters worse.

                        I hope people who read the responses that they are getting (the unfair ones) won't be dissuaded from voicing their issues, often legitimate ones, with the sad reality that they might be immediately written off as being some lunatic who is fabricating an issue or making too big of a deal out of something.
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                        • cx89
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 05-07-18
                          • 58

                          #13
                          pics are in the thread... sent at 4:55 not at block til 530 no confirmations til 6. second image.

                          SBR won't do anything unless a book doesn't pay or account is being held hostage.

                          Optional is a 60+ yr old 400 pound bald walrus. I've seen the pics from the bash this guy probably got diabetes and won't be around very much longer so I don't really care if hes mean to me or not the guy ain't long for this world. Everyone knows hes an asshole nothing new.
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                          • Antcog23
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 08-13-18
                            • 5

                            #14
                            so cx89 you stoop to the level of the person you complain is being unfair? 1 thing for sure.......gamblers are usually not very good at turning the other cheek.
                            let it go guys and lets make some $$$$$
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                            • cx89
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 05-07-18
                              • 58

                              #15
                              i got robbed by 5d. Then I get called a liar and a fggt for complaining from opt. I don't know penetrating offshore such a scumpit.

                              I literally have done nothing but complain about being ripped off and i called a fggot and a liar. stay classy SBR
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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 61489

                                #16
                                Originally posted by cx89
                                i got robbed by 5d. Then I get called a liar and a fggt for complaining from opt. I don't know penetrating offshore such a scumpit.

                                I literally have done nothing but complain about being ripped off and i called a fggot and a liar. stay classy SBR
                                I called you a liar??

                                And a fggt???


                                You're whole angry ranting complaint is based on the fact you say those two transactions could not be completed in the same block to make it in time.

                                You are wrong about that.


                                If you have been "ripped off" it's easily determined by giving the TX ID as asked.


                                If you posted the transaction ID, anyone here familiar with bitcoin can confirm what time it was sent and received.

                                And like I said, if you are correct, then SBR would go into bat for you


                                You're personal attack on me instead of doing that shows you probably know you're wrong.

                                So I have banned you for trolling and lying about me calling you names like fggt.


                                If you think I am unfair here, you are welcome to email forum@sportsbookreview.com and show my boss where I called you names or a liar or gave you any incorrect info here.
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