Bookmaker.eu Limits

[flabrah5]

So I have large limits. Interesting enough, Bookmaker is my choice for a Sportsbook. They pay out quick and have high limits.

My question is, they won't raise my limit past $10k for MLB sides and $5k for totals. What's odd is they allow multiple bets and I can wager as much as I want, I just have to keep making different tickets (they are even the same odds most of the time).

Why is it they allow this, but won't just make it easier for me to let me do a larger wager in one ticket?

I literally put three (3) $5k tickets in on the White Sox @ Rays o8.5. And Bookmaker won't take action over $5k, but is perfectly fine with me making 3 tickets for a total of $15k on the same wager with the same odds.

Just seems funny to me, would love to know if there is some reason behind this that one of you can share with me

BOL to all

[eaglesfan371]

The fact they refuse to move on odds when you wager the max tells all, you’re a major whale and they thank you for the donations.

[flabrah5]

The fact they refuse to move on odds when you wager the max tells all, you’re a major whale and they thank you for the donations.

I'm actually up around $124k this month. About $300k overall since joining in February.

Also, my lines move significantly / every time on tennis, but rarely (a point or two) on baseball.

Thanks for the input though. I just came here to see if someone knew why - not to have a clown who has too much time on his hands to stop, read, and post incorrect information. Jealous or just the negative guy with no friends at the table in life?

[Frank]

They do it so they have a chance to move the number, if they choose to.

The books who actually move on action instead of air, which are very few anymore, usually allow re-bets after a sufficient amount of time to evaluate their position on the game and decide if a line move is necessary.

Nowadays, there are very few bookmakers left who actually take a bet, move on action, and take a re-bet.

Most are just clone-joints who just copy lines, don't know how to book, and kick out anyone who wins.

[flabrah5]

They do it so they have a chance to move the number, if they choose to.

The books who actually move on action instead of air, which are very few anymore, usually allow re-bets after a sufficient amount of time to evaluate their position on the game and decide if a line move is necessary.

Nowadays, there are very few bookmakers left who actually take a bet, move on action, and take a re-bet.

Most are just clone-joints who just copy lines, don't know how to book, and kick out anyone who wins.

Thank you, Frank! This makes a lot of sense and I didn't think of that angle. They do get more money out of me when I make the $5k-$15k plays on tennis, so it is working in their favor.

BOL to you, I really appreciate it.

[eaglesfan371]

I'm actually up around $124k this month. About $300k overall since joining in February.

Also, my lines move significantly / every time on tennis, but rarely (a point or two) on baseball.

Thanks for the input though. I just came here to see if someone knew why - not to have a clown who has too much time on his hands to stop, read, and post incorrect information. Jealous or just the negative guy with no friends at the table in life?

So how many times did you edit that to sound more cocky and further insulting?

You aren’t fooling anyone. If they deemed you a long term +EV player they would move the line.

[RobertAnthonyT7]

The OP raised a fair question. I’ve often wondered the same. It’s not a true limit because the player could continually re pop. I’ve bet over $20K numerous times at Bookmaker on MLB games.

Side note- BM is hands down the best offshore book in the world. Not even debatable. I’ve been paid $25K via bitcoin in a few hours on numerous occasions. I’ve also been around since the Fire-Pay days and tried tons of books including Heritage which severely limited me after one winning day.

I’m down overall for full disclosure. Around $280K when factoring casinos too.

[RobertAnthonyT7]

They do it so they have a chance to move the number, if they choose to.

The books who actually move on action instead of air, which are very few anymore, usually allow re-bets after a sufficient amount of time to evaluate their position on the game and decide if a line move is necessary.

Nowadays, there are very few bookmakers left who actually take a bet, move on action, and take a re-bet.

Most are just clone-joints who just copy lines, don't know how to book, and kick out anyone who wins.

Only problem with your theory Frank is that you could re-bet immediately. I do agree with your other points though.

[BrickJames]

So how many times did you edit that to sound more cocky and further insulting?

You aren’t fooling anyone. If they deemed you a long term +EV player they would move the line.

You have no idea what BookMakers handle on MLB games are, how the fuk would you know what would and wouldn't move BookMakers lines?

You are so arrogant dude.

[rangerz2478]

The OP raised a fair question. I’ve often wondered the same. It’s not a true limit because the player could continually re pop. I’ve bet over $20K numerous times at Bookmaker on MLB games.

Side note- BM is hands down the best offshore book in the world. Not even debatable. I’ve been paid $25K via bitcoin in a few hours on numerous occasions. I’ve also been around since the Fire-Pay days and tried tons of books including Heritage which severely limited me after one winning day.

I’m down overall for full disclosure. Around $280K when factoring casinos too.

25k btc payout at once? They refused to raise mine over 10 per day.

[Optional]

The fact they refuse to move on odds when you wager the max tells all, you’re a major whale and they thank you for the donations.

Can't really say that for MLB at Bookmaker.

I guess even the sharpest accounts often take multiple max bets to move most MLB lines there.

They do it so they have a chance to move the number, if they choose to.

The books who actually move on action instead of air, which are very few anymore, usually allow re-bets after a sufficient amount of time to evaluate their position on the game and decide if a line move is necessary.

Nowadays, there are very few bookmakers left who actually take a bet, move on action, and take a re-bet.

Most are just clone-joints who just copy lines, don't know how to book, and kick out anyone who wins.

Great explanation Frank.

[flabrah5]

Thanks, Guys.

Woke up to reduced limits in MLB. $5k a side, $3k a total now. So, they clearly don't mind the volume, but are going to make me do it more.

Had many lines move last night on the multi-bet Giants. That said, it's hit or miss. Something moved drastically with every ticket, or it doesn't move at all. Took Jarry this AM at +115 and those always move. 3 bets of 5k later, got them all at +115.

So, Frank's point might stand up the most. Gives them the OPTION to move it, which increases their edge if/when they decide to.

Who knows.

[DontTailMe]

Only problem with your theory Frank is that you could re-bet immediately. I do agree with your other points though.

It’s not a problem with his theory at all. And it’s not a theory. It’s how it works. The lines move immediately and automatically based on Bookmaker’s algorithm, not some guy sitting there. So, yes, you can re-bet immediately, but the line will have had a chance to move during that half second in between wagers.

[RobertAnthonyT7]

It’s not a problem with his theory at all. And it’s not a theory. It’s how it works. The lines move immediately and automatically based on Bookmaker’s algorithm, not some guy sitting there. So, yes, you can re-bet immediately, but the line will have had a chance to move during that half second in between wagers.

Ok. Well I learned something. For the person asking about $25K, maybe they do it for me because I’ve been with them for a very long time. Don’t really want to get into it and ruin it.

[theflyingbuffalo]

Are you really getting the same odds that often? If I bet 1k+ on MLB sides/totals it always immediately moves for me after. Sometimes I notice it will comeback towards or all the way to the odds I took it at, but if I max bet something like a first half, it never moves back in a short amount of time.

[DontTailMe]

Are you really getting the same odds that often? If I bet 1k+ on MLB sides/totals it always immediately moves for me after. Sometimes I notice it will comeback towards or all the way to the odds I took it at, but if I max bet something like a first half, it never moves back in a short amount of time.

Nice humblebrag

They're obviously going to treat people differently. New accounts won't move odds whatsoever, until they figure out where that player stands. Obviously the same goes for -EV bettors.

[theflyingbuffalo]

Nice humblebrag

They're obviously going to treat people differently. New accounts won't move odds whatsoever, until they figure out where that player stands. Obviously the same goes for -EV bettors.

Sorry my post came across like that, what I was trying to figure out is whether OP meant the odds don't move at all or if they move and then comeback. A normal outcome for me say I bet O 8.5 -110, maybe it will move to -112, but then it will be back to -110 both sides within minutes.

I wonder how much Bookmaker ties itself to the rest of the market (i.e. Pinnacle). While I agree with Frank's answer I think a large part of whether they choose to move the line or not is whether or not the rest of the market moved and not so much whether that individual account is sharp.

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I wonder how much Bookmaker ties itself to the rest of the market (i.e. Pinnacle).

Depends on the market. For soccer (futball) Pinnacle does much higher volume than BM as they cater to Asian markets so Bookmaker might clone Pinny but on US Football (NFL/College) I think Bookmaker leads and Pinny follows.

[Barrakuda]

Hmm.... The OP is throwing around $30k bets and doesn't understand the fundamentals of line movement? Something is not adding up.

[milwaukee mike]

Hmm.... The OP is throwing around $30k bets and doesn't understand the fundamentals of line movement? Something is not adding up.

and has been on the forum for 7 years but is just now playing at bookmaker? and had limits cut?

never heard of anyone getting limits cut at bookmaker

[ZAMAZA]

I'm actually up around $124k this month. About $300k overall since joining in February.

300000 dollars earned?

[DontTailMe]

and has been on the forum for 7 years but is just now playing at bookmaker? and had limits cut?

never heard of anyone getting limits cut at bookmaker

My guess is his limits were not cut and is mistaking that for the normal variance of Bookmaker limits over time.

[DontTailMe]

Sorry my post came across like that, what I was trying to figure out is whether OP meant the odds don't move at all or if they move and then comeback. A normal outcome for me say I bet O 8.5 -110, maybe it will move to -112, but then it will be back to -110 both sides within minutes.

I wonder how much Bookmaker ties itself to the rest of the market (i.e. Pinnacle). While I agree with Frank's answer I think a large part of whether they choose to move the line or not is whether or not the rest of the market moved and not so much whether that individual account is sharp.

Don’t be sorry. I was just giving you a hard time

[milwaukee mike]

Thanks, Guys.

Woke up to reduced limits in MLB. $5k a side, $3k a total now. So, they clearly don't mind the volume, but are going to make me do it more.

Had many lines move last night on the multi-bet Giants. That said, it's hit or miss. Something moved drastically with every ticket, or it doesn't move at all. Took Jarry this AM at +115 and those always move. 3 bets of 5k later, got them all at +115.

So, Frank's point might stand up the most. Gives them the OPTION to move it, which increases their edge if/when they decide to.

Who knows.

i'm also curious about the 5k bets on atp 250 events (lowest tier)... usually i see limits of 1000 on those, like today if you look at european open/swiss open/atlanta open those are all 1k limits

[Limited]

Never saw 5k on ATP250, maybe some final match. Regarding to placing multiple bets without changing the line, not only my bets drop the odds I also am not able to re-bet even after the odds have been reduced. Excluding US top sports main lines.

[flabrah5]

i'm also curious about the 5k bets on atp 250 events (lowest tier)... usually i see limits of 1000 on those, like today if you look at european open/swiss open/atlanta open those are all 1k limits

Those are early rounds, all finals bets are 10k. Semis are 5k. 4th and QF usually 3k-5k.

And my lines change and they dont change. Its just very odd. I made many bets today on tennis as they were 1k to get more on them, they change. I came back 10 min later and the line moved back to where I originally bet.

Anyways, thanks for the help. I was really just asking a question. Wasnt "bragging" or whatever people thought.

And yes, Ive been here 7 years and had a local book forever until crypto became so easy. So sorry I wasnt betting online as long as you had just because I preferred a local guy to meetup in person. As crypto became easier, I chose to move to Bookmaker as I can also decide to withdrawal whenever I want and not deal with the week long credit lines. My bookie also stopped taking my large action, so I had no choice.

Have a good day, Gents. Feel free to talk amongst yourselves, but I was just asking a question. Too much hate on this forum its sad.

If it makes you feel better, Im super broke and lied and dont even bet this much and I live in a car. I just troll SBR to act like Im cool and bet large amounts on Bookmaker. Im sure that statement made half of you happy.

To the others that genuinely just have a conversation - I thank you. BOL to you guys.

[flabrah5]

My guess is his limits were not cut and is mistaking that for the normal variance of Bookmaker limits over time.

Im not sure. All I know is that Ive had 10k sides and 5k totals for full game MLB bets up until that day. Now they are 5k and 3k as I said. They are like that right now as well. They havent changed back to what I had before. I emailed support and Im waiting on an answer.

[flabrah5]

Hmm.... The OP is throwing around $30k bets and doesn't understand the fundamentals of line movement? Something is not adding up.

That wasnt my question. My question was why they wont raise my limits, but allow me to rebet to whatever amount I desire.

Can you read?

And if it makes you feel better, Im throwing around $10 bets. Are you feeling better now?

[flabrah5]

And here is an example of what I was saying, usually it always moves, then it doesnt like here.

But, my original question was just why they wont increase my limits, but allow me to do this. Some guys just turned this whole thing into a line movement question.

[flabrah5]

i'm also curious about the 5k bets on atp 250 events (lowest tier)... usually i see limits of 1000 on those, like today if you look at european open/swiss open/atlanta open those are all 1k limits

Here is your proof, since everyone on here just assumes everyone is lying.

[flabrah5]

Sorry my post came across like that, what I was trying to figure out is whether OP meant the odds don't move at all or if they move and then comeback. A normal outcome for me say I bet O 8.5 -110, maybe it will move to -112, but then it will be back to -110 both sides within minutes.

I wonder how much Bookmaker ties itself to the rest of the market (i.e. Pinnacle). While I agree with Frank's answer I think a large part of whether they choose to move the line or not is whether or not the rest of the market moved and not so much whether that individual account is sharp.

This whole thread has shifted to a completely different topic. All I asked is why they wouldn't up my limits but let me make as many tickets as I want even if I desired to throw 100k on a play.

Frank's explanation was to shift odds if they needed to and reevaluate their position. Which makes sense.

And yes, mine does that same thing. When it moves it's like that, hence now I will make wagers earlier in the day and keep double betting if it gets back to that.

As my previous two posts had pictures, that was not the case with those. But now, every tennis bet I make it moves a few points. Today was one of those days especially bc it is early rounds in the tourney so $1k Max's and putting 5-10 in moved things quite alot from the first ticket to the 5th or 10th.

[milwaukee mike]

This whole thread has shifted to a completely different topic. All I asked is why they wouldn't up my limits but let me make as many tickets as I want even if I desired to throw 100k on a play.

Frank's explanation was to shift odds if they needed to and reevaluate their position. Which makes sense.

And yes, mine does that same thing. When it moves it's like that, hence now I will make wagers earlier in the day and keep double betting if it gets back to that.

As my previous two posts had pictures, that was not the case with those. But now, every tennis bet I make it moves a few points. Today was one of those days especially bc it is early rounds in the tourney so $1k Max's and putting 5-10 in moved things quite alot from the first ticket to the 5th or 10th.

sorry if it seemed like i was being confrontational, i thought it was weird to have such high limits on lower tier tournaments... good to know they can get crazy high like other sports, sometimes i'm shocked by their limits since i'm so used to their 100/250/500 on fiba/esports/props, then they can be 5k on a golf future or ufc lol

[milwaukee mike]

also as a piece of advice i wouldn't repop as quickly, looked close to instantly, i think the sportsbook would tell you to wait a couple minutes so they have a better chance to change the line. i could be wrong, but i don't think bookmaker has ever come out and said it's OK to repop like betonline/5dimes have said, so they could always say that you're skirting the limits by jamming it so quickly.

[Bluehorseshoe]

This whole thread has shifted to a completely different topic. All I asked is why they wouldn't up my limits but let me make as many tickets as I want even if I desired to throw 100k on a play.

Frank's explanation was to shift odds if they needed to and reevaluate their position. Which makes sense.

And yes, mine does that same thing. When it moves it's like that, hence now I will make wagers earlier in the day and keep double betting if it gets back to that.

As my previous two posts had pictures, that was not the case with those. But now, every tennis bet I make it moves a few points. Today was one of those days especially bc it is early rounds in the tourney so $1k Max's and putting 5-10 in moved things quite alot from the first ticket to the 5th or 10th.

I'm curious to what your limits on player prop bets are. For some reason I'm maxed at $200 and if I bet anything I move the line.

[DontTailMe]

also as a piece of advice i wouldn't repop as quickly, looked close to instantly, i think the sportsbook would tell you to wait a couple minutes so they have a better chance to change the line. i could be wrong, but i don't think bookmaker has ever come out and said it's OK to repop like betonline/5dimes have said, so they could always say that you're skirting the limits by jamming it so quickly.

I don't see why this would be an issue at Bookmaker. As mentioned above, if the line is going to move due to your bet, it does so immediately after you click submit. There is no waiting period required. Therefore, it's impossible for you to jam in an extra bet that Bookmaker didn't want at current odds. Other books put in a system-enforced time delay between bets because their odds don't move instantaneously, like Bookmaker's do.