Piwi is powered by pinnacle

[ivanaalawi]

I received an e-mail about piwi which is said it is powered by pinnacle. To my surprise. It is really like pinnacle. I tried to register and deposit 50 euro and they add me another 50 euro for the bonus so total I got is 100 euro. I thought they are just joking but it's true.
It works like a sports book where you can manage to deposit and withdraw. It looks very good. Odds and limit are better than ps3838

[Optional]

piwi247.com
piwi88.com


Looks like new agent sites, with a signup form.

If someone signs up please let us know if you are assigned an agent.

Promo material on the site makes it look like Americans involved in design to me. Words like soccer and sides in the text.

[ivanaalawi]

This is how it looks like. It's actually more better in accessing in mobile
see link below :

Mobile Web : https://snag.gy/5T9DSI.jpg
Dekstop Page : https://snag.gy/mCNs5B.jpg
Dekstop deposit : https://snag.gy/JouPq2.jpg
Dekstop Withdrawal : https://snag.gy/NjQkCo.jpg

[Winpro]

They do not use the Skrill Automated Payments Interface. They have a personal Skrill account. Is this normal for а sportsbook powered by Pinnacle?

[ivanaalawi]

They do not use the Skrill Automated Payments Interface. They have a personal Skrill account. Is this normal for а sportsbook powered by Pinnacle?

I didn't noticed about that anymore cause my intention that time was to try because I was curious. Fortunately my deposit was credited successfully and they add me bonus as they promised. Everything looks good so far.

[eaglesfan371]

Brand new account

Brand new agent

Caution

[vsquare]

Do they allow parlay on live games?
Are there any agents that allow in play parlays?

[shari91]

This is a ghost account of someone who was previously banned for trying to tout another site so take the feedback in here with a grain of salt

[jjgold]

all these sites are scams

stay far away

[dealer wins]

Agreed, scam site for sure!

[Tom Dry]

I took the time to email Pinnacle to ask if there was any connection between Piwi and Pinnacle and this is what I got back:

"Dear Client,



Please be advised that the website that you provided is our Business partner site, but please note that the website is not directly affiliated to Pinnacle.


Should you need further assistance, please feel free to contact us.


Thank you.


Best regards,
Customer Service Department / Pinnacle,
customerservice@pinnacle.com"

[bookie]

I took the time to email Pinnacle to ask if there was any connection between Piwi and Pinnacle and this is what I got back:

"Dear Client,



Please be advised that the website that you provided is our Business partner site, but please note that the website is not directly affiliated to Pinnacle.


Should you need further assistance, please feel free to contact us.


Thank you.


Best regards,
Customer Service Department / Pinnacle,
customerservice@pinnacle.com"

Thanks for doing the homework Tom Dry. So Pinnacle hasn't vetted them, but, they have verified that the site has an arrangement with Pinnacle. Sometimes you don't even know that about these Pinnacle clone books. It looks like you have to use a VPN to access site from U.S., and it will be interesting to see if they do what AC88 does for BTC accounts.

I'll wait a couple of years, but I wish them luck. Having to be vulnerable to BTC price fluctuations makes me leery of Fairlay, and it would be great to have an out like this one.

[Optional]

Thanks for doing the homework Tom Dry. So Pinnacle hasn't vetted them, but, they have verified that the site has an arrangement with Pinnacle. Sometimes you don't even know that about these Pinnacle clone books. It looks like you have to use a VPN to access site from U.S., and it will be interesting to see if they do what AC88 does for BTC accounts.

I'll wait a couple of years, but I wish them luck. Having to be vulnerable to BTC price fluctuations makes me leery of Fairlay, and it would be great to have an out like this one.

It does not say they have not vetted them. Their sportsbook CS probably does not know what the Pinnacle B2B unit have or havent done. Just been told it's a real site.


BUT, I would be leary of any agent site offering accounts claiming no KYC, as we have seen in the case of AC88 that it can be Pinnacle telling the agent to do it in some cases.

[Tom Dry]

BUT, I would be leary of any agent site offering accounts claiming no KYC, as we have seen in the case of AC88 that it can be Pinnacle telling the agent to do it in some cases.

What do you mean there? The Pinnacle telling the agent to do it part, I mean

[Optional]

What do you mean there? The Pinnacle telling the agent to do it part, I mean

Are you asking how I know that? or dont you get what i am saying?

I know because I help look after the complaints and most of the time do the AC88 ones. And they told me.

[Tom Dry]

So Pinnacle told AC88 not to bother with KYC? But I thought AC88 do have KYC?

[Optional]

So Pinnacle told AC88 not to bother with KYC? But I thought AC88 do have KYC?

No idea what you are talking about as far as not bothering with kyc


And yes, AC88 sometimes ask for kyc. My point was that sometimes the upline book TELLS the agent to do KYC.

So this new agent site has no credibility in telling potential customers they will not ask for ID.

[bookie]

No idea what you are talking about as far as not bothering with kyc


And yes, AC88 sometimes ask for kyc. My point was that sometimes the upline book TELLS the agent to do KYC.

So this new agent site has no credibility in telling potential customers they will not ask for ID.

I hear you Optional. Thank you for the clarity.

Do you have any ideas about what alarm bells Pinnacles hears that would set them off to alert the agent to do a KYC documents request?

[Optional]

I hear you Optional. Thank you for the clarity.

Do you have any ideas about what alarm bells Pinnacles hears that would set them off to alert the agent to do a KYC documents request?

I don't. But the few clues I have got suggest betting syndicates are a target. Doing stuff like using lots of accounts to manipulate lines/odds. I think there was a bit of a systemic hole they were exploiting through agent accounts at one point.

It sounds like they really don't want UK accounts going through agents as well.

[Optional]

^^^ ordinary bettors have been caught up in investigations of syndicates btw. You don't have to be doing anything wrong to get KYCed, probably no more than bet the wrong market at the wrong time.

Just about everyone I know about through SBR has been cleared though.

[Tom Dry]

Anyone had a go at Piwi, anyway?

[skycrapper8080]

Anyone had a go at Piwi, anyway?

I tried to deposit small amount and play, my first chat was disconnected but the system was ok

[grzk]

On Saturday, I made a deposit of 10 euro which was credited to my account within around an hour. I also got an email from their support in order to clarify my Neteller address. The bonus was not added so I replied them back with question regarding it, but no answer. On Sunday, I sent another email asking about bonus but also no answer. Today (Tuesday), I opened chat on the website and within a minute someone have arrived. The person was helpful and said they normally send terms and conditions after registration and customer needs to accept it within 1 day, otherwise the bonus is forfeit. Anyway, they added the bonus today in my case.

I guess they need to polish some things. I guess if you want to make a deposit using Skrill/Neteller with email different that the one you have registered with at Piwi then you need to contact them or they'll contact you. I advise to contact with them shortly if the bonus wasn't credited and it seems to me it's much better to chat with them than to send an email. Also, I asked if it's possible to use their service with vpn and they said they're ok with it.

[jjgold]

[skycrapper8080]

I withdraw earlier and money arrived in my skrill in 5 minutes after i fill-up the form. No documents

[Poisec]

They do not use the Skrill Automated Payments Interface. They have a personal Skrill account. Is this normal for а sportsbook powered by Pinnacle?

Not good.

I know AC also works like this but frankly any sportsbook who operates with personal Skrill accounts should be avoided IMO.

[shari91]

ffs already

Amazing how three accounts join and post within 4 minutes about the exact same book. Oh and one of them had an older ghost name very similar to another new one in here. Bloody hell

[jjgold]

stay away from all brokers except asianconnect and even that do not use a lot of money

Zero regulation

[Alfie White]

jj clueless as always

AC is the first you should stay away given that they use private paysafe accounts.

[skycrapper8080]

I think there are reasons why they use private paysafe accounts. As mentioned above. AC88 also used private paysafe accounts but their service now are still alive and kicking

[jjgold]

betonline, 5 dimes , heritage same basic lines as pinnacle now or even better

lol brokers

[sadekmeister]

betonline, 5 dimes , heritage same basic lines as pinnacle now or even better

lol brokers

lol

[jjgold]

brokers

zero regulation

[Tom Dry]

Have any genuine players, e.g. non-ghost accounts, given this a go?

[LAbra2k]

who needs a new agent when we have already a Top agent AC88...