Best countries to live in for sports betting

**AimHigher** · 02-21-19, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW

Yeah, if trading is your thing. Betfair is circling the plughole since it merged with PaddyPower though.

I'd go Guernsey or Isle of Man if it was purely betting reasons. Access to everything inc native pinny, close to UK laws.

I'm pretty sure you can bet at an exchange, just like how you would bet at Pinnacle. No?

I was doing research to see if Pinny was legal in the Isle of Man. I couldn't find an answer. Do you know for certain that it is? If so, the Isle of Man would be an excellent option.

**USSR80** · 02-21-19, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick

Are you aware of some of the limits now on Pinnacle. College baskets for example. Spread max 4K, but as I post this the limit on all games is circled at 1 k. Totals max at a nickel. Now you can bet 375. And totals are always a 30 cent spread. Spread is a 16 cent spread. If you want to move to another country just for that you need to reconsider.

I understood you correctly, that Pinny accepts the first bet on a spread of 4k, and for a repeat bet it shows a maximum not of 4k, but only 1k for all matches?
Very interesting, and why for all matches, and not just for the match where was the bet?

In other sports have seen something like that?

**eath1** · 02-21-19, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by AimHigher

I'm pretty sure you can bet at an exchange, just like how you would bet at Pinnacle. No?

I was doing research to see if Pinny was legal in the Isle of Man. I couldn't find an answer. Do you know for certain that it is? If so, the Isle of Man would be an excellent option.

I think it is, but not sure. The problem about researching countries for sports betting is that there is not that much info online.

From what I've gathered, in Europe, Austria is pretty good for sports betting (no taxes and pinny is legal), and I'm currently looking for information about Malta.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 02-21-19, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by AimHigher

I was doing research to see if Pinny was legal in the Isle of Man. I couldn't find an answer. Do you know for certain that it is? If so, the Isle of Man would be an excellent option.

It's on Pinny's registration page, as are the channel islands.

**Brooklyn Dick** · 02-22-19, 06:17 AM

Originally posted by USSR80

I understood you correctly, that Pinny accepts the first bet on a spread of 4k, and for a repeat bet it shows a maximum not of 4k, but only 1k for all matches?
Very interesting, and why for all matches, and not just for the match where was the bet?

In other sports have seen something like that?

What I am saying is that the 4K limit only comes up a few hours before tip off. For example at 11AM EST time they are taking 1K, then it goes up in increments. By the time the 4K limit is reached the lines are solid. And that is for all matches except the early games which would be a bit higher. You can bet more at Bookmaker than Pinnacle.

And their totals on CB are all listed at 115-1. 30 Cent line. They just moved the limit on that one from 500 to 1,000. And again, not until late can you bet more than 500.

**AimHigher** · 03-01-19, 02:51 AM

Originally posted by Brooklyn Dick

What I am saying is that the 4K limit only comes up a few hours before tip off. For example at 11AM EST time they are taking 1K, then it goes up in increments. By the time the 4K limit is reached the lines are solid. And that is for all matches except the early games which would be a bit higher. You can bet more at Bookmaker than Pinnacle.

And their totals on CB are all listed at 115-1. 30 Cent line. They just moved the limit on that one from 500 to 1,000. And again, not until late can you bet more than 500.

Pinnacle has the "Maximum Bet" written at the top, yet it is not as it seems. Instead, there are little red circles beside each betting option. If you hover over the red circles, they always seem to show a smaller limit. Maybe it is as you say, that the red circle limits will increase closer to game time. I haven't paid enough attention to know.

I guess that is one reason why, so many bettors wait until just prior to game time to place their bets.

**moojoo** · 03-01-19, 04:03 AM

You can rebet at Pinnacle,so your theory dont stand.

**Optional** · 03-01-19, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by AimHigher

Pinnacle has the "Maximum Bet" written at the top, yet it is not as it seems. Instead, there are little red circles beside each betting option. If you hover over the red circles, they always seem to show a smaller limit. Maybe it is as you say, that the red circle limits will increase closer to game time. I haven't paid enough attention to know.

I guess that is one reason why, so many bettors wait until just prior to game time to place their bets.

Circled games = reduced limits and no parlaying.

**Brooklyn Dick** · 03-01-19, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by moojoo

You can rebet at Pinnacle,so your theory dont stand.

You rebet at Pinnacle laying 15-20 cents higher ML or laying an extra point on a game. Not me my friend.

**eath1** · 03-01-19, 08:55 AM

Hei, I've been researching more about countries around Europe and I found that Bulgaria accepts pinnacle players and winnings are not taxed. So far it's the country that looks closer to what I'm looking for and also, it is a really cheap country.

Has anyone here lived or lives in Bulgaria?

**Optional** · 03-01-19, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by eath1

Hei, I've been researching more about countries around Europe and I found that Bulgaria accepts pinnacle players and winnings are not taxed. So far it's the country that looks closer to what I'm looking for and also, it is a really cheap country.

Has anyone here lived or lives in Bulgaria?

I have a friend in Sofia I talk to quite a bit.

He would like to leave. But I think a lot of people in poorer countries imagine life will change in another country.

It sounds like quite a "strange" place to live. The music and movies he likes, the way he talks about the social life there.

I'd love to visit from what he says, but think you would have to have the option to leave to like it longer term from the way it sounds to me.

**bettingman6** · 03-01-19, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by danwinkler

if you are a big winner live in a first world country. canada probably best with tax laws, safety etc.
i would never live in country like mexico/costa rica or any developing/third world countries if i am betting big and making a living with sports betting.

Britain has no taxes on gambling period. Canada taxes professional gamblers.

And Britain has sportsbooks all over the place. There are very few sportsbooks in Canada and you have to do all of your betting in Canada online.

Although Pinnacle doesn’t operate in the UK for some reason.

**eath1** · 03-01-19, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by bettingman6

Britain has no taxes on gambling period. Canada taxes professional gamblers.

And Britain has sportsbooks all over the place. There are very few sportsbooks in Canada and you have to do all of your betting in Canada online.

Although Pinnacle doesn’t operate in the UK for some reason.

Yeah, if I could bet in pinnacle from the UK I wouldn't even think about moving to another country, but most of my earnings come from Pinnacle so I don't really have a choice...

**moojoo** · 03-01-19, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I have a friend in Sofia I talk to quite a bit.

He would like to leave. But I think a lot of people in poorer countries imagine life will change in another country.

It sounds like quite a "strange" place to live. The music and movies he likes, the way he talks about the social life there.

I'd love to visit from what he says, but think you would have to have the option to leave to like it longer term from the way it sounds to me.

To be fair Bulgaria is ok country to live. He might want go away because it difficult,small wages... But if you come as fpreigner and you will live good life financially i think you would like Bulgaria. Beautiful girls,cheap food,beer... Many books operate from there even Paysafe have their wing there...
They have nice seaside,nice mountines, among cheapest in Europe.
About 5 h drive from Sofia,you can go to Greece,Serbia,Romania...

**bettingman6** · 03-01-19, 07:01 PM

Anyway, I’m not sure how anybody could dispute that the US is the worst country in the world to make a living betting on sports. We don’t have access to either Pinnacle or the Greek.

If you spread money around several different small local sportsbooks in the UK, you shouldn’t get banned from books. It’ll be hard for books to figure out you’re a long term winner, unless they communicate with each other about you. Or you become somebody like Billy Walters whose betting skills are world famous.

**Alfa1234** · 03-02-19, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by moojoo

To be fair Bulgaria is ok country to live. He might want go away because it difficult,small wages... But if you come as fpreigner and you will live good life financially i think you would like Bulgaria. Beautiful girls,cheap food,beer... Many books operate from there even Paysafe have their wing there...
They have nice seaside,nice mountines, among cheapest in Europe.
About 5 h drive from Sofia,you can go to Greece,Serbia,Romania...

10% flat rate Corporate and personal taxes. Great country to start or have an (offshore) company as well.

**BigJay** · 03-03-19, 01:03 AM

Syria

**Nisi92** · 03-04-19, 11:28 AM

Living in Austria personally, I think its pretty good. Offline bookies are mostly crap except Admiral (which is getting worse too though) but online you can use most of the bookies (except Paddypower, Tempobet and some other UK books). No taxes (so far). Personally I'd like to try to live in Malta and the UK for a while...UK with its offline stores could be a paradise (but don't know the limits) and Malta is probably nice for the weather etc. and for online betting.

**pythonic** · 03-05-19, 03:57 AM

I think UK and Malta are the savest options. Austria doesn't have betfair as far as I know. Generally with unregulated countries you have the problem that regulations could change at any moment. I think something like that happened in Poland a while ago.

**eath1** · 03-21-19, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by Nisi92

Living in Austria personally, I think its pretty good. Offline bookies are mostly crap except Admiral (which is getting worse too though) but online you can use most of the bookies (except Paddypower, Tempobet and some other UK books). No taxes (so far). Personally I'd like to try to live in Malta and the UK for a while...UK with its offline stores could be a paradise (but don't know the limits) and Malta is probably nice for the weather etc. and for online betting.

Which betting shops are in Austria? I'm still considering different countries so Austria might be a good option.

**Jogador** · 01-16-20, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I have a friend in Sofia I talk to quite a bit.

He would like to leave. But I think a lot of people in poorer countries imagine life will change in another country.

It sounds like quite a "strange" place to live. The music and movies he likes, the way he talks about the social life there.

I'd love to visit from what he says, but think you would have to have the option to leave to like it longer term from the way it sounds to me.

Do you happen to know whether winnings from Asian Brokers are also ok (legally untaxed) in Bulgaria?

**Jogador** · 01-16-20, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by eath1

Hei, I've been researching more about countries around Europe and I found that Bulgaria accepts pinnacle players and winnings are not taxed. So far it's the country that looks closer to what I'm looking for and also, it is a really cheap country.

Has anyone here lived or lives in Bulgaria?

Sorry for posting basically the same question twice. Do you happen to know whether winnings from Asian Brokers are also ok (legally untaxed) in Bulgaria? I would be very much interested in Bulgaria as a choice for the same thing (living as a pro bettor).

**enzo** · 01-16-20, 03:56 PM

Morocco 0 tax on gambling ,cheap cost of living ,sunny beaches , nice food.... and also there is a local bookie that Will not limit you at all only one bad thing they offer lower odds compared to others

**Optional** · 01-17-20, 06:17 AM

Originally posted by Jogador

Do you happen to know whether winnings from Asian Brokers are also ok (legally untaxed) in Bulgaria?

I do not, sorry.

**NBAtanker** · 01-17-20, 03:37 PM

I’m from Ireland and there is 100+ bookmaker shops in Dublin plus I can register on 95% of sites, no taxes on betting etc

**Jogador** · 01-17-20, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by NBAtanker

I’m from Ireland and there is 100+ bookmaker shops in Dublin plus I can register on 95% of sites, no taxes on betting etc

Do you know whether betting on offshore bookies/Asian Brokers is also allowed in Ireland? Thanks.

I am basically repeating the same question on Asian Brokers etc, and sorry for that. But at least for my kind of betting, soft eurobookies and their limiting is not viable. Cheers.

**NBAtanker** · 01-17-20, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by Jogador

Do you know whether betting on offshore bookies/Asian Brokers is also allowed in Ireland? Thanks.

I am basically repeating the same question on Asian Brokers etc, and sorry for that. But at least for my kind of betting, soft eurobookies and their limiting is not viable. Cheers.

Yes you can and why Asian Brokers ? I thought that was only for bookmakers that don’t accept certain countries ? Ireland is accepted at all the top books worldwide like All offshore all Uk Betfair pinnacle all Asian books

Maybe I have Asian broker wrong ?

**Jogador** · 01-17-20, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by NBAtanker

Yes you can and why Asian Brokers ? I thought that was only for bookmakers that don’t accept certain countries ? Ireland is accepted at all the top books worldwide like All offshore all Uk Betfair pinnacle all Asian books

Maybe I have Asian broker wrong ?

Because through Asian Brokers you avoid account limiting. Unless Bet365 isn't limitiing players in Ireland. In that case I should book a ticket.

**NBAtanker** · 01-17-20, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by Jogador

Because through Asian Brokers you avoid account limiting. Unless Bet365 isn't limitiing players in Ireland. In that case I should book a ticket.

Alright now I get you and yeah I don’t bet on bet365 anyway I didn’t know why people use brokers anyway yeah bet365 limit everyone eventually you might get more in UK/Ireland but it’s mostly the same

**hehfest** · 01-17-20, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by BetJesus

I don’t much care for your attitude, boy. Here in the greatest country God ever created, we know that the country with the most stupid white people is Europe, followed by France.

Don’t be disputing that.

Edit:
This was for that American hating SoB above.

I didn't know Europe was a country followed by France. LMAO

**hehfest** · 01-17-20, 11:39 PM

Nigeria. Okerish's buddy will take all bets. Also, I think they have satellite going to one of the huts and a few villagers accept bets but their only way to pay out is HIV infected sex with one of the ladies. If you make your way to "the island" there, Okerish's buddy has a few of his pimp underlords that will take bets there if he's back in the states.

**Brooklyn Dick** · 01-18-20, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by moojoo

You can rebet at Pinnacle,so your theory dont stand.

Yeah you can rebet, but at a different price that is not very attractive...................

**PittsburghPlayer** · 01-18-20, 08:57 AM

great (th)read

**byronbb** · 01-18-20, 12:43 PM

Pinny just got a license in sweden https://twitter.com/Pinnacle/status/1218507066932973568

**Joey Zaza** · 01-20-20, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by lonnie55

Austria was pretty liberal and it's one of the few countries where sports betting is not considered as gambling but as a skill game. But in the meantime online betting has been prohibited in some states within Austria as far as I know, IDK really. It's certainly not tax free when you do it as a profession but at least it would be 100% clean, no grey zone, no "let's hope they don't catch me" or whatsoever. Vienna is a pretty city.

Ionnie, are you certain of this: "It's certainly not tax free when you do it as a profession"? Thanks